I was banned on Cs2 and i want to know if i will be banned from Counter strike 1 or Counter strike 2000.

[Crispy]

if im permanently banned from cs2 from using aimbot on "crispy55" account will i be able to play casual in counter strike 1 or counter strike (2000)? on any of the original games?

[Kage Goomba]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hennix:

i thought a ban in a source engine game applies on all source engine games

There are VAC bans and there are Game bans - they are very different things.

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hennix:

i thought a ban in a source engine game applies on all source engine games

On older games valve used to do engine wide bans (getting banned in cs 1.6 would ban you in team fortress classic). They don't do that anymore.

[Crispy]

a vac ban is when you get a game ban in that game. answer solved!

[Crispy]

oh srry i was wrong. a vac ban is when a steam account is banned from all vac secured - vac games which means that a steam account cannot play all games that are made by valve because all the games that are made by valve are all vac secured which means that a steam account with a "VAC BAN" on there steam profile cannot play any games made by valve since all the games made by valve are all Vac secured or Vac games whatever you call them but yeah. srry i was previously wrong on what i wrote. Answer Solved!

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

oh srry i was wrong. a vac ban is when a steam account is banned from all vac secured - vac games which means that a steam account cannot play all games that are made by valve because all the games that are made by valve are all vac secured which means that a steam account with a "VAC BAN" on there steam profile cannot play any games made by valve since all the games made by valve are all Vac secured or Vac games whatever you call them but yeah. srry i was previously wrong on what i wrote. Answer Solved!

Incorrect. Vac bans only apply to the game you are banned in except for older valve titles.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#eligible

[Crispy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af HikariLight:

The account is only banned from CS2.
But you need to reformat your computer to ensure you have got rid of all traces of the cheats so that VAC won't pick up on them when you try to play a different VAC protected game.

you are correct. because game bans is when a steam account is banned permanently or temporary from that one game that is vac secured. However, while vac bans is when a steam account is permanently banned from all Vac secured games made by valve.

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Oprindeligt skrevet af HikariLight:

The account is only banned from CS2.
But you need to reformat your computer to ensure you have got rid of all traces of the cheats so that VAC won't pick up on them when you try to play a different VAC protected game.

you are correct. because game bans is when a steam account is banned permanently or temporary from that one game that is vac secured. However, while vac bans is when a steam account is permanently banned from all Vac secured games made by valve.

Game bans and VAC bans are completely different things.

Vac bans are given when an account connects to a secure server with a known cheat. Vac is an automated system.

Game bans can be given by a developer for pretty much any reason they choose.

Both type of bans only apply to the game you are banned in.

[Crispy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

oh srry i was wrong. a vac ban is when a steam account is banned from all vac secured - vac games which means that a steam account cannot play all games that are made by valve because all the games that are made by valve are all vac secured which means that a steam account with a "VAC BAN" on there steam profile cannot play any games made by valve since all the games made by valve are all Vac secured or Vac games whatever you call them but yeah. srry i was previously wrong on what i wrote. Answer Solved!

Incorrect. Vac bans only apply to the game you are banned in except for older valve titles.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#eligible

Incorrect

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

oh srry i was wrong. a vac ban is when a steam account is banned from all vac secured - vac games which means that a steam account cannot play all games that are made by valve because all the games that are made by valve are all vac secured which means that a steam account with a "VAC BAN" on there steam profile cannot play any games made by valve since all the games made by valve are all Vac secured or Vac games whatever you call them but yeah. srry i was previously wrong on what i wrote. Answer Solved!

Incorrect. Vac bans only apply to the game you are banned in except for older valve titles.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/647C-5CC1-7EA9-3C29#eligible

that VAC bans issued after 12 September 2013 only apply to the game in which the cheating was detected, according to Steam Support 1. However, VAC bans issued before 12 September 2013 apply to all games that use VAC 1.

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Incorrect
that VAC bans issued after 12 September 2013 only apply to the game in which the cheating was detected, according to Steam Support 1. However, VAC bans issued before 12 September 2013 apply to all games that use VAC 1.

who ever told you that is wrong.

[Crispy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Incorrect
that VAC bans issued after 12 September 2013 only apply to the game in which the cheating was detected, according to Steam Support 1. However, VAC bans issued before 12 September 2013 apply to all games that use VAC 1.

who ever told you that is wrong.

it seems you’re right. A VAC ban typically applies to the game in which the cheating behavior occurred1. However, there’s an interesting update from Valve. They’ve made an exception for bans older than five years, as well as bans that pre-date a player’s first participation in a Valve-sponsored event234. These bans will no longer disqualify a player from participating in such events234. But, the other consequences of a VAC ban, like loss of access to VAC-protected multiplayer servers, achievements, tradable vanity items, etc., still remain2. So, it seems the impact of a VAC ban can vary depending on the circumstances.

[Crispy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Incorrect
that VAC bans issued after 12 September 2013 only apply to the game in which the cheating was detected, according to Steam Support 1. However, VAC bans issued before 12 September 2013 apply to all games that use VAC 1.

who ever told you that is wrong.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

who ever told you that is wrong.

it seems you’re right. A VAC ban typically applies to the game in which the cheating behavior occurred1. However, there’s an interesting update from Valve. They’ve made an exception for bans older than five years, as well as bans that pre-date a player’s first participation in a Valve-sponsored event234. These bans will no longer disqualify a player from participating in such events234. But, the other consequences of a VAC ban, like loss of access to VAC-protected multiplayer servers, achievements, tradable vanity items, etc., still remain2. So, it seems the impact of a VAC ban can vary depending on the circumstances.

whos is Right me or you or both of us?

[Abigail From Sneaky Squid Dept.]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

who ever told you that is wrong.

it seems you’re right. A VAC ban typically applies to the game in which the cheating behavior occurred1. However, there’s an interesting update from Valve. They’ve made an exception for bans older than five years, as well as bans that pre-date a player’s first participation in a Valve-sponsored event234. These bans will no longer disqualify a player from participating in such events234. But, the other consequences of a VAC ban, like loss of access to VAC-protected multiplayer servers, achievements, tradable vanity items, etc., still remain2. So, it seems the impact of a VAC ban can vary depending on the circumstances.

That only applies to pro players at valve sponsored events. If a pro player receives a vac ban, they are also banned from valves events for 5 years. After 5 years they will be allowed to attend again.

This only applies to the player, as their account will remain vac banned forever.

[Kage Goomba]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

who ever told you that is wrong.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

it seems you’re right. A VAC ban typically applies to the game in which the cheating behavior occurred1. However, there’s an interesting update from Valve. They’ve made an exception for bans older than five years, as well as bans that pre-date a player’s first participation in a Valve-sponsored event234. These bans will no longer disqualify a player from participating in such events234. But, the other consequences of a VAC ban, like loss of access to VAC-protected multiplayer servers, achievements, tradable vanity items, etc., still remain2. So, it seems the impact of a VAC ban can vary depending on the circumstances.

whos is Right me or you or both of us?

Not sure why your asking questions/discussing this here when there's a dedicated board for just that with all the answers/info on how it works.

Also I failed to notice the hilarious "Advice" about formatting your PC to remove the VAC Ban....yeah good luck with that. (It won't work)

VAC Bans are for life of the account - and only once in a blue moon do they reverse one (incredibly rare)

[Crispy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Abigail From Sneaky Shrimp Dept.:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hennix:

i thought a ban in a source engine game applies on all source engine games

On older games valve used to do engine wide bans (getting banned in cs 1.6 would ban you in team fortress classic). They don't do that anymore.

Valve has indeed changed their policy regarding VAC bans. In the past, a VAC ban was engine-wide, meaning if you were banned in one game, you were banned in all games using the same engine1. However, this is no longer the case for newer games1.

The reason for this change is not explicitly stated by Valve, but it seems to be a part of their evolving approach to handling cheating and maintaining a fair gaming environment. For instance, CS:GO, which is based on the Orange Box version of the Source engine, is now regarded independently by VAC1. This means a VAC ban in CS:GO does not affect other games, and vice versa1.

Moreover, Valve has made exceptions for bans older than five years and bans that pre-date a player’s first participation in a Valve-sponsored event2. These bans no longer disqualify a player from participating in such events2, although other consequences of a VAC ban, like loss of access to VAC-protected multiplayer servers, achievements, tradable vanity items, etc., still remain2.

This shift in policy could be seen as an attempt to balance the need for strict anti-cheat measures with the recognition that players can change over time, and past mistakes should not necessarily result in a lifetime of punishment. However, this is just speculation, as Valve has not publicly stated their reasons for these changes.

[Crispy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Kage Goomba:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crispy55:

whos is Right me or you or both of us?

Not sure why your asking questions/discussing this here when there's a dedicated board for just that with all the answers/info on how it works.

Also I failed to notice the hilarious "Advice" about formatting your PC to remove the VAC Ban....yeah good luck with that. (It won't work)

VAC Bans are for life of the account - and only once in a blue moon do they reverse one (incredibly rare)

Thanks for your input. I appreciate your patience and willingness to discuss this topic. I understand that VAC bans are indeed for the life of the account and are rarely reversed. I also agree that formatting a PC to remove a VAC ban is not a viable solution. I’m just trying to understand the nuances of how VAC bans work, and I appreciate your help in clarifying these details. Let’s continue to enjoy our gaming experiences and promote fair play. 😊