Steam Money Politics

[Crippled Herald]

dollar base, We have become unable to play, Steam doesn't care You earn money thanks to players! Millions of players should boycott! He doesn't think about poor countries like us. Dollar is a big money for us. 1 dolar It corresponds to the number 25. What are you thinking?

[Crippled Herald]

Originalmente postado por LeftIsBest-James:

Originalmente postado por niralamart000:

you're saying people should shut up and be glad publishers haven't geo blocked them?

GeoBlocking (within EU member-states) is banned for games.
It's like blocking red-states for Steam games.

Countries with different Trade-Agreements have their own rules.
- if it's illegal to be sold, it legitimate to block it.

3 dolar 86 african money! It's the same in Argentina and Africa. That's why convenience is a must!

[LeftIsBest-James]

Originalmente postado por ardal aep dahy:

Originalmente postado por LeftIsBest-James:

GeoBlocking (within EU member-states) is banned for games.
It's like blocking red-states for Steam games.

Countries with different Trade-Agreements have their own rules.
- if it's illegal to be sold, it legitimate to block it.

3 dolar 86 african money! It's the same in Argentina and Africa. That's why convenience is a must!

I'm fine with cheaper prices for different Trade Agreements.

But EU-member states share a single Trade Agreement:
- this has been done to death in https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3874842132559957232/
"Valve rekt in court AGAIN - Valve loses fight over geoblocking"
- the US-TradeDept tried. Apple tried.

[niralamart000]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

Originalmente postado por ❤ Lillian Gish ❤:

No offence , but if you live in a poor country on a low salary shouldn't you concentrate on your daily living instead of buying video games ?

In poorer countries, prices are adjusted, so costs are basically in line as your own nation. In my own country at the moment, we are having a cost of living crisis where costs are shooting up and wages are not keeping pace. Your statement above can also applies to any nation as well.

i don't think you understand how real life even works buddy, what an unhelpful and insensitive comment to give to some one. like yeah we also pay for our internet based on uk prices lol, also newsflash our internet services are top tier and affordable.

[GalerianXD1]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

Originalmente postado por Kage Goomba:

Steam has nothing to do with it. Its the exchange rate.

Steam puts the prices at a baseline - only the Devs can adjust it from there - and if they choose not to do so due to the poor state of the currency in a given country - that's on them.

So you either live with it - or go somewhere else.

But blaming Steam for something your country is unable to deal with - is just childish.
There's no politics - its just cold hard economics.

And trust me when I said this - Steam isn't going to suffer for it.
Time to move on and focus on more important things.

Complaining will do nothing - literally - but feel free to appeal to the Devs to lower their prices - THAT might actually do something.

You should stop defending a billion dollar company. Steam is rich enough to take the hit for a short while but chooses not too and put the burden on the paying customers.

He is not defending it, he's right.

[Satoru]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

Originalmente postado por Kage Goomba:

Steam has nothing to do with it. Its the exchange rate.

Steam puts the prices at a baseline - only the Devs can adjust it from there - and if they choose not to do so due to the poor state of the currency in a given country - that's on them.

So you either live with it - or go somewhere else.

But blaming Steam for something your country is unable to deal with - is just childish.
There's no politics - its just cold hard economics.

And trust me when I said this - Steam isn't going to suffer for it.
Time to move on and focus on more important things.

Complaining will do nothing - literally - but feel free to appeal to the Devs to lower their prices - THAT might actually do something.

You should stop defending a billion dollar company. Steam is rich enough to take the hit for a short while but chooses not too and put the burden on the paying customers.

Steam is not taking “a hit” on anything

Developers are

Developers are the ones who wanted stability in their pricing models due to Turkeys and Argentinas free falling currency

So Steam addressed their concerns

No one is “defending” anyone

You on the other hand seem to not understand the underlying reasons behind this change and insist “steam” is the problem because you seemingly do not want to understand

[Satoru]

Originalmente postado por LeftIsBest-James:

Originalmente postado por ardal aep dahy:

3 dolar 86 african money! It's the same in Argentina and Africa. That's why convenience is a must!

I'm fine with cheaper prices for different Trade Agreements.

But EU-member states share a single Trade Agreement:
- this has been done to death in https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3874842132559957232/
"Valve rekt in court AGAIN - Valve loses fight over geoblocking"
- the US-TradeDept tried. Apple tried.

People really do not seem to understand how trade agreements actually work. By your utterly insane logic countries that do not participate in the Euro currency are supposed to price their products in Euros? Like maybe you sort of forgot how the UK worked before they left the EU

Being a member state doesn’t magically mean the things you seem to think it means

[Komarimaru]

And people forget those trade agreements is what made the poorer countries in the EU be forced to pay full price with no adjustment, since geo blocking is so /s evil!

[LeftIsBest-James]

Originalmente postado por Satoru:

Originalmente postado por LeftIsBest-James:

I'm fine with cheaper prices for different Trade Agreements.

But EU-member states share a single Trade Agreement:
- this has been done to death in https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3874842132559957232/
"Valve rekt in court AGAIN - Valve loses fight over geoblocking"
- the US-TradeDept tried. Apple tried.

People really do not seem to understand how trade agreements actually work. By your utterly insane logic countries that do not participate in the Euro currency are supposed to price their products in Euros? Like maybe you sort of forgot how the UK worked before they left the EU
Being a member state doesn’t magically mean the things you seem to think it means

UK was one of the EU-trinity. It had special privileges.
They made laws, they often wrote to not affect them specifically (legally).
They thought they could do better.

Intra-EU trade is one thing. But when '3rd countries' (like the US/UK) trade with member states, the tariffs are block-negotiated.

[SLAYER187]

Funny to me that when people have issues on here it always seems to be valve but it is not smh! jumping to blaming conclusions will not help or fix the problem especially when it is the user. There is a way to use everything and steam is no exception, as kage goomba and frank honey said above and yes there is no money politics which is not politics.

[Start_Running]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

Originalmente postado por Kage Goomba:

Steam has nothing to do with it. Its the exchange rate.

Steam puts the prices at a baseline - only the Devs can adjust it from there - and if they choose not to do so due to the poor state of the currency in a given country - that's on them.

So you either live with it - or go somewhere else.

But blaming Steam for something your country is unable to deal with - is just childish.
There's no politics - its just cold hard economics.

And trust me when I said this - Steam isn't going to suffer for it.
Time to move on and focus on more important things.

Complaining will do nothing - literally - but feel free to appeal to the Devs to lower their prices - THAT might actually do something.

You should stop defending a billion dollar company. Steam is rich enough to take the hit for a short while but chooses not too and put the burden on the paying customers.

Well thats rather entitled of you to think that someone else should 'take a hit for you' just because.

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

And people forget those trade agreements is what made the poorer countries in the EU be forced to pay full price with no adjustment, since geo blocking is so /s evil!

Yup because if you force the sellers to pick one price. They're not gonna give everyone tghe lowest price. They're gonna steer towards the higher price. because at the end of the day it makes no sense to sell twice as many copies at a third of the price.. Better to sell half as many copies at twice the price.

[Ganger]

Originalmente postado por Start_Running:

Well thats rather entitled of you to think that someone else should 'take a hit for you' just because

Im not a entitled person personally, I work for my money, pay my taxes and im generally a good citizen. But recently im getting more and more angry with big corporations and their greedy practices and corporate double dealings. The human factor is no longer part of the discussion, it's all about money, bottom lines, share value, share holders and greed.

I admit, I have been watching far to much social media and reading articles on this subject and many others and it just seems to me, there out to grab as much money as possible from you and are willing to betray their own values and moral in doing so but yet we have legions of fans that will protect and defend them.

Guys... Social media is starting too screw up my mind with the endless information im receiving on a daily basis from all sides of the coin. Sometimes I think ignorance is bliss.

[Tito Shivan]

Originalmente postado por Ganger:

The human factor is no longer part of the discussion

Spoiler: It never really was.

[76561199559798421]

its been discussed that steams actual users only make a small % of its revenue, and that a majority of its revenue like all companies is advertising and data mining sales in the form of names, identities , and game related data collection.

that the actual sales of games sold on steam only makes 25-30% of steams over all profits, and that it is infact making money from companies seeking to advertise the games, hardware, promotional advertisments for both games and hardware, and yes even operating system promotion from majors like microsoft, all of these contribute to steams profits.

keep in mind that millions are spent on marketing games, even when those games fail to profit or draw in players those marketing millions are still spent.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originalmente postado por Everyone is Invited:

its been discussed that steams actual users only make a small % of its revenue, and that a majority of its revenue like all companies is advertising and data mining sales in the form of names, identities , and game related data collection.

that the actual sales of games sold on steam only makes 25-30% of steams over all profits, and that it is infact making money from companies seeking to advertise the games, hardware, promotional advertisments for both games and hardware, and yes even operating system promotion from majors like microsoft, all of these contribute to steams profits.

keep in mind that millions are spent on marketing games, even when those games fail to profit or draw in players those marketing millions are still spent.

May I see your sources for all this information?

[76561199559798421]

well the actual % is subjective, but the basic formula is easy to understand, it is simple marketing

take for example other major online company's which rely on advertising to promote growth, it is the same thing. revenue is generated regardless of what it comes from.

but it is subjectively easy to say that steam doesn't care about its human factor because its not needed,


the review system is automated - that is sold
the data is collected - that is sold
Games are Advertised - that is sold
Users are Branded to buy buy buy - that is sold
Hardware is manufactured in bulk - that is sold


Any company wanting to do business on steam pays a price to have access to many features that involve steams population of users and as such its population of automated users as well.

its again just simple marketing, steam is not just a game play software it has become a major video game marketing tool to control popularity of video games.