DKatana 2023년 12월 7일 오전 6시 13분
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Games That Won't Work on Win 10/11
Steam will stop running on Windows 7/8 next month. Yet classic titles in my Steam library won't work or run poorly on Windows 10/11. Risen, Capitalism and the original Rome: Total War are three examples.

This website has a list of further such titles:

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

Forum topics complain of games not working post-upgrade, for example:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3203747342905653826/

It's time we called the phasing out of Win 7/8 for what it is: a hostile, anti-consumer move, denying customers access to games they paid for. For retro gamers this mess opens up a can of worms which no amount of "lol just upgrade bro" can wave away.
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MG_CD 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 03분 
Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:
Why do 3 games get mentioned in the OP that work on Win 10?

DKatana님이 먼저 게시:
Instead of honestly acknowledging these gaping issues, I see assumptions and sarcasm that attempt to belittle the entire problem.
It's not a gaping issue. It's standard practice that older gmaes might need some tweaks to run better. It's actually pretty rare that gaems don't outright run on Win 10, for example.

Honestly this is why I dislike fully digital releases. It might be standard practice these days that you need to mod games in order for them to work again. But if you have paid for a game that was advertised to run on win 7 and later the publisher decides to do something to the client software which creates issues for the game on win 7 then the publisher is at fault. If you have paid for a game that is advertised to run on a certain system it should continue to do so or the customer has right to at least a partial refund.
I am not making any claims regarding any developer or publisher. I am just illustrating a point.
With physical releases these issues weren't happening as much.
Qbert ⭐ 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 10분 
DKatana님이 먼저 게시:
Steam will stop running on Windows 7/8 next month. Yet classic titles in my Steam library won't work or run poorly on Windows 10/11. Risen, Capitalism and the original Rome: Total War are three examples.

This website has a list of further such titles:

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

Forum topics complain of games not working post-upgrade, for example:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3203747342905653826/

It's time we called the phasing out of Win 7/8 for what it is: a hostile, anti-consumer move, denying customers access to games they paid for. For retro gamers this mess opens up a can of worms which no amount of "lol just upgrade bro" can wave away.
Oh nyo...

Anyway... :lol:
Haruspex 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 25분 
There are no PC games that you can't play on Windows 10 or 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ2x2fedGr0
(Capitalism is a bit obscure and I can't find footage of it on Win 10, but the Steam version runs in DosBox. It's fine.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1b8obp2Grw

The last example is just PC gaming. Sometimes we need to tweak and adjust things to get them working. This has been true since the dawn of the PC. Besides, the original isn't even available on Steam, and the remastered version runs fine without any tweaks and adjustments.

Today, there are more games you can't play by sticking with Windows 7 than there are games you won't be able to play after upgrading to Windows 10. In 99.999% of cases, you can get any PC game from the past 40 years of PC gaming history up and running on Windows 10/11. Meanwhile there's nothing you can do to get proper modern graphics API support on your Windows 7 machine.

If you want to "just play" without having to think at all or make any adjustments, consoles are there for you.
BJWyler 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 35분 
DKatana님이 먼저 게시:
Instead of honestly acknowledging these gaping issues, I see assumptions and sarcasm that attempt to belittle the entire problem.
It's not a gaping issue. It's making a mountain out of the tiniest of anthills. I had more issues getting games to run on Windows 7 than I did on 10.

MG_CD님이 먼저 게시:
Honestly this is why I dislike fully digital releases. It might be standard practice these days that you need to mod games in order for them to work again. But if you have paid for a game that was advertised to run on win 7 and later the publisher decides to do something to the client software which creates issues for the game on win 7 then the publisher is at fault. If you have paid for a game that is advertised to run on a certain system it should continue to do so or the customer has right to at least a partial refund.
So I should be able to walk into Best Buy, Gamestop, and all those other stores I bought games from that were advertised to work on DOS, 3.11, 95, 98, Me, and XP and be owed refunds? Does that include my games that are on 5.25" floppy and cassette tape?

Consumers are owed nothing other than the product they bought under the licensing terms they agreed to when purchasing and installing the software.

MG_CD님이 먼저 게시:
With physical releases these issues weren't happening as much.
Hardly. Back in the day, I had to configure a game to be compatible with all my hardware every time I booted up. Personally, I have found things much easier now, in the digital age, than they ever were before.
NuLife 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 39분 
Haruspex님이 먼저 게시:
There are no PC games that you can't play on Windows 10 or 11.


Today, there are more games you can't play by sticking with Windows 7 than there are games you won't be able to play after upgrading to Windows 10. In 99.999% of cases, you can get any PC game from the past 40 years of PC gaming history up and running on Windows 10/11. Meanwhile there's nothing you can do to get proper modern graphics API support on your Windows 7 machine.

If you want to "just play" without having to think at all or make any adjustments, consoles are there for you.
they don't even need to be pc games to play on pc in the past few decades lol, peps just want something to complain as they always do.
xBCxRangers 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 40분 
Haruspex님이 먼저 게시:
There are no PC games that you can't play on Windows 10 or 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ2x2fedGr0
(Capitalism is a bit obscure and I can't find footage of it on Win 10, but the Steam version runs in DosBox. It's fine.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1b8obp2Grw

The last example is just PC gaming. Sometimes we need to tweak and adjust things to get them working. This has been true since the dawn of the PC. Besides, the original isn't even available on Steam, and the remastered version runs fine without any tweaks and adjustments.

Today, there are more games you can't play by sticking with Windows 7 than there are games you won't be able to play after upgrading to Windows 10. In 99.999% of cases, you can get any PC game from the past 40 years of PC gaming history up and running on Windows 10/11. Meanwhile there's nothing you can do to get proper modern graphics API support on your Windows 7 machine.

If you want to "just play" without having to think at all or make any adjustments, consoles are there for you.

Yep, last point hits it home. I learned a VERY big lesson in all this with PC, thankfully i mainly play on consoles (and have for 40 years) and never dealt with these issues.

I mean i'm crying losing a library of pre 2008 games, that i love, but altogether are probably worth 50 bucks. Some people here are losing thousands. I can't even imagine.

Consoles is def the way to go today. They're cheap, today you can even use a k&m, and even decent makeups of those machines.

And you go for Xbox, you get access to Ge Force Now, you can get many of the big PC Exclusives thru Steam or Epic.
Brian9824 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 41분 
DKatana님이 먼저 게시:
Steam will stop running on Windows 7/8 next month. Yet classic titles in my Steam library won't work or run poorly on Windows 10/11. Risen, Capitalism and the original Rome: Total War are three examples.

This website has a list of further such titles:

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games
Many of those games aren't even sold on Steam, and the games you listed for instance aren't on that list so your information is VERY wrong


DKatana님이 먼저 게시:
Forum topics complain of games not working post-upgrade, for example:

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3203747342905653826/
You should really actually read the full thread instead of googling it. The person complaining about his games running fixed his issue. He just had to run them in compatibility mode and they worked fine.
Brian9824 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 42분 
xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:
I mean i'm crying losing a library of pre 2008 games, that i love, but altogether are probably worth 50 bucks. Some people here are losing thousands. I can't even imagine.
No one is losing anything as the games still work on newer OS's. Sadly some people are ignorant and just like to keep making false claims.
Crazy Tiger 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 43분 
MG_CD님이 먼저 게시:
Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:
Why do 3 games get mentioned in the OP that work on Win 10?


It's not a gaping issue. It's standard practice that older gmaes might need some tweaks to run better. It's actually pretty rare that gaems don't outright run on Win 10, for example.

Honestly this is why I dislike fully digital releases. It might be standard practice these days that you need to mod games in order for them to work again. But if you have paid for a game that was advertised to run on win 7 and later the publisher decides to do something to the client software which creates issues for the game on win 7 then the publisher is at fault. If you have paid for a game that is advertised to run on a certain system it should continue to do so or the customer has right to at least a partial refund.
I am not making any claims regarding any developer or publisher. I am just illustrating a point.
With physical releases these issues weren't happening as much.
It was standard practise back in the 90s when games were new releases as well. Plenty of games you had to run the sound setup a few times to find the proper settings for actual sound, unless you had the Soundblaster Live card, for example.

Heck, when UT3 released in 2007 it had issues with certain hardware configurations so you had to modify files to get it to run properly. I've had other games where I had to modify some things as well.

People have rose tinted glasses of the past in that regard.
xBCxRangers 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 46분 
brian9824님이 먼저 게시:
xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:
I mean i'm crying losing a library of pre 2008 games, that i love, but altogether are probably worth 50 bucks. Some people here are losing thousands. I can't even imagine.
No one is losing anything as the games still work on newer OS's. Sadly some people are ignorant and just like to keep making false claims.

Well, until efforts are made to buy others new computers to run this stuff, their views are about spot on. I can still play my 360 and PS3 games. All of them, that have been offline for about 10 years. That's the answer.

Not all of ts gouging running thru hoops, whenever Mr Newell or MS wants to make more money, and you lose everything. That is foul. And when they complain, to get tomatoes thrown at them, that's just sick lol.
HoopleBogart 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 53분 
I await my windows 10 capable PC Steam. You can just send it to my billing address. Thanks!
Chika Ogiue 2023년 12월 7일 오전 8시 55분 
DKatana님이 먼저 게시:

This website has a list of further such titles:

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

The reason those aren't working is certainly down to whatever DRM wrapper that service is using. For example, they list Cate West - The Vanishing Files as not working. It loads and plays on Windows 10 just fine if you have it from Big Fish games -- I've just tested my copy to confirm.
Boblin the Goblin 2023년 12월 7일 오전 9시 09분 
xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:
brian9824님이 먼저 게시:
No one is losing anything as the games still work on newer OS's. Sadly some people are ignorant and just like to keep making false claims.

Well, until efforts are made to buy others new computers to run this stuff, their views are about spot on. I can still play my 360 and PS3 games. All of them, that have been offline for about 10 years. That's the answer.

Not all of ts gouging running thru hoops, whenever Mr Newell or MS wants to make more money, and you lose everything. That is foul. And when they complain, to get tomatoes thrown at them, that's just sick lol.

Thinking a company must make an effort(or anyone but yourself) to buy users new hardware is just pure entitlement plain and simple.

The announcement has been known for almost 8 months. If someone isn't about to save up around $400-$600 in that time, it is not the fault of the company.
Start_Running 2023년 12월 7일 오전 9시 11분 
xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:
brian9824님이 먼저 게시:
No one is losing anything as the games still work on newer OS's. Sadly some people are ignorant and just like to keep making false claims.

Well, until efforts are made to buy others new computers to run this stuff, their views are about spot on. I can still play my 360 and PS3 games. All of them, that have been offline for about 10 years. That's the answer.
Why buy new computers. The system reqs for Wiundows 10 and 7 are the same.
Boblin the Goblin 2023년 12월 7일 오전 9시 13분 
Start_Running님이 먼저 게시:
xBCxRangers님이 먼저 게시:

Well, until efforts are made to buy others new computers to run this stuff, their views are about spot on. I can still play my 360 and PS3 games. All of them, that have been offline for about 10 years. That's the answer.
Why buy new computers. The system reqs for Wiundows 10 and 7 are the same.

When you computer is pre-Windows 7, new hardware is required.
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