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edit : ignored games and their screenshots still appear in the trend page, they are just in white with a warning, they are even more obvious this way (which is kinda counter-productive while the screenshots are still shown from the main steam store page without even blurring) ; and I will have to get cautious for more....because nothing prevents other companies to do the same. I'm very grateful for your help, yet I feel like I have to fight the UI in order to get something looking more or less like the expected result from afar....it's so Valve in a nutshell. Functionalities half working (until next updates that might break it), and then you got to fight the UI to get it do half what it was promising to do.
I'm a long time Valve (and Steam) fan. But I'm kinda tired. Tired to fight with Steam UI since decades, tired to get used to a functionality, spend hours configurating it and then it is suddenly removed, tired to take time to learn and use something and see it all ruined by an update. Tired to fight with my Steam Deck to do basic functions with it, while even the Gaming mode does not fully work. Tired of checking if my 12 years old game get an update to add a DRM to it, while there were none before. Tired of ♥♥♥♥ flash games everywhere and hentai "let's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in my little underage sister's panties while she sleeps" that make the Steam store look like indiegala crossover onlyfan, even after I filtered adult content.
Gabe Newell was SO right when he said piracy is a service problem. I followed him for long, and spent ton of money on his vision. But the more it goes, the more the very same service that attracted me in the first place is pushing me away.
There is still GOG, I guess, that might be my last stopover before going back to the high seas.
I'm so tired of it all. And I never joined Steam and invested so much time and money on it suspecting I would have to spend extra time to filter, then check games one by one despite the filter, to see if it was about incestuous pedophilia or not.
I would have not joined Steam in the first place decades ago if I knew that. I don't know if I would join today. Now I feel kinda trapped because of my huge library on it.
Literally, no one else care what it looks like to you. Filter based on actual reality, that you can sit down and read, not on your made up interpretation of it.
Be warned, GOG sells Kagura Games titles too: and unlike Steam, they offer the patch on GOG itself, no need to go to Kagura Games' site at all. And many AO games from Steam made their way to GOG as well.
The more Steam changes its policies, the more I feel like a prisoner. The Steam store disappoints me more and more (and it's not only about ♥♥♥♥ games), but I'm already glued to my Steam account through 2 thousand games...I just can't get rid of Steam overnight as I would with GOG. That's why I'm more and more concerned about the way Steam changes again and again in directions I don't like. And when Gabe will die, it will be worse.
Witcher and Mass Effect are "Mature" titles. Not "Adults only", so turning filter off won't affect them.
I don't understand. It's not like these games come at the expense of the choices you already have. The developing and publishing of adult games does in no way reduce the amount of choices you have. Just gotta learn to accept that things which don't fit your preferences exist.
You don't understand because you don't mind. One day, it will happen about something you mind, then you will understand, even if it does not reduce how wide your choice is.
When I joined Steam, spent a huge amount of time and money on Valve while gluing me to them, it was a ♥♥♥♥-free platform, and a ♥♥♥♥-free policy - and they were kinda strict about it. Of course, internet being the internet, people were constantly putting weird pictures on the Left 4 Dead 2's ingame walls for fun, but that was it. Steam was a ♥♥♥♥-free platform when I joined. I would honestly not have joined the Steam store if it was back in the day in the state it is today.
I am an atheist. And a man, who once was a boy, a boy with a laptop and internet, and I consumed huge amount of ♥♥♥♥. Yet I do not want it on my gaming platform. Even more if it's mixed with the rest. They could have done an "adult" sub-category of the store, as there is an "adult" area in your library, apart from the rest. But here it's all melted, everything's polluted, and their filter don't work. I don't want to navigate through ♥♥♥♥ on my gaming store, my gaming software, I don't want to see ♥♥♥♥ pop up as I launch my computer. As I don't want ♥♥♥♥ in my supermarket while I'm searching for vegetables, even if you indeed can do crazy things with vegetables.
I'm tired. There is SO MANY things I have to check before buying a game in this day and age I didn't have to check back in the day. I have to check if it requires an internet connexion. I have to check if there is an hidden DRM, or if the company that publishes it has the habit of adding DRMs years after. Is this a GaaS ? If it's a multiplayer game, I have to check it there is bots or not - will the game be playable once the main server shut down, is there local or direct connection multiplayer ? If it's a solo game, is the ending available through a separate DLC ? NFT maybe ? Is this filled with politics ? Is the game finished, or is this an early access that does not presents itself as one ? I am already tired I have to check for extra-DRMs and so many things before I buy a game. Now having to search if it's about masturbating in your little sister's pants while she sleeps or not is one step too much for me.
The more time goes, the more the Steam store looks like a trash bin. And it's not only about ♥♥♥♥.
If tomorrow Valve decide to suddenly sell thousands of videos of people farting because some crazy tiktoker thinks it's some kind of healthy ASMR and there is a public for that, good for them, and it does not reduce my choice. But I don't want to see people farting contest when I launch my gaming software and store either.
Amazon is polluted as hell, but I'm not overwhelmed by ♥♥♥♥ when I launch it to buy some sheets. Here I come for Mass Effect, I end navigating through hentai. I would have never glued myself to Valve if I knew it would become like this.
I joined Valve on a path they decided themselves. Not because Gabe is charming and all, but because I liked that path, and I joined them for that path alone. It's their plain right to decide to deviate from that path, but it's easier for them to do than it is for me to continue walking on it on my own, once I'm tied to their system through their DRM. That's why I'm thinking about GOG. At least I can dump them whenever I want if I'm not satisfied anymore. Here I'm hooked like a fish, and then I'm in prison. That whole story reminds me how uncertain and fragile this digital age is. Companies are not your friends, never tie yourself to them and all, I knew it but I was so confident about Valve I did an "all in" on them. Stupid of me, I know.
Most of all, this radical change of policies of Valve reminds me how much I can't trust them for investing time and money on them. I shouldn't have in the first place, of silly of me. And it's just one of the MANY things that makes me more and more dissatisfied with their service.
I have tons of complains with the UI. Back in the day, I spend hours (days ?) of my free time to categorize my huge collection of games ; I have hundreds of categories, by gameplay, by atmosphere, by console it's been ported to and so, so many others. It was a pain to craft, and it was not always funny to have to carefully categorize each new game I bought, but in the end it was insanely rewarding and a joy to use because back in the day we have the ability to "cross-search" different categories. I could search, among my games, "action-adventure" + "pirates" + "unfinished". Cross-searching was AWESOME when you had a huge backlog. Of course the desktop Steam allowed that. Even the broken-and-abandoned-for-long Big Picture allowed such kind of search ! It was so useful I added many non-steam games and tons of roms, each one of them categorized, to use Steam as my main gaming software through this single functionality. But with the "new" (it's old now) UI, cross-searching among your categories is gone. ♥♥♥♥ it.
Last week, I spent hours fighting against the Steam Deck UI to make my EmulationStation setup work again after an update broke it all, encountering more and more basic functionalities not working even in gaming mode along the way, it was gold comedy. I also remember that changing the private group chat pictures was broken for YEARS. Valve is not reliable. Not in their policy. Not in their work. Their software invites you to use a functionality and customize it to death, you spend hours doing it, and then they remove it. Even when they advertised the Deck, they marketed everything around "customize everything, it's your own", they invite you to mess with things, and then they ruin it all if you dare using anything else than the most core and basic functionalities. You can't count on them for long term. They don't protect us when companies decide to add DRMs to decade years old games that were without DRM before. I was one of Steam's most intense fanboys. I don't trust them that much anymore. There is SO MANY little things I'm dissatisfied with.
♥♥♥♥ is just one of them, symptomatic of it all. Making Steam even more a mess than it already is. And as the rest, it's just half-baked.
I would not join Steam today. But I have two thousand games on there. ♥♥♥♥ I'm trapped.
Please apologize my english by the way. This is good practice for me, but I bet it must be filled of grammatical horrors, misspelled words and other errors that I was unable to detect.
The first three or four tags are usually kinda accurate. But beyond that, it's wild west.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1332010/Stray/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1249040/American_Arcadia/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151340/Fallout_76/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1746860/The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Skyrim_Anniversary_Upgrade/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/865360/We_Were_Here_Together/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/960990/Beyond_Two_Souls/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/465170/Crime_Secrets_Crimson_Lily/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/476600/Call_of_Duty_WWII/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/839770/Phoenix_Point/
Oh, this one is a good horror game indeed :
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1454400/Cookie_Clicker/
All in all, the system is flawed but still works.
I have no issue with ♥♥♥♥ games if they bump on recommendation.
Seeing the clear ♥♥♥♥♥♥ act Giphy on recommendation is something that I
didn't expect from Steam. Seriously. I am not a saint, but this was my haven
"steam" tension release. It's an innocent place where you go to open games
and enjoy community.
It is sad to see that Stem has lost its innocence in some way.
I have been here since 2006. This was my haven of rest from the degeneration of the world.
It's ruined.
I would never recommend fathers to allow their sons to open Steam accounts after I
saw litreral penetration giphy ON STEAM.
We saw "Just a Friends" crap on a Twitch full of kids, and now Steam.
Sorry for being dramatic.
It's not about the filters, damn it.
I am sad to see this sh. on Steam. That's all.
God bless, guys. Don't hate me. I said what's on my heart.
What stopping your kids from viewing content on the INTERNET, you know that very same INTERNET that you surf on for years... Not just that but the fact Steam has a lot of dark, and gory stuff as well even BEFORE Steam allows adult content let that sit for a moment, maybe need to put thought into this, and no this isn't to justify it to wake you up should've realize been in front of you for long time.
Anyways you figure out how to use parental control someday, and maybe monitor your kid from time to time as wouldn't kill to do that being a parent.
Haha it's true there is trolling, but not only, I think. Some "hack & slash" games are not "hack & slash" at all, but you are indeed killing people so...many gamers do not really know what a "hack & slash" is. Same for adventure games and action-adventure games, most don't even know the difference. Horror games, well...I guess Skyrim is trolling haha, but Crime Secrets: Crimson Lily, while being a very cute mobile hidden object game targeted to cozy mystery female audiences, there is indeed a killer you're searching so....I think I remember there is some worrying objects to find in the hidden object scenes...such as spiders webs (among toothbrush, necklaces, cute mouses and not-so-worrying stuff). I guess for some people, it counts as horror game as it has some elements that you could find in a horror movie ? Same for "we were here together". It's NOTHING horror but you're isolated on a weird place so...in Stray, there is a few levels in which you are chased by cute little creatures that want to hurt you....so it's horror ? I'm sure today, Heart of Darkness would be qualified as horror because it has some violent deaths, even if it's a child's game and shares nothing about the horror games gameplay-wise (or even thematic and atmosphere-wise).
Same logic for Subnautica. It's not an horror game by any means. But you can indeed feel terrified in deep sea where there is a big fish wanting to hurt you so...horror game, ok ! If it has some or even one single level that might be a little scary, then it's an horror game for people.
Bioshock is tagged as horror for the same reason. Death Stranding also. Danganronpa...it's by no means an horror game, but you can understand why some gamers called it horror. It's not an horror game, but if it was a movie, depending on how it is adapted, it could indeed be (or not) an horror movie...
Metal Gear Solid V has the Heist tag...but again, I understand where it's coming from. But if I don't want to see Heist games and filter them, I will filter MGSV, which is kinda crazy.
The problem is nobody is able to correctly tag the games nowadays. Not the community - there is newcomers everyday that do not know at all what they're tagging, and that repeat some of their elder's mistakes ; there's trolling but tons of honest mistakes and misleading tags that ruins the concept of filtering.
Not the devs or publishers themselves. Because the people putting the games out there are usually not the devs when it's big projects. So many times, marketing people was out of touch with what they were selling. And when it's indies....well, indies don't usually know better than the community. Their own tags would be sometimes weird at best.
Steam should be the ones doing it. As a good librarian knows its stuff and order it well. We have a huge library in my town, one of the biggest in whole Europe, I'm always amazed when I enter a specific area, I can ask anything and the guy or girl knows it all as if he had a computer in the brain, and how well maintained the whole building is, how much it is in order despite the thousands of people entering it and messing with it all.
But there is too much games and you can't ask Valve to be organized as a great library would be. They can't even correctly categorize their steam deck compatibility list when it's their own testing on their own device, with their own rules.
I don't think the system works very much, because I never dare to filter any tag because I knew games I would like would fall into this category. When long time users fear to use a functionality because they know it would not work properly, I don't feel this is a very good sign.
I suppose there is "Genre" which is a "Dominant" tag, and then there are "vibe" tags. It depends on how the system is being used.
Stray is an interesting case study, given those "cute" creatures you referenced do seem to be a "cuter" form of Zombie Zerglings. You go from a safe zone, out into an apocalyptic zombie zone with a handful of horrific creatures.
Stray doesn't have your typical "Adventure Game" melee combat of say Zelda, or "Beyond Good and Evil", etc. It has interactions with NPCs in safe zones, fetch quests, trade sequences, and some minimal puzzle solving. Outside of a "safe zone" you are usually just trying to survive while being chased, so there is minimal exploration. It is a very short game, only about 6 hours or so.
Back to the trolling, well I did come across some examples:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2008410/Garfield_Lasagna_Party/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/332260/DisneyPixar_Cars_MaterNational_Championship/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/340990/Disney_Bolt/?curator_clanid=43053403
I at first wondered whether some of the tags might have been added as a result of poor user content moderation, given a "critical mass" of reports has to be reached before moderation takes place. Some of the tags seem bizarre even when considering such a possibility.