What A Joke

[ArcTheWolf]

The Steam Awards this year is an absolute joke, either voters don't know what Labor of Love means, or this is just some giant trolling effort. You're telling me a game that hasn't received an update in a year and a half, and still to this day has game breaking bugs in single player and multiplayer is worthy of Labor of Love? Are you guys smoking crack or something? Meanwhile Deep Rock Galactic has been nominated for Labor of Love 3 years in a row. Has never locked new weapons, game modes, or maps behind a paywall. Has done so well by the game and community that players literally asked how can we give you more money because you deserve it. So what did they do they made Supporter Pack 2 because everyone wanted to give them more money.

Don't even get me started on Starfield winning Innovative Gameplay, the only thing Starfield was innovative about was copy pasting the same modular based dungeons on every planet and somehow finding a way to still be a beyond buggy mess despite constant delays and Microsoft funding. If you landed on one planet you may as well have landed on them all. There aren't even any hyperspace jumps, you land on a planet by clicking a button and it does a fade to black, they can't even show the ship properly landing or leaving. I chalk this up to the people voting for Starfield because they have never played a space game period so they think Starfield is some marvel because they have no experience with how great space games can be.

Hell look at any other space game out there, Elite Dangerous has more space mechanics in it and that's just a soulless money grab at this point. No Man's Sky way more innovative than Starfield and not a single expansion locked behind a pay wall and that's been around since 2016 and has more innovation then Starfield by a mile. Hell even Star Citizen has more innovation in it than Starfield and that's an alpha build with some things in a beta stage with the same amount of bugs as a typical Bethesda full release but at least it looks great and is unique and truly innovative compared to Starfield. There's just no way people actually thought these games were worthy of these awards.

[zero254]

Sucks

[vkobe]

Ursprungligen skrivet av wildride:

The problem is that they were probably the most deserving out of the nominations, I mean we got games in early access that are nominated. Starfields only competition was Revenant 2. I havent played Revenant as not my kinda game. But I imagine they had just about the same innovation between 1 and 2 as Starfield had from prior bethesda titles.

I think the only reason RDR2 and Starfield had a shot at those is because BG3 was excluded from them, otherwise it wouldve taken both as it is most deserving.

bg3 will won all steam award, not only labor and innovative

[Ionut Catalin Frasineanu]

Ursprungligen skrivet av morrisseyshair:

Gamers are the dumbest people in the universe.

Then why are you here?????

[teh]

i think that team fortress 2 should have gotten the labor of love award

[Mic Robo]

I think RDR2 getting "Labor of Love" is pretty funny, but I agree that an actually deserving game should have won. Starfield getting "Most Innovative" just pisses me off and makes me wish Bethesda gave a ♥♥♥♥ still.

[ErrantOverflow]

Ursprungligen skrivet av BJWyler:

Except they don't need to be, and really can't be.

I don't share that pessimism.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crazy Tiger:

Ursprungligen skrivet av ErrantOverflow:

We care because it has the chance to be so much more than that.

As long as the results are the way you want them.

Dogsh*t take, bait used to be believable

[ErrantOverflow]

Ursprungligen skrivet av wildride:

The problem is that they were probably the most deserving out of the nominations, I mean we got games in early access that are nominated. Starfields only competition was Revenant 2. I havent played Revenant as not my kinda game. But I imagine they had just about the same innovation between 1 and 2 as Starfield had from prior bethesda titles.

I think the only reason RDR2 and Starfield had a shot at those is because BG3 was excluded from them, otherwise it wouldve taken both as it is most deserving.

Perhaps you should look at the other nominees for most innovative a bit closer, instead of making those assumptions.

[Lystent]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Kyle Crane:

Indeed. Labor of love should have been won by Grim Dawn, Quake 2 or even Dying Light 2 in my opinion. I like RDP2, I bought a copy of the game for my nephews, but still this was undeserved.

My vote would've been Terraria, except nothing dropped last year, which disqualifies it through my interpretation of the criteria.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ErrantOverflow:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crazy Tiger:

As long as the results are the way you want them.

Dogsh*t take, bait used to be believable

Hits too close to home, I know. But reality is that people don't like the results and therefore want to adjust how things work or what meaning it has to get closer to the results one wants to see.

I think it's a good laugh that a Bethesda title wins an innovation award and I certainly wouldn't have expected it. But if the community wants to vote for a popular title by a big publisher in a popularity contest, that's fine by me. But I generally have no issue with trivial things like awards not having the results that I agree with.

[Crazy Tiger]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lystent:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Kyle Crane:

Indeed. Labor of love should have been won by Grim Dawn, Quake 2 or even Dying Light 2 in my opinion. I like RDP2, I bought a copy of the game for my nephews, but still this was undeserved.

My vote would've been Terraria, except nothing dropped last year, which disqualifies it through my interpretation of the criteria.

Terraria is a past winner, so they cannot win the Labor of Love award again.

[Lystent]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crazy Tiger:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lystent:

My vote would've been Terraria, except nothing dropped last year, which disqualifies it through my interpretation of the criteria.

Terraria is a past winner, so they cannot win the Labor of Love award again.

I wasn't aware that they won before. Now I got to think harder about the games in my library that are left. I haven't played DRG in some time, and NMS, as much as they have been building into it, feels like it is held together by duct tape and bubble gum. And Astroneer... what is up with Astroneer...


Edit: wait, didn't they lose out on that award more recently?

[Crazy Tiger]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lystent:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crazy Tiger:

Terraria is a past winner, so they cannot win the Labor of Love award again.

I wasn't aware that they won before. Now I got to think harder about the games in my library that are left. I haven't played DRG in some time, and NMS, as much as they have been building into it, feels like it is held together by duct tape and bubble gum. And Astroneer... what is up with Astroneer...


Edit: wait, didn't they lose out on that award more recently?

Terraria won it in 2021: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/105600/view/3131689217797601169

NMS and DRG have lost in the "finals" a few times now. Not sure about Astroneer.

[Lystent]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crazy Tiger:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Lystent:

I wasn't aware that they won before. Now I got to think harder about the games in my library that are left. I haven't played DRG in some time, and NMS, as much as they have been building into it, feels like it is held together by duct tape and bubble gum. And Astroneer... what is up with Astroneer...


Edit: wait, didn't they lose out on that award more recently?

Terraria won it in 2021: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/105600/view/3131689217797601169

NMS and DRG have lost in the "finals" a few times now. Not sure about Astroneer.

I figured out that I was thinking about 2020 when CS:GO won.

Edit: also, Astroneer seems like it might be too niche to make it to the finals, but IDK for sure.

[ErrantOverflow]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Crazy Tiger:

Ursprungligen skrivet av ErrantOverflow:

Dogsh*t take, bait used to be believable

Hits too close to home, I know. But reality is that people don't like the results and therefore want to adjust how things work or what meaning it has to get closer to the results one wants to see.

I think it's a good laugh that a Bethesda title wins an innovation award and I certainly wouldn't have expected it. But if the community wants to vote for a popular title by a big publisher in a popularity contest, that's fine by me. But I generally have no issue with trivial things like awards not having the results that I agree with.

I would be okay with the results if people actually bothered to do some basic research with the finalists and formed an actual informed opinion, so I think labeling my opinion as simply "not liking the results" is overly reductive and missing the point.

A company as big as Valve can certainly spare the resources to figure out how to make something like this work, and if they can't be bothered then they should not make them in the first place, let alone repeat the same mistakes year after year.

[Lystent]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ErrantOverflow:

...A company as big as Valve can certainly spare the resources to figure out how to make something like this work, and if they can't be bothered then they should not make them in the first place, let alone repeat the same mistakes year after year.

If other Steam developments have told me one thing, it is that Valve will put in less resource than one would expect them to.