Valve's 30% cut and their inability to maintain their best Steam features are disappointing!

[Mulyono]

- No longer support Windows 7.

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Mallboro:

Valve's 30% cut and their inability to maintain their best Steam features are disappointing!

- No longer support Windows 7.

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

Just like all the older OSs before 7 and ones on Mac.

Backup feature is still there, just individually now.

This version doesn't support the old skinning.

Steam Deck sales are great, yes. That's not a bad thing. Advertising Valve's own products on their store is bad, how?

The VAC forum disagrees with that statement.

And not all devs/pubs have 70/30 cut. Some get more.

[Xautos]

Another windows 7 user will be going down with the ship it seems. oh well.
That by the way is not a Valve problem, it's a Microsoft problem.

[Lithurge]

Originally posted by Mallboro:

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

There's a certain level of irony to this.

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Mallboro:

- No longer support Windows 7.

Valve is just one of many companies beginning the trend away from Windows 7. It's a dead OS. You either need to come to grips with it, or be prepared to take on maintaining it all by yourself with workarounds and hacks to keep any modern service still functional on your system. It's an evolutionary progression that's been going on for decades now since the first version of Windows and will continue.

Originally posted by Mallboro:

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

Optical storage is also a dead format. You can get far more denser options for less price with portable SSD or high capacity USB drives with better compatibility. I still love my CDs and 4k UHD Blurays, but for backup purposes it's obsolete. Steam's servers are the backup choice when bandwidth allows for it. For offline backup, go with SSD.

Originally posted by Mallboro:

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

Realistically, skin support was not always really supported. It was a nice-to-have but wasn't popular enough to keep baked into the new client. Perhaps we'll see it come back once the devs feel the client is matured enough, but I doubt we'll see it soon. I also imagine a lot of the problems people opened Support tickets about were because of changes being made that were incompatible with the skins. With skins eliminated, it simplifies any troubleshooting with everyone meant to see the same client layout/look.

Originally posted by Mallboro:

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

VAC bans are always delayed to prevent detection routines from being discovered. So, yes, there could be a cheater who shouldn't be playing because of an as-yet-imposed VAC ban. However, VAC bans still catch a lot of cheaters. The VAC Discussion forum never slows down from getting new posts from players wanting their VAC bans removed.

Also, the mere presence of a cheater doesn't mean that cheaters aren't getting banned. There is no 100% effective process to keep a cheater from playing a game. Do you think every person that breaks the law is getting caught? That every speeder gets a ticket, or every murder is successfully solved? People break rules all of the time.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Skin support was broken even before they removed it. Also, complaining about Valve advertising their own hardware on their own store, is laughable, period.

[Crazy Tiger]

None of those are what I would consider "best" features.

Not sure what the cut has to do with it anyway. That's something between game devs/publishers and the store, it doesn't concern me in any way. I know people claim that a lower cut will lead to cheaper and better games, but that's a song and dance I've been hearing since we still used cartridges and it's never been true.

[Satoru]

https://youtu.be/n50Rqxd47qQ?si=wy6pNzuc3Fy8D95q

There's a reason why literally no one in the past decade has ever used the CD/DVD file splitting feature

Games are now basically at the point where archiving them onto DVD is literally impossible anyway. The 'splitting' feauture was relevant back when the feature was initially intorduces literally 15 years ago. Today that kind of thing is irrelevant. When was the last time anyone used WinRARs file splitting feature

[Heraclius Caesar]

Originally posted by Mallboro:

- No longer support Windows 7.

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

No one is being forced to use Steam. If you don't like it, you're free to use other storefronts/platforms and never bother with Steam again.

[Wolfpig]

Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

Most games do not even fit on a CD/DVD anymore, so why would valve keep those pre-defined size options in it?
You can still create a backup of the gamefiles but are not forced anymore to choose on what size it must fit, but can decide after it got created where you want to store it.

Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

No one is being forced to use Steam.

Expect in the case that the game you want to play is only available on steam........;)

[ReBoot]

Feel free to take your money somewhere else, you aren't obliged, morally nor legally, to drop money on Steam.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by Satoru:

Games are now basically at the point where archiving them onto DVD is literally impossible anyway.

Imagine wanting to backup Warzone and burning the whooping ammount of 40 DVDs.

I know old-gamer nostalgia is a thing, but having to swap your drive 40 times to install a game is not something to be nostalgic about.

I probably haven't burned a CD or DVD in a decade. I have an old BR/DVDburner drive that has gone through 3 computer upgrades and I'm not even sure if it works of how little use it has had.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Win10 is hitting the same wall as Win7...

[lolschrauber]

Windows 7 is not really an argument. Companies eventually drop support for old operating Systems. It's always been like that in the industry whether you like it or not. The amount of users gets lower and lower, security standards drop and it's just extra work. I'm also certain you don't complain to Microsoft for dropping support on 7.

Do you actually care that steam and games do not work on Windows 95 anymore? Why don't you advocate for that? Maybe someone out there wants to keep using that!

[Mulyono]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by Satoru:

Games are now basically at the point where archiving them onto DVD is literally impossible anyway.

Imagine wanting to backup Warzone and burning the whooping ammount of 40 DVDs.

I know old-gamer nostalgia is a thing, but having to swap your drive 40 times to install a game is not something to be nostalgic about.

I probably haven't burned a CD or DVD in a decade. I have an old BR/DVDburner drive that has gone through 3 computer upgrades and I'm not even sure if it works of how little use it has had.

I still burned indies game or any game that under 5GB... :/ I have my own steam backup cabinet where i put em on CD's and my own hdd/ssd storage for bigger game backup, it seem i can't saving above 5GB game on seprate dvd anymore

[rawWwRrr]

Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:

None of those are what I would consider "best" features.

Not sure what the cut has to do with it anyway. That's something between game devs/publishers and the store, it doesn't concern me in any way. I know people claim that a lower cut will lead to cheaper and better games, but that's a song and dance I've been hearing since we still used cartridges and it's never been true.

That was Epic's original lie to attract gamers. If they charged a smaller cut, those savings would get passed down to the consumer. Then all those exclusive games all had the regular AAA prices. Odd how those savings never came to fruition. Just a higher profit margin for the publisher.