Labyrinth2 0 2024 年 1 月 4 日 下午 9:34
Anyone who still refuses to let Win 7 go are fighting a losing battle
Are you going to complain about Microsoft (ended support in 2020), Nvidia (ended support in 2021), AMD (ended support in 2021), Google (Chrome lost support in 2023), Mozilla (Firefox lost support in 2023) and Intel (ended support in 2022) for doing the same thing?

I didn't think so.

Based on the tech survey in 2023,

Win7 x32 is 0.08% of surveyed users.
Win7 x64 is 1.16% of surveyed users.

Those percentages are far too insignificant and both numbers are declining. Win10 isn't that bad, you can just turn off telemetry and some services without any issues. Do note other stores & services are also getting rid of Win7/Win8 support as well.

Lastly, The Steam TOS that YOU agreed to when creating your account clearly state that the Steam client may change system requirements over the years and demand another OS version.

So you have no case at all.

Your tantrum won't fix anything, but best of luck to you. See you again when you WILL upgrade.

PS: For those who want to argue about this being an "Update" and not an "Upgrade", this is what Microsoft stated:

"If your PC meets the minimum hardware specifications, the Windows 10 Home edition in S mode can UPGRADE to the Windows 11 Home edition in S mode. If your Windows 10 PC is running the Pro edition in S mode, you will need to switch out of S mode to UPGRADE to Windows 11 Pro."
最后由 Labyrinth2 0 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 7 日 上午 11:35
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Qbert ⭐ 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 4:21 
引用自 Rusted Droid
Steam HW survays are garbage buddy.
Your whole argument if misinformation to manipulate masses...
Okay dude :steamthumbsup:
SKARDAVNELNATE 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 4:36 
I don't consider the others like myself to be fighting a battle at all. Our systems are working and we're content with the range of things we can do with them. We aren't trying to change the mind of anyone else to get them to use Windows 7. Other people are fighting a battle, to change our minds, and to get us to use something else.
最后由 SKARDAVNELNATE 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 4:37
Takohashi 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 5:52 
引用自 Labyrinth2 0
Are you going to complain about Microsoft (ended support in 2020), Nvidia (ended support in 2021), AMD (ended support in 2021), Google (Chrome lost support in 2023), Mozilla (Firefox lost support in 2023) and Intel (ended support in 2022) for doing the same thing?
They're not complaining about the end of support or updates, they just want access to the games they've purchased.
You listed companies that have stopped supporting their products (OS, browsers, video cards, etc.), but these products continue to work.

引用自 Labyrinth2 0
Your tantrum won't fix anything, but best of luck to you. See you again when you WILL upgrade.
Well, it looks like you have tantrum.
Rusted Droid 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 6:01 
People have power and Customer is our ruler.
So please WIN7 Demand your Support you have full right for this
AlexTheRedScout 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 6:02 
引用自 Labyrinth2 0
Are you going to complain about Microsoft (ended support in 2020), Nvidia (ended support in 2021), AMD (ended support in 2021), Google (Chrome lost support in 2023), Mozilla (Firefox lost support in 2023) and Intel (ended support in 2022) for doing the same thing?

I didn't think so.

Based on the tech survey in 2023,

Win7 x32 is 0.08% of surveyed users.
Win7 x64 is 1.16% of surveyed users.

Those percentages are far too insignificant and both numbers are declining. Win10 isn't that bad, you can just turn off telemetry and some services without any issues. Do note other stores & services are also getting rid of Win7/Win8 support as well.

Lastly, The Steam TOS that YOU agreed to when creating your account clearly state that the Steam client may change system requirements over the years and demand another OS version.

So you have no case at all.

Your tantrum won't fix anything, but best of luck to you. See you again when you WILL upgrade.

PS: For those who want to argue about this being an "Update" and not an "Upgrade", this is what Microsoft stated:

"If your PC meets the minimum hardware specifications, the Windows 10 Home edition in S mode can UPGRADE to the Windows 11 Home edition in S mode. If your Windows 10 PC is running the Pro edition in S mode, you will need to switch out of S mode to UPGRADE to Windows 11 Pro."
i agree
AlexTheRedScout 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 6:03 
引用自 Rusted Droid
People have power and Customer is our ruler.
So please WIN7 Demand your Support you have full right for this
yeah and current power is not in the hands windows 7 users because they were never majority in this matter
Labyrinth2 0 2024 年 1 月 7 日 下午 10:06 
引用自 Rusted Droid
Steam HW survays are garbage buddy.
Your whole argument if misinformation to manipulate masses...
So where’s your sources? Put your money your mouth is.
People are trying to fix climate change and dumping more than a billion dollars worth of computer parts ain't gonna make it better.
andreasaspenberg575 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 1:39 
upgrading to windows 10 generates very little garbage. all you need is a disc and a product key. windows 7`s compatibility with steam went from bad to worse. yesterday i could not download and now i do not even see any icons. i have not been able to access the store for months. there is nothing wrong with my internet however but, i am unable to access the steam store wether i use steam or edge, other browsers does not work at all. i use my laptop to watch tv and that still works.
Alucard † 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 2:25 
引用自 andreasaspenberg575
upgrading to windows 10 generates very little garbage. all you need is a disc and a product key. windows 7`s compatibility with steam went from bad to worse. yesterday i could not download and now i do not even see any icons. i have not been able to access the store for months. there is nothing wrong with my internet however but, i am unable to access the steam store wether i use steam or edge, other browsers does not work at all. i use my laptop to watch tv and that still works.

Weird.
Sounds like something might be going wrong on your end specifically and not related to Valve dropping Win 7 support.

I'm still on Win 7 , all icons work fine , can download stuff just fine , Store loads and works fine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the client so far. It works the same as it always did.
最后由 Alucard † 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 2:26
Boblin the Goblin 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 4:13 
引用自 Alucard †
引用自 andreasaspenberg575
upgrading to windows 10 generates very little garbage. all you need is a disc and a product key. windows 7`s compatibility with steam went from bad to worse. yesterday i could not download and now i do not even see any icons. i have not been able to access the store for months. there is nothing wrong with my internet however but, i am unable to access the steam store wether i use steam or edge, other browsers does not work at all. i use my laptop to watch tv and that still works.

Weird.
Sounds like something might be going wrong on your end specifically and not related to Valve dropping Win 7 support.

I'm still on Win 7 , all icons work fine , can download stuff just fine , Store loads and works fine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the client so far. It works the same as it always did.
As updates happen, it will slowly stop working.
Alucard † 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 4:30 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 Alucard †

Weird.
Sounds like something might be going wrong on your end specifically and not related to Valve dropping Win 7 support.

I'm still on Win 7 , all icons work fine , can download stuff just fine , Store loads and works fine.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the client so far. It works the same as it always did.
As updates happen, it will slowly stop working.

Hence why i said "so far" ...
SeedsandPlants 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 7:51 
引用自 Elucidator
引用自 Labyrinth2 0
Based on the tech survey in 2023,

Win7 x32 is 0.08% of surveyed users.
Win7 x64 is 1.16% of surveyed users.

Those percentages are far too insignificant and both numbers are declining.
Considering we have exceeded 8 billion people, 1.16% is at least 9280000 PCs

Where are you going to keep the mountain of 9 million motherboards?
Also you diffidently don't want to burn it, because there are enough precious metals in there such as copper and gold.
What about the 9 million Power Supply Units? Do you have any idea how much copper that is?

Insignificant...
that really depends on the scale.

I think for 9 million pcs, you can create multiple piles of landfil that takes in enough area that could otherwise be used to build city blocks.

Your concern for these metals and minerals is well-educated. I'd like to split hairs about the numbers. It probably is 9 million. But not all 8,000,000,000 or even half than number have access to a computer. I assume you already know this.

If you really care, either take in old computers from stores, or online. Also, there is a great recycling company, I think it's called ERI, electronic recycling international.

Also, look into Linux, it can still run on a couple hundred megabytes of memory, and is the operating system used on the NASA ISS, and the voyager spacecraft, I know because nasa used Linux to send linux commands to the ssatellites.

Linux is also used to serve this webpage, and the steam servers, and your mobile phone uses either BSD, open-source, but closed-source, by Apple, UNIX, or it uses Linux. All top 500 supercomputers use Linux. It used to be a few, literally, maybe three Windows supercomputers, no idea what those idiots were thinking. Linux has far better performance scaling, as it can be cotfigured to do so, and as needed by the hardware setup. Movie studios use Linux for the video and grapdics rendering, with large groups of computers connected together. Last, but not least, Microsoft has a cloud service called Azure.

Azure runs 50-60% open-source software, by the users. And Microsoft has their own Linux system called CBL-Mariner now at 2.0

So if you care about electronic waste, cowputers, environwental health and, keeping game history accessible and not hindered by proprietary systems, start using Linux. You can download it in the Microsoft store, or download Virtualbox and run it there, without having to reboot first.
最后由 SeedsandPlants 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 7:53
antoca 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 9:01 
I continue to use win7 only, and I'm proud of that.
Mr Cook 2024 年 1 月 8 日 上午 9:52 
I keep active a winxp machine, and even a win95 machine, for specific hardware. I also have old versions of bsd and linux still running.

Make an effort to convince me to drop 'em.

Hint:
I won't.

Telling ppl that using something that works for them is a losing battle, is just a clueless bs argument.
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