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Were enough people dunking on you for the lolicon badge on your Steam profile where you internalized pointing out the characteristics of someone’s ideology as a personal attack?
Or is this just a jester farmer judging by your 250+ jester awards?
We've been over and over and over this. Upgrade your OS.
Windows 7 is not the end all and be all of operating systems.
I've upgraded many times in order to play my games, you can to.
What's more important to you? Staying on an old, unsupported, insecure OS or playing your games.
None of these threads is going to get valve to change their minds.
What else, these jesters were happily given by trolls who I taunted to give me more when they were not happy about replies made to them. I'll give you an advice... If you don't know a thing, don't speak as if you know the thing in order to belittle the person like a bully.
Just look at your post, you're out there doing nothing but insulting someone else to feel better about yourself. If you have to insult the other side to win the "argument", you've already lost the argument. At least you could do a minimum effort and be civilised.
Lol so you made a complaint spam thread to amplify on how you "wish" for a Steam legacy client for Windows 7 when you don't even use Windows 7? And you think you're in a position to call me dumb? Oof.
Also, you did say that, it's right there in your title for this thread. I didn't edit anything. Wow.
How am I a Windows 11 shill when I never even mentioned Windows 11? I said:
And your response was to call me a Windows 11 shill. It's almost as if you decided to ignore the other options I mentioned just so you could throw that incredibly lame and weak (and erroneous) little insult at me.
Time to grow up buddy. Acting like an irrational child isn't going to get you anywhere.
You can use Linux with NVIDIA GPUs. I hear Pop OS is great for that.
So you're saying the problem is that Valve dropping support for Windows 7 implies they will at some point arbitrarily decide some older games are unworthy of any kind of support when they have dwindling amounts of players?
If so, what kind of long-term services are you expecting from Valve? Be more specific.
There's nothing wrong with showing proper appreciation for a great game.
How do you think Linux does things through open source software? You can run newer versions of Firefox and Chrome that support HTTPS on Windows XP using OneCoreAPI. The issue is that they're explicitly using Chromium for their web interface stuff and for most of their user interface now, as opposed to before the library update where their library was using VGUI. And as a result, custom skins are dead too without external programs running constantly in the background.
Also, if I have an older operating system in a virtual machine, it's not going to violate my local network. Most JavaScript on the modern internet doesn't even work in the latest officially supported versions of these old browsers on XP anymore.
Respect is earned, not given. Don't be a jackass, and you won't have people putting you under scrutiny. Your outwardly response that was literally done like five seconds after I called the guy a shill goes to show that you're either looking for awards or your a bot.
I don't use Windows 7. However, I do find it useful to have those in a virtual machine with devices passed through it for old software that won't run decently on compatibility layers.
If that's your takeaway than you haven't read it beyond a quick glance or assumptions. I'm not saying that Windows 7 users should stay on there, there's valid reasons not to, just that for people who can't switch, or for software that can't run on new operating systems and hardware with no good solution because the developers don't want to patch it and Valve's extremely free reign when it comes to quality control (and even if they were, expecting a developer to update a build of the game years later is a bit unrealistic), there really isn't that much of a choice.
Steam can continue to progress, just that I'm shocked that they haven't had an alternative client that could still be used in some sort of way for basic support like just downloading and launching games. You wouldn't want to do everyday tasks on something like that for the security implications, but something just for playing games is fine. I don't see anyone realistically connecting a Windows 98 PC to the internet beyond just checking if it works and for transferring files via FTP or something. GOG lets you download the games from a web browser and install them on an old PC just fine. There's likewise plenty of people that don't care about all of the extra features that Steam has, and that argue that the client is way too bloated for it's own good. The Small Mode on Steam still exists after all these years.
Heroic Games Launcher is an alternate launcher for Epic Games and are considered separate projects with different codebases, and you'd think that with the money that Valve has, that they would consider having an alternate Steam Lite of sorts to capitalize on both legacy users and minimalists, or something that just turns on when it realizes it's on a system that's out of support. Steam still runs fine on a Debian system from ages ago back when Steam was just experimenting with Steam Machines, and this was right around when Windows 8 was a thing, and that's being discontinued alongside W7 as well. It could be done, but just like game publishers shutting down old game servers for games, Valve wants people to move onto the shiny next thing regardless of if it's gonna impact them or not, unless it's Wayland where despite Valve funding KDE's development of it, they haven't fixed Steam on it yet.
Look, you goofed 3 times in the same post by throwing ad hominem in a desperate manner. I'm simply calling you out on it. Being under scrutiny is fine but what YOU did was cherrypick things that you don't understand and attack the user based on it. And that's funny.
If jesters really meant ANYTHING at all, then maybe you'd have something. Let me put that in perspective. I have enough points to give you 300 jesters right now by going through your history. Surely it would make you look like a jester farmer then. It's your logic...
P.S.: You have received 81 jesters. SMH, must be an award farmer or a bot. /s (And you've also given 125 so I don't think you have any rooms to speak. Well, I'm just saying...)
Now on the topic of older cards, anything that only supports D3D9/D3D10/D3D11 is effectively off the table, because those don't support Vulkan natively, and even if they did, newer versions of DXVK (the translation layer responsible for having DirectX games running on Proton) straight up refuse to work on 600/700 series NVIDIA cards, and that's before getting to anything before, or if Maxwell driver support is going to be phased out quickly. The last GPUs to support CRTs natively is the 900 series, and those are Maxwell cards. Granted, you could use an active converter for that, but these cards are still fairly recent compared to say how old Windows 7 is. For those, you'd effectively have to hack together a recent version of Proton with the old DXVK DLLs to keep the new improvements to WINE (another component of Proton) while still retaining compatibility. A simple software change like moving to Linux might not be possible for some.
Some sort of basic maintenance mode kind of thing, or simply a way to get offline backups of your legally acquired older games from a web browser. Valve has to fulfill their guarantee of making sure your games are available if they ever go belly up anyways.
Not saying that the game is bad, just that I wasn't expecting a rational discussion with someone with a Valve game avatar, much in the same way you'd have a bad time talking to a Disney adult about how Disneyworld is a ripoff.
So it's always funny to me that people want all this legacy support, yeah don't understand that it cost money and if they did implement it, that cost would be passed on to their consumers.
Like, you do realise that you're chatting on STEAM forums, with plenty of STEAM users, right? If you expect people to hate on valve, I dunno. Find a steam hate website or something. Your bias is pretty ridiculous. Attacking the person instead of the argument is pretty bad.
And in case you don't get it, it doesn't mean that people (with valve game pfp) are valve white knights. You're heading into the forum with a huge bias showing in neon sign.
Windows 10 is in maintenance mode and going to be discontinued soon, and Microsoft has actively made Windows 11 worse in plenty of places. So what will the excuse be then, when Windows 11 is worse outside of better HDR support, and when Microsoft won't support anything without TPM support and Bitlocker always on (With your decryption keys on their server)?
Also, it's loaded with telemetry and borderline spyware unless you either use a modified installer (Which very well could have injected spyware in it), or use enough snake oil registry + group policy tweaks from Windows 10 "Optimization" videos on YouTube to effectively brick your entire system. I'm not necessarily saying your statement is wrong, just that Microsoft shills as of late will defend literally anything at this point, whether that's down to stuff like this, or Xbox simply having a crap user interface and crappy controllers, because they're too high on the Game Pass and/or PC Master Race copium to be able to tell that something has issues.
On NVIDIA, Windows is sadly your only choice. Otherwise, Linux is fine, but there's still plenty of places where it's lacking. The Steam Deck's desktop mode is probably slower than any Windows 7 era PC I've ever used, because they are only using the physical cores and not the extra threads.
I don't want to argue semantics. You made a bold assumption based on the title alone, and you were the one acting like a child about it. I gave you a taste of your own medicine. If you acted like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as an adult, and you got slapped in the face as a response, that would be fair play, as you reap what you sow. Quit with the "bigger person" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when you just want to get away scott free with being a facetious tool.
Digital games already have an issue with preservation outside of piracy, and we don't really need more fuel for the fire. Xbox is shutting down the 360 marketplace soon despite their "efforts" at backwards compatibility. We need to hold companies accountable, especially towards an all-digital future. Sony was going to shut down PSN for PS3 and Vita, but after backlash they kept it up, with PSP being the exception (Which is a shame as some games had DLC that you can't get anymore and can't find archived online).