Why does Valve allows cheats?

[pagozh]

in particular from certain nations? And do nothing?
Ruining the gameplay of about 90% of their players?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Rusian ebat tregarez:

Why does Valve allows cheats?

in particular from certain nations? And do nothing?
Ruining the gameplay of about 90% of their players?

They don't.

[DarkCrystalMethod]

I'm just waiting for the day when Valve can tell the difference between an external tool (SAM) and the game legit claiming an achievement.
Those tears will be delicious.

[potato]

where do they allow cheats? show me steam documentation stating so

[potato]

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:

I'm just waiting for the day when Valve can tell the difference between an external tool (SAM) and the game legit claiming an achievement.
Those tears will be delicious.

they already can, they just don't care cause achievements are worthless

[SoundOfDarkness]

You are allowed to cheat all you want in singleplayer games.

[BJWyler]

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:

I'm just waiting for the day when Valve can tell the difference between an external tool (SAM) and the game legit claiming an achievement.
Those tears will be delicious.

Just to note:
there are a myriad of ways that achievements can be obtained other than just the use of SAM:
-Have a friend or family member help or complete the achievement for you.
-Edit the game files.
-Use someone else's game save file.
-Use a dev console or cheat codes.
-Take advantage of in game mechanics or features to bypass the "normal" route.
-Exploit bugs.
-Mods - either external or from the Steam Workshop
-Multi-boxing
-Win Trading
-Achievement servers
-Steam Console

Take note of that last one. Valve has built into Steam itself the same ability SAM has in manipulating achievements, so it's pretty much a non-issue for them.

[MrDammit]

Those cheaters are viewed as paying costumers in the boardroom. Valve is providing a market for that revenue stream flow in. A hacked account that's active makes more $ then an abandoned one.
Also, I HATE cheats...

[Reggaejunkiedrew]

They don't, but what they do do is ban in waves. People using cheats often use multiple. If they are banned immediately its much easier for both the cheater, and the developer of the cheats to potentially reverse engineer the anti cheat. Banning in waves makes this much more difficult to do.

[HikariLight]

No game development company can stop cheaters.
Cheaters will always find a way to cheat, simply because they want to get ahead by any means.
Also there is no such thing as a perfect anti cheat.
Cheaters have to cheat first before the system can catch them and ban them.
Also the anti cheat systems need samples of the cheats to know what to look for.

[MeowDread]

Originally posted by DarkCrystalMethod:

I'm just waiting for the day when Valve can tell the difference between an external tool (SAM) and the game legit claiming an achievement.
Those tears will be delicious.

That seems like it won't be very viable

For example, if a anti-SAM tried to detect on achievement get date, then those who mostly play offline could get banned since achievements all get unlocked at the same time after going online, at least thats what i remember now. Someone correct me if its been changed or im misremembering.

Then again, there could be other ways to detect SAM

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by SoundOfDarkness:

You are allowed to cheat all you want in singleplayer games.

That's incorrect actually. If you read the SSA, that you agreed to when you created the account, you are not allowed to cheat at all.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#4

[MeowDread]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by SoundOfDarkness:

You are allowed to cheat all you want in singleplayer games.

That's incorrect actually. If you read the SSA, that you agreed to when you created the account, you are not allowed to cheat at all.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#4

technically, cheats are allowed via mods, cheat engine in singleplayer-only games and also built in cheats (like the source engine console)

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originally posted by dominikrni:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

That's incorrect actually. If you read the SSA, that you agreed to when you created the account, you are not allowed to cheat at all.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#4

technically, cheats are allowed via mods, cheat engine in singleplayer-only games and also built in cheats (like the source engine console)

If you use Cheat Engine to cheat in a VAC enabled game, on a VAC protected server, guess what happens?

The account gets a VAC ban.

[Kiryn]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by dominikrni:

technically, cheats are allowed via mods, cheat engine in singleplayer-only games and also built in cheats (like the source engine console)

If you use Cheat Engine to cheat in a VAC enabled game, on a VAC protected server, guess what happens?

The account gets a VAC ban.

Are there many VAC-enabled single-player games?

[MeowDread]

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by dominikrni:

technically, cheats are allowed via mods, cheat engine in singleplayer-only games and also built in cheats (like the source engine console)

If you use Cheat Engine to cheat in a VAC enabled game, on a VAC protected server, guess what happens?

The account gets a VAC ban.

Singleplayer games do not use VAC protected servers.