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Now on the topic of stuff that isn't rated by the ESRB, but is worth mentioning anyways:
As for games that had all-ages versions that were planned to be sold on Steam independently from any patches, Meteor World Actor. This is despite games like in the Sakura series or even Grisaia getting away with far worse.
As for games that GOG carries, Full Metal Daemon Muramasa and Evenicle 2 (The first of which is still sold on Steam for some reason).
As for R18 games that only had scenes involving adults (as an extra clarification) and still got banned on Steam anyways, Crime Opera: The Butterfly Effect. There's even a Reddit thread about how the game got rejected on four different occasions, and Kotaku even reported on it. This is despite the game being way less extreme than something like Taimanin Asagi.
As you can see by having basic pattern recognition, they have a very notable history with hilariously inconsistent moderation, and it entirely depends on what jackass with a political agenda is working at Steam's moderation team that day. Keep in mind that at Valve, anyone can decide to walk up from what they're working on and choose to work on something else that day, and DOTA Underlords had writing outsourced to Sweet Baby Inc, so it's entirely possible that the inconsistent moderation is motivated in some way.
They only get that label if it's adult content. No ESRB rated games has that box on their store page.
Even Hatred, which is rated AO by the ESRB doesn't have the warning box under it.
That's different than "This game is marked as containing 'Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content.' You are seeing this game because you have set your preferences to allow this content."
That is a flawed argument that would be solved simply by actually browsing and comparing and contrasting games on Steam. lol.
https://web.archive.org/web/20031217111022/http://www.steampowered.com/index.php?area=subscriber_agreement
"You understand that Steam may update, create new versions or otherwise enhance the Steam Software and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Steam Software may change over time."
2023
For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Valve may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Content and Services and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Content and Services may change over time.
https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/
It hasn't changed in 20 years. I've gone through four or five operating systems, since joining Steam in 2003. People need to start reading what they are agreeing to, instead of just clicking the box and creating their account.
Those requirements that change, include operating systems.
This would be like excusing Opera GX being CCP spyware because it has some arbitrary cause in their license ageement.
The old Windows XP/Vista builds of Steam were working fine past their expiration date up until 2021. They could support older stuff by having a separate build of the client with the CEF stuff removed if they wanted, but the issue would be maintaining it.
You can’t even get SteamCMD working anymore despite it not having the Chromium stuff.
I don't see a problem with Valve dropping Windows 7 support. It really makes a lot more sense to just tell those people to either go to Ubuntu/Mint/PopOS or Windows 10/11 so Valve doesn't waste money catering to some outdated Windows OS with a dwindling user population.
What else are people going to ask for? More Valve funding to keep Windows 95 working?
Just go to Ubuntu, Pop OS, or Linux Mint if you don't like Windows 10/11 for some reason. Those 3 Linux operating systems are plenty user-friendly for basic gaming.
My issue is with them thinking everything else should continue supporting it as if nothing has changed and other OSes haven't come out since. It is a business decision by Steam and others ... one that like those people who dislike Denuvo would likely be the first on board to change if they were wearing those very same business shoes.
The world doesn't revolve around Windows 7 or any other OS for that matter. Time for them to grow up and realize they are caught up in the changing times.
Piracy is a service problem.
A legacy client of sorts with most of the features requiring advanced features stripped out, or a way of actually downloading said legally bought games that only work on older software/hardware is the real issue here. The reason Valve cut off support for Win7 or even XP was because of CEF deprecating support, but most of the people buying older games on GOG for example aren’t expecting Steam’s features.
SteamCMD could work IF Valve didn’t intentionally go out of their way to bork the updating process.
I’m using a rolling release build of Fedora Linux on my main system, and I’m not denying that people with older PCs would have to update their software and upgrade their hardware to play the new stuff. I’m aware that most could switch from Win7 to Linux, assuming they don’t use an NVIDIA card. Not what I’m addressing here.
The “ramblings” are simply stuff that ties into what I was talking about, like digital services and how inconsistent Valve is. If we can’t trust them with consistency, can we really trust them with keeping game downloads available for people who bought them previously.
But I don’t expect a Half-Life Alyx Russel avatar to go into this with an unbiased perspective.
I’m not making the argument that game developers should keep supporting older operating systems, and that’s a bad faith argument. Just that Valve’s approach here is resulting in plenty of older games being unplayable on new operating systems and hardware without loads of mods/workarounds (didn’t Valve say it’s against Steam TOS to ship a game without an executable?) is going to result in a mess. Windows Compatibility Mode and Proton aren’t perfect, and I’d argue that plenty of modern ports are so jank that they likely won’t work properly either.
This is not like the anti-Wayland rhetoric in the Linux community from people too hooked on outdated X11. But that’s apples to oranges, and if that’s the argument you’re making, according to that logic, Valve hasn’t been doing a good job at ensuring that Steam works fine on something new like Wayland either. Steam crashes on Wayland unless you boot it from the terminal using -vgui, AND DPI scaling is busted on it still. lol.
Yet another Windows 7 clinger making yet another legacy client for Windows 7 rant thread.
Valve doesn't care what your issues are here man. They're the decision maker here, not you or any other Windows 7 clinger. They have decided they don't want to support or deal with Windows 7 anymore, and they're not obligated to. They didn't make Windows 7. The company that did make it dropped support for it almost 4 years ago.
No one ever promised you Windows 7 dudes that it would last forever and be supported forever, even by companies that didn't make the thing. It's incredible that you all seem to act like someone did make you that promise at some point.
You've had and still have plenty of time to transition to a more recent version of Windows or Linux, or get a Steam Deck. It's just an operating system buddy you'll be alright.