Steam Is Responsible For The Day Before

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

The dev is closing a few days after this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EA system steam allows. I guess if you followed the game, there were issues. Steam pulled it at one point. What does Valve/Steam do? Still let this dumbass dev sell a product, and make some money off it with them before they run.

Blaming the customer is the drug dealer mindset. Taking advantage of people with mental illness, addiction, trauma, and recognizing this is the population you're preying on.

EA doesn't allow for proper information when making a decision to purchase. If a user is responsible for buying The Day Before, because it looked bad from the start, then why would Steam sell it? They should know it was bad too, right? Does the consumer have to be more educated than steam?

A drug dealer knows he's selling you heroine and what it's going to do to you. He knows it doesn't help you, he is okay leading you down a bad path to worsen yourself for his gain.

Early Access is deliberately vague in terms, and is totally there to benefit fake games and falsely represented games, while giving them an out. The developer chooses what to show the customer, the developer controls the comments and narrative on the forums that could warn of a bad product. It is simply not a market that encourages an educated customer, but it is to take advantage of an optimistic and hopeful customer.

By buying into Early Access, the intention is to make the dream come alive, to support an idea or a dev you like. Yet, the dev or steam, have no obligation in that. It winds up being the customers dream, and their dream alone. The customer is expected to be altruistic to their project, to buy in and support it! All while there's no delivery. A product can be Early Access for Years? What? Oh it's because its vague tos protects the swindlers.

These devs are the drug dealers, but steam is the trap house. They know what's happening in their house, they just look the other way. Valve allows early access, they allow this climate, this is their service, this is their product.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

All posts name calling and derailing have been reported. I've asked once to stop, I won't ask again. Stop trying to close the thread, stay on topic.

[Mad Scientist]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

All posts name calling and derailing have been reported. I've asked once to stop, I won't ask again. Stop trying to close the thread, stay on topic.

Well blaming Valve for another company doing something illegitimate deceiving everyone isn't really related to it being Valves responsibility, it's those that did the deception.

Valve removed it for obvious reasons as it seemed like a rug pull quick cash grab to pay off debt that they shouldnt've had with that many games out. Releasing & shutting down seemed planned, among the many other complaints about the game resulting in refunds despite hours, though they should do refunds for everyone automatically.

Chances are the Developer may be banned from Steam over this, so either way, they're not likely to pay off their debts, let alone be able to try anything like that again.

You hold the company that did the wrong responsible, which is fntastic, not Valve. Valve is making the right moves, the Developer fntastic is not doing the right moves. One displays good faith; Valve. The other displays bad faith; Fntastic.

[Ethanol]

Yea, it's absolutely the store's fault when manufacturing company lied about the product.

Great logic right there.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

引用自 Mad Scientist：

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

All posts name calling and derailing have been reported. I've asked once to stop, I won't ask again. Stop trying to close the thread, stay on topic.

Well blaming Valve for another company doing something illegitimate deceiving everyone isn't really related to it being Valves responsibility, it's those that did the deception.

Valve removed it for obvious reasons as it seemed like a rug pull quick cash grab to pay off debt that they shouldnt've had with that many games out. Releasing & shutting down seemed planned, among the many other complaints about the game resulting in refunds despite hours, though they should do refunds for everyone automatically.

Chances are the Developer may be banned from Steam over this, so either way, they're not likely to pay off their debts, let alone be able to try anything like that again.

You hold the company that did the wrong responsible, which is fntastic, not Valve. Valve is making the right moves, the Developer fntastic is not doing the right moves. One displays good faith; Valve. The other displays bad faith; Fntastic.

No one is saying the dev didn't do wrong.
I own a music venue. I allow acts to perform. It would be like me allowing culture club, wham, and right said Fred to perform. Then I also allow skrewdriver.

[WolfEisberg]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

The dev is closing a few days after this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EA system steam allows. I guess if you followed the game, there were issues. Steam pulled it at one point. What does Valve/Steam do? Still let this dumbass dev sell a product, and make some money off it with them before they run.

make money and run with it? They are literally giving refunds, they won't be making any money

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1372880/view/3863588843610528787?l=english

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

引用自 Mad Scientist：

Well blaming Valve for another company doing something illegitimate deceiving everyone isn't really related to it being Valves responsibility, it's those that did the deception.

Valve removed it for obvious reasons as it seemed like a rug pull quick cash grab to pay off debt that they shouldnt've had with that many games out. Releasing & shutting down seemed planned, among the many other complaints about the game resulting in refunds despite hours, though they should do refunds for everyone automatically.

Chances are the Developer may be banned from Steam over this, so either way, they're not likely to pay off their debts, let alone be able to try anything like that again.

You hold the company that did the wrong responsible, which is fntastic, not Valve. Valve is making the right moves, the Developer fntastic is not doing the right moves. One displays good faith; Valve. The other displays bad faith; Fntastic.

No one is saying the dev didn't do wrong.
I own a music venue. I allow acts to perform. It would be like me allowing culture club, wham, and right said Fred to perform. Then I also allow skrewdriver.

What's wrong with that?

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

引用自 WolfEisberg：

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

The dev is closing a few days after this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ EA system steam allows. I guess if you followed the game, there were issues. Steam pulled it at one point. What does Valve/Steam do? Still let this dumbass dev sell a product, and make some money off it with them before they run.

make money and run with it? They are literally giving refunds, they won't be making any money

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1372880/view/3863588843610528787?l=english

Because if they didn't they would be complicit

[Mad Scientist]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

I own a music venue. I allow acts to perform. It would be like me allowing culture club, wham, and right said Fred to perform. Then I also allow skrewdriver.

Who's giving refunds, Valve or the Developer?

Because it's Valve doing so in good faith as the Developer would rather try running off with the money, and they are the party that did the deception & rug pull trying to run off with quick cash.

The store is not responsible for others behavior when they signed the agreements stating they'd follow laws & rules, now Valve is involved to the point games are being delisted, the Developer tried changing their name per SteamDB which will also raise red flags.

Those that do wrong are the ones responsible for doing wrong. Those merely a store to host products may take appropriate action to resolve problems, including taking action against the responsible party.

When something is done that you don't like that someone else does, it's not another parties fault.

Keep in mind many people bring up other matters because they are directly related to what someone does and why they make threads targeting the wrong party for what a different party does. It's relevant context.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

引用自 WolfEisberg：

make money and run with it? They are literally giving refunds, they won't be making any money

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1372880/view/3863588843610528787?l=english

Because if they didn't they would be complicit

That'd be if the money ever reached the Dev in the first place, which, it didn't...

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

引用自 WolfEisberg：

make money and run with it? They are literally giving refunds, they won't be making any money

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1372880/view/3863588843610528787?l=english

Because if they didn't they would be complicit

The first payment from Steam wouldn't happen until the end of January anyways. They never received anything. This is just the dev trying to save face.

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

Because if they didn't they would be complicit

That'd be if the money ever reached the Dev in the first place, which, it didn't...

You don't know that

[Boblin the Goblin]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：

That'd be if the money ever reached the Dev in the first place, which, it didn't...

You don't know that

Steam literally only pays out at the end of the month if the revenue reaches more than $100.

This is literally in their documentation. So yes, we do know that.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

引用自 Leonardo Da Pinchi：

That'd be if the money ever reached the Dev in the first place, which, it didn't...

You don't know that

Q. When can I expect to be paid every month?

A. We pay out by the 30th of the month following sales. For example, we will pay you for calendar February month sales by March 30th. It may take a few business days for the payment to post to your bank account. In that case, you may see the payment in your bank account during the first few days of April, following the example above.

Q. Is there a minimum revenue I must earn before I can receive a payment?

A. Yes. There are costs associated with issuing each individual payment as well as potential bank fees charged to you upon receiving money that make it prohibitive to pay out for small amounts of money. Therefore, we may hold your payment until a minimum of $100 payout is earned.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/finance/payments_salesreporting/faq#payments

[BLOOD ASYLUM]

引用自 SlowMango：

引用自 BLOOD ASYLUM：

You don't know that

Steam literally only pays out at the end of the month if the revenue reaches more than $100.

This is literally in their documentation. So yes, we do know that.

You don't

[Boblin the Goblin]

So you don't try to say it's false;

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/finance/payments_salesreporting#2

引用自 Valve：

Payments:
If your products have sales for the prior month and have exceeded the minimum $100 threshold, Valve will issue payment via Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT). We send ACH payments to US based banks and USD SWIFT wires for banks located outside of the US.

Valve issues payment for sales 30 days after they are made, usually at the end of the month. For example, payments for February sales will be made at the end of March.