The day before: steam early access needs to be reformed

[NoobOrFeed]

Steam early access really needs to be reformed. It shouldnt be used to hide behind the EA banner and grab money with a scam.

The day before had every sign of a fake. Now its here and everything points toward the game being a scam.

It shouldnt be possible to hide behind early access and provide a game like that. I bet my money that there wont be a single update for the game and the devs only hope for enough money from people lazy enough to refund!

[Pscht]

"Content creators", pah. I am making this here post, I'm a content creator too.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Postat inițial de Pscht:

"Content creators", pah. I am making this here post, I'm a content creator too.

I mean, we both know that isn't the same.

[NoobOrFeed]

I am still in disbelieve that Steam hasent taken any Actions so far against this fraud...

[davidb11]

Postat inițial de NoobOrFeed:

I am still in disbelieve that Steam hasent taken any Actions so far against this fraud...

What fraud?
If you're talking about The Day Before, it's not fair to call it a fraud.

It exists.
Ergo, it's not fake.

[Start_Running]

Postat inițial de davidb11:

Postat inițial de NoobOrFeed:

I am still in disbelieve that Steam hasent taken any Actions so far against this fraud...

What fraud?
If you're talking about The Day Before, it's not fair to call it a fraud.

It exists.
Ergo, it's not fake.

It's an Unfinished open world m,mo. WHat do people expect that to look like?

[Boblin the Goblin]

Postat inițial de davidb11:

Postat inițial de NoobOrFeed:

I am still in disbelieve that Steam hasent taken any Actions so far against this fraud...

What fraud?
If you're talking about The Day Before, it's not fair to call it a fraud.

It exists.
Ergo, it's not fake.

No, it's 100% fair to call it fraud.

There's a reading they've literally removed their advertised gameplay footage they released earlier this year. Even mods in the Discord(who are allegedly also developers) flat out told people before release it was not an extraction shooter.

The fraud part comes into play based in what they advertised the games as for the past year versus what they released.

[davidb11]

Postat inițial de SlowMango:

Postat inițial de davidb11:

What fraud?
If you're talking about The Day Before, it's not fair to call it a fraud.

It exists.
Ergo, it's not fake.

No, it's 100% fair to call it fraud.

There's a reading they've literally removed their advertised gameplay footage they released earlier this year. Even mods in the Discord(who are allegedly also developers) flat out told people before release it was not an extraction shooter.

The fraud part comes into play based in what they advertised the games as for the past year versus what they released.

Oh. Okay.
Wild.

[Start_Running]

Postat inițial de SlowMango:

Postat inițial de davidb11:

What fraud?
If you're talking about The Day Before, it's not fair to call it a fraud.

It exists.
Ergo, it's not fake.

No, it's 100% fair to call it fraud.

There's a reading they've literally removed their advertised gameplay footage they released earlier this year. Even mods in the Discord(who are allegedly also developers) flat out told people before release it was not an extraction shooter.

The fraud part comes into play based in what they advertised the games as for the past year versus what they released.

So have they started calling it an Extraction shooter since release?
Secondly...scope can change duiring development.
Thirdly, What did you expect an uinfinished indevel;open world shooter to look like?

[eram]

Postat inițial de Start_Running:

Postat inițial de SlowMango:

No, it's 100% fair to call it fraud.

There's a reading they've literally removed their advertised gameplay footage they released earlier this year. Even mods in the Discord(who are allegedly also developers) flat out told people before release it was not an extraction shooter.

The fraud part comes into play based in what they advertised the games as for the past year versus what they released.

So have they started calling it an Extraction shooter since release?
Secondly...scope can change duiring development.
Thirdly, What did you expect an uinfinished indevel;open world shooter to look like?

the game was for the last 5 years billed as an open world zombie mmo
the day it released without telling anyone its a small pre built asset map anyone can buy,
players wouldnt even know until they are properly into the game that it has been switched.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Postat inițial de Start_Running:

Postat inițial de SlowMango:

No, it's 100% fair to call it fraud.

There's a reading they've literally removed their advertised gameplay footage they released earlier this year. Even mods in the Discord(who are allegedly also developers) flat out told people before release it was not an extraction shooter.

The fraud part comes into play based in what they advertised the games as for the past year versus what they released.

So have they started calling it an Extraction shooter since release?
Secondly...scope can change duiring development.
Thirdly, What did you expect an uinfinished indevel;open world shooter to look like?

They haven't addressed it since release. They've shut down their discord to new users and shut down their bug report channel.

Changing the genre completely is much more than just changing the scope. They went from advertising an open world MMO survival shooter with PvP to releasing an extraction shooter. That isn't changing scope, that's making a different game.

Being "in development" is not a pass for the the change betw een what was advertised to what is released.

[eram]

deleting all the old videos of the game development as well

[NoobOrFeed]

Postat inițial de davidb11:

Postat inițial de NoobOrFeed:

I am still in disbelieve that Steam hasent taken any Actions so far against this fraud...

What fraud?
If you're talking about The Day Before, it's not fair to call it a fraud.

It exists.
Ergo, it's not fake.

One day prior to release, they removed all their gameplay footage showing an open world mmo from their YT page.

A day later game releases, it has nothing to do with an mmo. Its a Simple and bad extraction shooter. Small maps, 0 survival, 0 pve.

Shop page is still advertising as an open world mmo.

All of their footage and gameplay suggested an entirely different game. Thats fraud imo

[eram]

some of us have been following this game for quite a while. some of the regs didnt take any time to look into it.

[Start_Running]

Postat inițial de eram:

Postat inițial de Start_Running:

So have they started calling it an Extraction shooter since release?
Secondly...scope can change duiring development.
Thirdly, What did you expect an uinfinished indevel;open world shooter to look like?

the game was for the last 5 years billed as an open world zombie mmo

Yes...

Postat inițial de eram:

the day it released without telling anyone its a small pre built asset map anyone can buy,
players wouldnt even know until they are properly into the game that it has been switched.

And there my question comes back. WHat did you expect an UNFINISHED and advertised as UNFINISHED open world shooter to look like?

I mean miost such games generally start out with small maps of pre-built assets with basic minimal featuresets.

Postat inițial de SlowMango:

Postat inițial de Start_Running:

So have they started calling it an Extraction shooter since release?
Secondly...scope can change duiring development.
Thirdly, What did you expect an uinfinished indevel;open world shooter to look like?

They haven't addressed it since release. They've shut down their discord to new users and shut down their bug report channel.

Changing the genre completely is much more than just changing the scope. They went from advertising an open world MMO survival shooter with PvP to releasing an extraction shooter. That isn't changing scope, that's making a different game.

Being "in development" is not a pass for the the change betw een what was advertised to what is released.

How are you so sure its changed?
I mean as I asked. WHat do you expect such a a game to look like in the EARLY stages of development?

It's generally either going to be a big enmopty map with with nothing of interest in it. or a small map with very luittle of interest,.


Why do you and otheres seem to expect it to look an play like a game thats just shy of fuinal release?

[Start_Running]

Postat inițial de eram:

some of us have been following this game for quite a while. some of the regs didnt take any time to look into it.

Well yeah You've been following it and what not but what is concerned is what shown on the actual product page when it goes up for sale. ANything before that really doesn't count.