Steam Is Responsible For The Day Before

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

The dev is closing a few days after this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EA system steam allows. I guess if you followed the game, there were issues. Steam pulled it at one point. What does Valve/Steam do? Still let this dumbass dev sell a product, and make some money off it with them before they run.

Blaming the customer is the drug dealer mindset. Taking advantage of people with mental illness, addiction, trauma, and recognizing this is the population you're preying on.

EA doesn't allow for proper information when making a decision to purchase. If a user is responsible for buying The Day Before, because it looked bad from the start, then why would Steam sell it? They should know it was bad too, right? Does the consumer have to be more educated than steam?

A drug dealer knows he's selling you heroine and what it's going to do to you. He knows it doesn't help you, he is okay leading you down a bad path to worsen yourself for his gain.

Early Access is deliberately vague in terms, and is totally there to benefit fake games and falsely represented games, while giving them an out. The developer chooses what to show the customer, the developer controls the comments and narrative on the forums that could warn of a bad product. It is simply not a market that encourages an educated customer, but it is to take advantage of an optimistic and hopeful customer.

By buying into Early Access, the intention is to make the dream come alive, to support an idea or a dev you like. Yet, the dev or steam, have no obligation in that. It winds up being the customers dream, and their dream alone. The customer is expected to be altruistic to their project, to buy in and support it! All while there's no delivery. A product can be Early Access for Years? What? Oh it's because its vague tos protects the swindlers.

These devs are the drug dealers, but steam is the trap house. They know what's happening in their house, they just look the other way. Valve allows early access, they allow this climate, this is their service, this is their product.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 NoobOrFeed：

Why do you skip out identy?
Last Time i checked, they scammed 1.6 millions of Backers through Kickstarter and the Devs have multiple lawsuits pending.

Game is still available for purchase on Steam. And yes, its their responsibility in the end. Should be Made clear by now

Steam isn't responsible for what happens on Kickstarter.

Hm, gosh it doesn't seem Valve is liable, for anything. I better check the tos and make sure i'm not liable to bail out Mr Newell if he tries to rob a bank in a Santa outfit.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

Steam isn't responsible for what happens on Kickstarter.

Hm, gosh it doesn't seem Valve is liable, for anything. I better check the tos and make sure i'm not liable to bail out Mr Newell if he tries to rob a bank in a Santa outfit.

Why would Steam be responsible for what happens on a completely separate platform?

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Hm, gosh it doesn't seem Valve is liable, for anything. I better check the tos and make sure i'm not liable to bail out Mr Newell if he tries to rob a bank in a Santa outfit.

Why would Steam be responsible for what happens on a completely separate platform?

Wasn't the game "Burning Lands" another game under the scrutiny folks were backing it, only for all the Devs to quit, and nothing from the owner to pull it? Sincere question.

Anyhow, that should maybe be pulled from the "wishlist".

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

Why would Steam be responsible for what happens on a completely separate platform?

Wasn't the game "Burning Lands" another game under the scrutiny folks were backing it, only for all the Devs to quit, and nothing from the owner to pull it? Sincere question.

No idea, but if true thats not illegal. Not all products succeed and a game no longer being developed isn't illegal. People are allowed to buy games that are not currently being developed if they wish.

Pulling a game is rare and not a normal occurrence.

I'd suggest consulting with an officer of the law as you don't seem to have a grasp on what the laws are.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

Why would Steam be responsible for what happens on a completely separate platform?

Wasn't the game "Burning Lands" another game under the scrutiny folks were backing it, only for all the Devs to quit, and nothing from the owner to pull it? Sincere question.

Burning Lands still exist, save its made by a group of 20 people, which is a situation more akin to No Mans Sky, expectations are high but its development is staggered by the small team, its mostly called Burning Lands Vietnam on their website now btw if you google it!

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

Why would Steam be responsible for what happens on a completely separate platform?

Wasn't the game "Burning Lands" another game under the scrutiny folks were backing it, only for all the Devs to quit, and nothing from the owner to pull it? Sincere question.

Anyhow, that should maybe be pulled from the "wishlist".

You didn't answer my question.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 brian9824：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Wasn't the game "Burning Lands" another game under the scrutiny folks were backing it, only for all the Devs to quit, and nothing from the owner to pull it? Sincere question.

No idea, but if true thats not illegal. Not all products succeed and a game no longer being developed isn't illegal. People are allowed to buy games that are not currently being developed if they wish.

Pulling a game is rare and not a normal occurrence.

I'd suggest consulting with an officer of the law as you don't seem to have a grasp on what the laws are.

I was asking a sincere question, but apparently enough you're talking to the right person in that regard lol. At least my former career now retired.

And so it seems, unless you hold those bonafides, you may want to hold your tongue on some of these matters, including this one, being you don't know what the word "sincere" even means.

I mean we did have to pass a reading comprehension exam, even w/o college back in those days lol.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 SlowMango：

Steam isn't responsible for what happens on Kickstarter.

Hm, gosh it doesn't seem Valve is liable, for anything. I better check the tos and make sure i'm not liable to bail out Mr Newell if he tries to rob a bank in a Santa outfit.

Nah dude steam had no responsibility to any customer. They don't even operate this platform.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

Yall forgetting Gettysburg armored Warfare lol

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 brian9824：

No idea, but if true thats not illegal. Not all products succeed and a game no longer being developed isn't illegal. People are allowed to buy games that are not currently being developed if they wish.

Pulling a game is rare and not a normal occurrence.

I'd suggest consulting with an officer of the law as you don't seem to have a grasp on what the laws are.

I was asking a sincere question, but apparently enough you're talking to the right person in that regard lol. At least my former career now retired.

And so it seems, unless you hold those bonafides, you may want to hold your tongue on some of these matters, including this one, being you don't know what the word "sincere" even means.

If that's your background, then you should know that stopping development of a game after some time isn't an illegal act.

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 brian9824：

No idea, but if true thats not illegal. Not all products succeed and a game no longer being developed isn't illegal. People are allowed to buy games that are not currently being developed if they wish.

Pulling a game is rare and not a normal occurrence.

I'd suggest consulting with an officer of the law as you don't seem to have a grasp on what the laws are.

I was asking a sincere question, but apparently enough you're talking to the right person in that regard lol. At least my former career now retired.

And so it seems, unless you hold those bonafides, you may want to hold your tongue on some of these matters, including this one, being you don't know what the word "sincere" even means.

Fortunately your talking to someone well versed in this stuff who is able to explain that your understanding of it is deeply flawed. Failing to finish a game isn't a crime. Products and ventures fail every day and its a risk you take.

Every single game you buy on steam can be discontinued at any time whether its EA or not. Hence why you should never buy anything in the hopes that one day it will be something different.

What happened with The Day Before is different, but even then it still might not even be illegal, as stupidity in of itself isn't a crime. Its definitely suspect, and if it wasn't for the fact that every consumer who wants a refund can get one thanks to Steam then there would be inquiries into lawsuits.

As is no one on steam would really have the standing to sue them.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

Hm, gosh it doesn't seem Valve is liable, for anything. I better check the tos and make sure i'm not liable to bail out Mr Newell if he tries to rob a bank in a Santa outfit.

Nah dude steam had no responsibility to any customer. They don't even operate this platform.

Lol, it seems that way. Anyhow, i think you won on this issue.

In short what has to happen, are regulators and elected officials have to be more proactive on these matters, and i have no doubt it will happen.

Just more younger folks in tune with tech and gaming need to be elected to those positions, and are. It just takes awhile.

[xBCxRangers]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 xBCxRangers：

I was asking a sincere question, but apparently enough you're talking to the right person in that regard lol. At least my former career now retired.

And so it seems, unless you hold those bonafides, you may want to hold your tongue on some of these matters, including this one, being you don't know what the word "sincere" even means.

If that's your background, then you should know that stopping development of a game after some time isn't an illegal act.

No, my past position would not tell me that at all.

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

Nah dude steam had no responsibility to any customer. They don't even operate this platform.

Lol, it seems that way. Anyhow, i think you won on this issue.

In short what has to happen, are regulators and elected officials have to be more proactive on these matters, and i have no doubt it will happen.

Just more younger folks in tune with tech and gaming need to be elected to those positions, and are. It just takes awhile.

This statement contradicts this one;

引用自 xBCxRangers：

I was asking a sincere question, but apparently enough you're talking to the right person in that regard lol. At least my former career now retired.

And so it seems, unless you hold those bonafides, you may want to hold your tongue on some of these matters, including this one, being you don't know what the word "sincere" even means.

I mean we did have to pass a reading comprehension exam, even w/o college back in those days lol.

[Brian9824]

引用自 xBCxRangers：

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

Nah dude steam had no responsibility to any customer. They don't even operate this platform.

Lol, it seems that way. Anyhow, i think you won on this issue.

In short what has to happen, are regulators and elected officials have to be more proactive on these matters, and i have no doubt it will happen.

Just more younger folks in tune with tech and gaming need to be elected to those positions, and are. It just takes awhile.

Regulators have nothing to do with Steam, if Fntastic committed any crimes such as false advertisement they will be investigated by the FTC and the relevant agencies. Non of which involves Steam.