My issues with Valve refusing any support for legacy operating systems.
To people just reading the title of the post and making broad assumptions, hear me out before you say something entirely in bad faith and braindead in the comments in per-typical Steam forum user fashion:

In one hand, I don't get why people are trying to run more recent games on Windows 7. It's stupid to be using Windows 7 for modern games when modern GPUs don't even support W7 anymore, and the last Radeon cards to officially support it was the 6900XT. You can't even use USB devices on more recent motherboards without modified installer images for W7, and even then stuff like Ethernet will require a older USB ethernet adapter to function.

For modern games though, your only real options are Windows 11 or Linux (Which while having some quirks is almost in a state where it's easier to use than W11), but it's absolutely crazy how predatory companies have been being regarding digital stuff. Before any of the LimitedRunGames and PheonixResale fanboys virtue signal about physical copies while coping over the fact that they threw their money into a void buying a GameCube era game and Nintendo doesn't see any of that money still, this is not about you, back off.

But it's crazy how Microsoft can prevent people from downloading older versions of games they legally bought on the Xbox 360 (I.E: Skullgirls), Sony can pull purchases of movies that people already bought, and Nintendo does what they do about the eShop, companies can completely alter game content post-launch (I.E: Superhot VR) with absolutely zero way to keep on your current copy without either using SteamCMD or resorting to piracy. Valve completely disabled the option to disable game updates. Valve doing this stuff too and outright endorsing game publishers and developers to do this crap too paints a very bad picture and is terrible optics as they are generally considered one of the more pro-consumer of the bunch. People bring up consoles discontinuing online services as a bad thing, but excuse Valve locking people out of their games?

I personally wish Valve would have a lite Steam client with the Chromium stuff stripped out that could run on legacy operating systems, simply for older games that don't work right under modern Windows or even Proton. I'm sure that most people on those kinds of setups would use a mobile device or something to buy Steam games from instead of an insecure operating system. There's plenty of places and hardware that can't run modern versions of Windows, even if the hardware itself is fine enough for playing old games. Hell, even having a webpage to grab DRM free versions of older games past a certain date would be nice, as Valve themselves tried to say that if Steam ever went down that users would still have a way to download their games. These same game publishers would be pissed either way. So what's the excuse?

Having to consult the PCGaming Wiki for older games to fix general issues, is such a pain in the ass for older games sometimes, and I've been working to put together a GPU passthrough VirtIO VMs running Windows 98 SE and XP with a GeForce 6 series GPU and a Sound Blaster card from that era for that reason. The Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver is something that doesn't really work right without tweaks for modern operating systems that is still sold as-is on Steam. Battlefield 2 has strange compatibility issues with Proton if you want working spatial audio. Valve's own games have completely busted spatial audio on modern builds and operating systems. Windows Compatibility Mode is far from perfect, even if software compatibility on Windows goes pretty far into the past (setting aside 16-bit applications). Plenty of older games don't have the liberty of official patches to fix issues.

Be better than this Valve. Your selective quality control almost always targeting anime games that still got ESRB ratings just fine (cope australians and terminally online twitter/reddit marxists), and your lack of quality control on anything else (Like allowing constantly busted PC ports or scams like The Day Before) on your store is bad enough.
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Heraclius Caesar eredeti hozzászólása:
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My issues with Valve refusing any support for legacy operating systems...

Yet another Windows 7 clinger making yet another legacy client for Windows 7 rant thread.

Valve doesn't care what your issues are here man. They're the decision maker here, not you or any other Windows 7 clinger. They have decided they don't want to support or deal with Windows 7 anymore, and they're not obligated to. They didn't make Windows 7. The company that did make it dropped support for it almost 4 years ago.

No one ever promised you Windows 7 dudes that it would last forever and be supported forever, even by companies that didn't make the thing. It's incredible that you all seem to act like someone did make you that promise at some point.

You've had and still have plenty of time to transition to a more recent version of Windows or Linux, or get a Steam Deck. It's just an operating system buddy you'll be alright.
I’m not using Windows 7, dumbbell. Also, I never said that, stop editing my quotes, Windows 11 shill.
KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
Windows 11 shill.
Woops... Insulting the other side: -10 points. Also Windows 7 is no longer supported by their own devs. Do of that what you will... It's an outdated OS, abandoned by its creators.
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KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
Windows 11 shill.
Woops... Insulting the other side: -10 points. Also Windows 7 is no longer supported by their own devs. Do of that what you will... It's an outdated OS, abandoned by its creators.
Apparently having basic pattern recognition and recognizing someone’s talking points as typical Steam forum user shill trite is a bad thing?

Were enough people dunking on you for the lolicon badge on your Steam profile where you internalized pointing out the characteristics of someone’s ideology as a personal attack?

Or is this just a jester farmer judging by your 250+ jester awards?
Legutóbb szerkesztette: KingKrouch; 2023. dec. 12., 18:02
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C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:
2003


https://web.archive.org/web/20031217111022/http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=subscriber_agreement

"You understand that Steam may update, create new versions or otherwise enhance the Steam Software and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Steam Software may change over time."


2023

For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Valve may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Content and Services and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Content and Services may change over time.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

It hasn't changed in 20 years. I've gone through four or five operating systems, since joining Steam in 2003. People need to start reading what they are agreeing to, instead of just clicking the box and creating their account.


Those requirements that change, include operating systems.
Doesn’t mean that the license agreement is automatically good because it’s in the fine print.

This would be like excusing Opera GX being CCP spyware because it has some arbitrary cause in their license ageement.

The old Windows XP/Vista builds of Steam were working fine past their expiration date up until 2021. They could support older stuff by having a separate build of the client with the CEF stuff removed if they wanted, but the issue would be maintaining it.

You can’t even get SteamCMD working anymore despite it not having the Chromium stuff.
Doing so would also leave security holes which they are not going to allow.

We've been over and over and over this. Upgrade your OS.

Windows 7 is not the end all and be all of operating systems.

I've upgraded many times in order to play my games, you can to.

What's more important to you? Staying on an old, unsupported, insecure OS or playing your games.

None of these threads is going to get valve to change their minds.
Also if you're not using Windows 7, then I failed to see the point of this thread.
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Seraphita eredeti hozzászólása:
Woops... Insulting the other side: -10 points. Also Windows 7 is no longer supported by their own devs. Do of that what you will... It's an outdated OS, abandoned by its creators.
Apparently having basic pattern recognition and recognizing someone’s talking points as typical Steam forum user shill trite is a bad thing?

Were enough people dunking on you for the lolicon badge on your Steam profile where you internalized pointing out the characteristics of someone’s ideology as a personal attack?

Or is this just a jester farmer judging by your 250+ jester awards?
Heh... The ad hominem time. I was waiting for that one but I bet you don't know the context of that, do you? This is why you blindly attack the other person without caring about the details of what you're even attacking. I'm sorry, is there an issue with the loli badge?

What else, these jesters were happily given by trolls who I taunted to give me more when they were not happy about replies made to them. I'll give you an advice... If you don't know a thing, don't speak as if you know the thing in order to belittle the person like a bully.

Just look at your post, you're out there doing nothing but insulting someone else to feel better about yourself. If you have to insult the other side to win the "argument", you've already lost the argument. At least you could do a minimum effort and be civilised.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Seraphita; 2023. dec. 12., 18:13
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Heraclius Caesar eredeti hozzászólása:

Yet another Windows 7 clinger making yet another legacy client for Windows 7 rant thread.

Valve doesn't care what your issues are here man. They're the decision maker here, not you or any other Windows 7 clinger. They have decided they don't want to support or deal with Windows 7 anymore, and they're not obligated to. They didn't make Windows 7. The company that did make it dropped support for it almost 4 years ago.

No one ever promised you Windows 7 dudes that it would last forever and be supported forever, even by companies that didn't make the thing. It's incredible that you all seem to act like someone did make you that promise at some point.

You've had and still have plenty of time to transition to a more recent version of Windows or Linux, or get a Steam Deck. It's just an operating system buddy you'll be alright.
I’m not using Windows 7, dumbbell. Also, I never said that, stop editing my quotes, Windows 11 shill.

Lol so you made a complaint spam thread to amplify on how you "wish" for a Steam legacy client for Windows 7 when you don't even use Windows 7? And you think you're in a position to call me dumb? Oof.

Also, you did say that, it's right there in your title for this thread. I didn't edit anything. Wow.

How am I a Windows 11 shill when I never even mentioned Windows 11? I said:
Heraclius Caesar eredeti hozzászólása:
You've had and still have plenty of time to transition to a more recent version of Windows or Linux, or get a Steam Deck.
And your response was to call me a Windows 11 shill. It's almost as if you decided to ignore the other options I mentioned just so you could throw that incredibly lame and weak (and erroneous) little insult at me.

Time to grow up buddy. Acting like an irrational child isn't going to get you anywhere.
KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
I’m aware that most could switch from Win7 to Linux, assuming they don’t use an NVIDIA card.

You can use Linux with NVIDIA GPUs. I hear Pop OS is great for that.

KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
The “ramblings” are simply stuff that ties into what I was talking about, like digital services and how inconsistent Valve is. If we can’t trust them with consistency, can we really trust them with keeping game downloads available for people who bought them previously.

So you're saying the problem is that Valve dropping support for Windows 7 implies they will at some point arbitrarily decide some older games are unworthy of any kind of support when they have dwindling amounts of players?

If so, what kind of long-term services are you expecting from Valve? Be more specific.

KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
But I don’t expect a Half-Life Alyx Russel avatar to go into this with an unbiased perspective.

There's nothing wrong with showing proper appreciation for a great game.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: temps; 2023. dec. 12., 18:30
C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:
What's more important to you? Staying on an old, unsupported, insecure OS or playing your games.

None of these threads is going to get valve to change their minds.
You're dodging the point that I said when it came to older games that don't run fine on modern operating systems. Play The Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, Fallout 3/New Vegas, any of the Grand Theft Auto games before 5, or Final Fantasy 7 on a modern PC that isn't the Steam Deck, and without consulting the PCGaming Wiki.

How do you think Linux does things through open source software? You can run newer versions of Firefox and Chrome that support HTTPS on Windows XP using OneCoreAPI. The issue is that they're explicitly using Chromium for their web interface stuff and for most of their user interface now, as opposed to before the library update where their library was using VGUI. And as a result, custom skins are dead too without external programs running constantly in the background.

Also, if I have an older operating system in a virtual machine, it's not going to violate my local network. Most JavaScript on the modern internet doesn't even work in the latest officially supported versions of these old browsers on XP anymore.

Seraphita eredeti hozzászólása:
Just look at your post, you're out there doing nothing but insulting someone else to feel better about yourself. If you have to insult the other side to win the "argument", you've already lost the argument. At least you could do a minimum effort and be civilised.
Respect is earned, not given. Don't be a jackass, and you won't have people putting you under scrutiny. Your outwardly response that was literally done like five seconds after I called the guy a shill goes to show that you're either looking for awards or your a bot.

C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:
Also if you're not using Windows 7, then I failed to see the point of this thread.
I don't use Windows 7. However, I do find it useful to have those in a virtual machine with devices passed through it for old software that won't run decently on compatibility layers.

If that's your takeaway than you haven't read it beyond a quick glance or assumptions. I'm not saying that Windows 7 users should stay on there, there's valid reasons not to, just that for people who can't switch, or for software that can't run on new operating systems and hardware with no good solution because the developers don't want to patch it and Valve's extremely free reign when it comes to quality control (and even if they were, expecting a developer to update a build of the game years later is a bit unrealistic), there really isn't that much of a choice.

Steam can continue to progress, just that I'm shocked that they haven't had an alternative client that could still be used in some sort of way for basic support like just downloading and launching games. You wouldn't want to do everyday tasks on something like that for the security implications, but something just for playing games is fine. I don't see anyone realistically connecting a Windows 98 PC to the internet beyond just checking if it works and for transferring files via FTP or something. GOG lets you download the games from a web browser and install them on an old PC just fine. There's likewise plenty of people that don't care about all of the extra features that Steam has, and that argue that the client is way too bloated for it's own good. The Small Mode on Steam still exists after all these years.

Heroic Games Launcher is an alternate launcher for Epic Games and are considered separate projects with different codebases, and you'd think that with the money that Valve has, that they would consider having an alternate Steam Lite of sorts to capitalize on both legacy users and minimalists, or something that just turns on when it realizes it's on a system that's out of support. Steam still runs fine on a Debian system from ages ago back when Steam was just experimenting with Steam Machines, and this was right around when Windows 8 was a thing, and that's being discontinued alongside W7 as well. It could be done, but just like game publishers shutting down old game servers for games, Valve wants people to move onto the shiny next thing regardless of if it's gonna impact them or not, unless it's Wayland where despite Valve funding KDE's development of it, they haven't fixed Steam on it yet.
KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
Respect is earned, not given. Don't be a jackass, and you won't have people putting you under scrutiny. Your outwardly response that was literally done like five seconds after I called the guy a shill goes to show that you're either looking for awards or your a bot.
Oooh, okay. So you should follow your own advice, then. Like, are you projecting? You're so brainwashed by social media that you think a post calling you out on your insult is "farming for karma" or a bot? Jeez... So having manners online must be earned? Nice...

Look, you goofed 3 times in the same post by throwing ad hominem in a desperate manner. I'm simply calling you out on it. Being under scrutiny is fine but what YOU did was cherrypick things that you don't understand and attack the user based on it. And that's funny.

If jesters really meant ANYTHING at all, then maybe you'd have something. Let me put that in perspective. I have enough points to give you 300 jesters right now by going through your history. Surely it would make you look like a jester farmer then. It's your logic...

P.S.: You have received 81 jesters. SMH, must be an award farmer or a bot. /s (And you've also given 125 so I don't think you have any rooms to speak. Well, I'm just saying...)
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Seraphita; 2023. dec. 12., 18:56
temps eredeti hozzászólása:
You can use Linux with NVIDIA GPUs. I hear Pop OS is great for that.
NVIDIA was my biggest reason for constantly switching back to Windows. Ever since I ditched my 1060 and later 3070, haven't had issues with Linux nearly as much.

Now on the topic of older cards, anything that only supports D3D9/D3D10/D3D11 is effectively off the table, because those don't support Vulkan natively, and even if they did, newer versions of DXVK (the translation layer responsible for having DirectX games running on Proton) straight up refuse to work on 600/700 series NVIDIA cards, and that's before getting to anything before, or if Maxwell driver support is going to be phased out quickly. The last GPUs to support CRTs natively is the 900 series, and those are Maxwell cards. Granted, you could use an active converter for that, but these cards are still fairly recent compared to say how old Windows 7 is. For those, you'd effectively have to hack together a recent version of Proton with the old DXVK DLLs to keep the new improvements to WINE (another component of Proton) while still retaining compatibility. A simple software change like moving to Linux might not be possible for some.

temps eredeti hozzászólása:
So you're saying the problem is that Valve dropping support for Windows 7 implies they will at some point arbitrarily decide some older games are unworthy of any kind of support when they have dwindling amounts of players?

If so, what kind of long-term services are you expecting from Valve? Be more specific.
Some sort of basic maintenance mode kind of thing, or simply a way to get offline backups of your legally acquired older games from a web browser. Valve has to fulfill their guarantee of making sure your games are available if they ever go belly up anyways.

temps eredeti hozzászólása:
There's nothing wrong with showing proper appreciation for a great game.
Not saying that the game is bad, just that I wasn't expecting a rational discussion with someone with a Valve game avatar, much in the same way you'd have a bad time talking to a Disney adult about how Disneyworld is a ripoff.
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C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:
What's more important to you? Staying on an old, unsupported, insecure OS or playing your games.

None of these threads is going to get valve to change their minds.
You're dodging the point that I said when it came to older games that don't run fine on modern operating systems. Play The Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, Fallout 3/New Vegas, any of the Grand Theft Auto games before 5, or Final Fantasy 7 on a modern PC that isn't the Steam Deck, and without consulting the PCGaming Wiki.

How do you think Linux does things through open source software? You can run newer versions of Firefox and Chrome that support HTTPS on Windows XP using OneCoreAPI. The issue is that they're explicitly using Chromium for their web interface stuff and for most of their user interface now, as opposed to before the library update where their library was using VGUI. And as a result, custom skins are dead too without external programs running constantly in the background.

Also, if I have an older operating system in a virtual machine, it's not going to violate my local network. Most JavaScript on the modern internet doesn't even work in the latest officially supported versions of these old browsers on XP anymore.

Seraphita eredeti hozzászólása:
Just look at your post, you're out there doing nothing but insulting someone else to feel better about yourself. If you have to insult the other side to win the "argument", you've already lost the argument. At least you could do a minimum effort and be civilised.
Respect is earned, not given. Don't be a jackass, and you won't have people putting you under scrutiny. Your outwardly response that was literally done like five seconds after I called the guy a shill goes to show that you're either looking for awards or your a bot.

C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:
Also if you're not using Windows 7, then I failed to see the point of this thread.
I don't use Windows 7. However, I do find it useful to have those in a virtual machine with devices passed through it for old software that won't run decently on compatibility layers.

If that's your takeaway than you haven't read it beyond a quick glance or assumptions. I'm not saying that Windows 7 users should stay on there, there's valid reasons not to, just that for people who can't switch, or for software that can't run on new operating systems and hardware with no good solution because the developers don't want to patch it and Valve's extremely free reign when it comes to quality control (and even if they were, expecting a developer to update a build of the game years later is a bit unrealistic), there really isn't that much of a choice.

Steam can continue to progress, just that I'm shocked that they haven't had an alternative client that could still be used in some sort of way for basic support like just downloading and launching games. You wouldn't want to do everyday tasks on something like that for the security implications, but something just for playing games is fine. I don't see anyone realistically connecting a Windows 98 PC to the internet beyond just checking if it works and for transferring files via FTP or something. GOG lets you download the games from a web browser and install them on an old PC just fine. There's likewise plenty of people that don't care about all of the extra features that Steam has, and that argue that the client is way too bloated for it's own good. The Small Mode on Steam still exists after all these years.

Heroic Games Launcher is an alternate launcher for Epic Games and are considered separate projects with different codebases, and you'd think that with the money that Valve has, that they would consider having an alternate Steam Lite of sorts to capitalize on both legacy users and minimalists, or something that just turns on when it realizes it's on a system that's out of support. Steam still runs fine on a Debian system from ages ago back when Steam was just experimenting with Steam Machines, and this was right around when Windows 8 was a thing, and that's being discontinued alongside W7 as well. It could be done, but just like game publishers shutting down old game servers for games, Valve wants people to move onto the shiny next thing regardless of if it's gonna impact them or not, unless it's Wayland where despite Valve funding KDE's development of it, they haven't fixed Steam on it yet.
If you want to keep using Windows 7 to play old games on discs, do so. However, don't expect companies to release legacy launchers just because you use an old OS. For one, legacy launchers would cost money. Two, it would take constant maintenance to keep it compatible with the back end of the official launcher. That cost money.

So it's always funny to me that people want all this legacy support, yeah don't understand that it cost money and if they did implement it, that cost would be passed on to their consumers.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: C²C^Guyver |NZB|; 2023. dec. 12., 19:07
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Not saying that the game is bad, just that I wasn't expecting a rational discussion with someone with a Valve game avatar, much in the same way you'd have a bad time talking to a Disney adult about how Disneyworld is a ripoff.
Holy crap... You're not even hiding your bias either... Automatic discrimination based on nothing but your own bias. So an avatar that you don't like = "Can't have a rational discussion with them". If they just like the character, you don't care. "They must be irrational".

Like, you do realise that you're chatting on STEAM forums, with plenty of STEAM users, right? If you expect people to hate on valve, I dunno. Find a steam hate website or something. Your bias is pretty ridiculous. Attacking the person instead of the argument is pretty bad.

And in case you don't get it, it doesn't mean that people (with valve game pfp) are valve white knights. You're heading into the forum with a huge bias showing in neon sign.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: Seraphita; 2023. dec. 12., 19:06
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KingKrouch eredeti hozzászólása:
I’m not using Windows 7, dumbbell. Also, I never said that, stop editing my quotes, Windows 11 shill.

Lol so you made a complaint spam thread to amplify on how you "wish" for a Steam legacy client for Windows 7 when you don't even use Windows 7? And you think you're in a position to call me dumb? Oof.

Also, you did say that, it's right there in your title for this thread. I didn't edit anything. Wow.
I noted "My Issue". Topics can be more nuanced, and if you're reading just the title of it and making bold assumptions about what it says, and making a giant straw man in your head to get mad at, then that says more about you than anything. Just because I might not find a use from something doesn't mean I can't be a consumer advocate for said thing either. Just because I have a high-end system doesn't mean I can't advocate for lower end users to have options in a game, because that benefits everyone.

Heraclius Caesar eredeti hozzászólása:
How am I a Windows 11 shill when I never even mentioned Windows 11? I said:
Heraclius Caesar eredeti hozzászólása:
You've had and still have plenty of time to transition to a more recent version of Windows or Linux, or get a Steam Deck.
And your response was to call me a Windows 11 shill. It's almost as if you decided to ignore the other options I mentioned just so you could throw that incredibly lame and weak (and erroneous) little insult at me.

Time to grow up buddy. Acting like an irrational child isn't going to get you anywhere.
Windows 10 is in maintenance mode and going to be discontinued soon, and Microsoft has actively made Windows 11 worse in plenty of places. So what will the excuse be then, when Windows 11 is worse outside of better HDR support, and when Microsoft won't support anything without TPM support and Bitlocker always on (With your decryption keys on their server)?

Also, it's loaded with telemetry and borderline spyware unless you either use a modified installer (Which very well could have injected spyware in it), or use enough snake oil registry + group policy tweaks from Windows 10 "Optimization" videos on YouTube to effectively brick your entire system. I'm not necessarily saying your statement is wrong, just that Microsoft shills as of late will defend literally anything at this point, whether that's down to stuff like this, or Xbox simply having a crap user interface and crappy controllers, because they're too high on the Game Pass and/or PC Master Race copium to be able to tell that something has issues.

On NVIDIA, Windows is sadly your only choice. Otherwise, Linux is fine, but there's still plenty of places where it's lacking. The Steam Deck's desktop mode is probably slower than any Windows 7 era PC I've ever used, because they are only using the physical cores and not the extra threads.

I don't want to argue semantics. You made a bold assumption based on the title alone, and you were the one acting like a child about it. I gave you a taste of your own medicine. If you acted like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as an adult, and you got slapped in the face as a response, that would be fair play, as you reap what you sow. Quit with the "bigger person" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when you just want to get away scott free with being a facetious tool.
Legutóbb szerkesztette: KingKrouch; 2023. dec. 12., 19:16
C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:
If you want to keep using Windows 7 to play old games on discs, do so. However, don't expect companies to release legacy launchers just because you use an old OS. For one, legacy launchers would cost money. Two, it would take constant maintenance to keep it compatible with the back end of the official launcher. That cost money.

So it's always funny to me that people want all this legacy support, yeah don't understand that it cost money and if they did implement it, that cost would be passed on to their consumers.
Then don't be mad and say you'll resort to piracy when Nintendo closes down their shop channel or eShop servers. Technically, they're in the legal right to do so, but honestly, for someone like Valve to have a web interface as an option for legacy systems like what GOG has for downloading older games would be good enough. Simply allow it for operating systems that are listed in the system requirements of a game to work around the similar issue some had with the Steam Deck. Technically their interface is mostly using Chromium anyways, and projects like SteamDB exist for tracking depots and their files. Valve could have a system like that in place as a compromise without needing a separate client or worrying about security issues outside of maybe figuring out DRM. That's the other solution.

Digital games already have an issue with preservation outside of piracy, and we don't really need more fuel for the fire. Xbox is shutting down the 360 marketplace soon despite their "efforts" at backwards compatibility. We need to hold companies accountable, especially towards an all-digital future. Sony was going to shut down PSN for PS3 and Vita, but after backlash they kept it up, with PSP being the exception (Which is a shame as some games had DLC that you can't get anymore and can't find archived online).
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