Valve's 30% cut and their inability to maintain their best Steam features are disappointing!

[Mulyono]

- No longer support Windows 7.

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- No longer support Windows 7.

Steam doesn't own windows 7, Microsoft does know the difference. If you want to bark for why most companies dropping windows 7 that Microsoft they drop it because only they can maintain it to keep going, but chooses not to hence EOL & ESU.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

You do realize it just a zip folder right???

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

You can still change skins, the problem fail to understand the OLD SKINS are base on OLD SHELL, Steam drop old shell, this doesn't stop you from editing Steam skin at all, it that most people choose not to make effort to do skin anymore while knowing they was gonna go full CEF, dropping the old shell.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

Which is it, you want people to smurf, or you want them to deal with people trying to smurf? Can't have it both ways lol.

[76561199540158642]

all of these replies are fake, don't believe them all of these users are linked together by friends lists, and try to form some weird narrative on the steam forum.

this place is empty real users are far and few.

OP you are simply being attacked for your opinion by steams own "employee based users"

this joke of a platform contains countless threads like this by steam operated account replies that attempt to discredit and insult real steam users.


OP you are correct it is a absolute shame that this is what steam has become. do yourself a favor and question what platforms you invest your time or money into, choose wisely.

don't allow systematic brainwashing and verbal abuse of malicious accounts to impede your judgment, keep posting as you see things, i find your topic refreshing.

[Haruspex]

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

Valve's 30% cut and their inability to maintain their best Steam features are disappointing!

30% has been the industry standard forever, and was never a discussion before Tim Sweeney made it one as part of his effort to monopolize PC gaming. There's also a lot of hypocrisy there, with Epic saying 30% on consoles is fine because they make hardware, even though Valve also makes hardware and Nintendo consoles are sold at a profit.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- No longer support Windows 7.

Yeah, or Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows 98, or Windows 95. Windows 7 hasn't received a security update since January of 2020. Move along.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

The backup feature is still there, it works fine, and you can store the backup files on whatever media you want including optical disks. I have no idea what you're going on about here.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

Like Windows 7 support, I think far fewer people used this feature than you think. If this weren't the case, I don't think they would have removed it. It's not entirely lost though. We may see it come back in an either official or unofficial capacity, and SteamOS has a CSS loader available to load custom themes.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

There was a massive ban wave against smurf accounts this month. It was all over the gaming news. DOTA 2 players all got a Christmas present. Nice players got cosmetics and stuff. Naughty players got a permanent game ban.

[Zoey.]

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

Valve's 30% cut and their inability to maintain their best Steam features are disappointing!

Sounds like an average Epig Gaуmes user would say. GOG, Microsoft, Sony, Apple, and Google take 30%. Plus, if the game is sold well, the cut Valve will get will be reduced to 25% and eventually 20%

[76561199540158642]

ReBoot님이 먼저 게시:

Feel free to take your money somewhere else, you aren't obliged, morally nor legally, to drop money on Steam.

this is the best opinion i have seen on this thread

[Crazy Tiger]

rawWwRrr님이 먼저 게시:

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

None of those are what I would consider "best" features.

Not sure what the cut has to do with it anyway. That's something between game devs/publishers and the store, it doesn't concern me in any way. I know people claim that a lower cut will lead to cheaper and better games, but that's a song and dance I've been hearing since we still used cartridges and it's never been true.

That was Epic's original lie to attract gamers. If they charged a smaller cut, those savings would get passed down to the consumer. Then all those exclusive games all had the regular AAA prices. Odd how those savings never came to fruition. Just a higher profit margin for the publisher.

I know. As said, that song and dance has happened a few times already. It's nothing new and merely marketing talk.

I just don't get why people care about the cut that much when it doesn't get passed down to us gamers/consumers.

People should simply drop the stupid launcher loyalty/hatred. Though to be fair, I don't get that loyalty/hatred either.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Kirby_Krabs님이 먼저 게시:

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

Valve's 30% cut and their inability to maintain their best Steam features are disappointing!

Sounds like an average Epig Gaуmes user would say. GOG, Microsoft, Sony, Apple, and Google take 30%. Plus, if the game is sold well, the cut Valve will get will be reduced to 25% and eventually 20%

I think GoG starts at 25%.

[Haruspex]

Golden Unicorn님이 먼저 게시:

all of these replies are fake, don't believe them all of these users are linked together by friends lists, and try to form some weird narrative on the steam forum.

this place is empty real users are far and few.

OP you are simply being attacked for your opinion by steams own "employee based users"

this joke of a platform contains countless threads like this by steam operated account replies that attempt to discredit and insult real steam users.


OP you are correct it is a absolute shame that this is what steam has become. do yourself a favor and question what platforms you invest your time or money into, choose wisely.

don't allow systematic brainwashing and verbal abuse of malicious accounts to impede your judgment, keep posting as you see things, i find your topic refreshing.

Yes. We am not real. In fact, I think OP may actually be a plant too written by AI, throwing out a little counter-narrative to make the fake forums seem more realistic. The first version of the Matrix was a perfect utopia and the human minds rejected it. You have to have an imperfect simulation to make it believable.

Wake up Neo! There is no spoon! Follow the white rabbit.

[wesnef]

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

I just don't get why people care about the cut that much when it doesn't get passed down to us gamers/consumers.

It's the thought that supporting the publishers & devs will keep them from going under, and keep them making more games.

I know that back in the earlier console eras, I'd rather buy a new copy of a PS1/2/3 game at Gamestop for $60, rather than a $50-55 used copy, because I wanted the game companies to get their cut, not just Gamestop.


(as for launchers. . . I've avoided Epic just because I already have more than enough logins/accounts/etc, and would rather not make more if I don't have to. And 'free' games & timed exclusivity aren't enough to bribe me to join in. Plus, don't want to give my CC info to more places if I don't have to. /shrug Nothing to do with 'loyalty'.)

[Tito Shivan]

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

I know. As said, that song and dance has happened a few times already. It's nothing new and merely marketing talk.

We were meant to have cheaper games with the change from cartridges to CDs.
We were meant to have cheaper games with the change from CDs to digital distribution.
We were meant to have cheaper games with the change from 30% to 12% revenue share.

I've heard the song for so long I can dance at the tune with my eyes closed.

Crazy Tiger님이 먼저 게시:

I just don't get why people care about the cut that much when it doesn't get passed down to us gamers/consumers.

It has always made my spider-sense tingling how the revenue share talk started to spawn on forums a few months ahead of the release of the Epic Games store and their "New and Improved Revenue share"... It may just be my tinfoil hat being too tight, but the correlation has always been interesting to me.

Of course the revenue share has just become another stick people hit steam with when they develop a case of brand betrayal.

[Yaya]

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- No longer support Windows 7.

You think steam still keep their clients on older version of Windows supported even its already EOS and lack of security updates? Tell that to Microsoft.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

Who on EARTH still uses DVD splitting support for backup nowadays??? It doesn't fit in those formats at a fixed capacity anymore. Better off to get portable SSD or HDD for better compatibility instead.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of skin support, a feature many users still LOVE. (If you don't, please focus on something more meaningful in your life. we know not everyone shares the same preferences. so dont comment your innability of being a social creature, we know you doesnt have a good day so dont tell everyone here.)

Tbh i tried Steam skin feature once. While it was good to have choice on customisation, the feature went considerably broken even before the new skin update.

Maybe who knows in the future they will re-add back once matured. But for now current shell doesn't support it.

Mallboro님이 먼저 게시:

- The Steam Deck dominating the store even in regions where it's not available, making games like Dota and CS feel like a scam. There's no influx of new players, only the same old ones smurfing without getting banned! not in mention valve only ban smurf who being live online, mean 30% cut corrupted and vac wasnt real!

Bruh. Its pretty laughable how someone complain about Valve advertising their own product on a storefront they OWNED.

[Heraclius Caesar]

Wolfpig님이 먼저 게시:

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

- Removal of the backup feature for CD and DVD, which feels like a move ignoring global users. I use DVD, HDD and SSD. I love colllecting my old game under 5GB on CD and above it i use HDD and SSD, wtf?! Is it so hard to keep that feature??, GOG look better now...

Most games do not even fit on a CD/DVD anymore, so why would valve keep those pre-defined size options in it?
You can still create a backup of the gamefiles but are not forced anymore to choose on what size it must fit, but can decide after it got created where you want to store it.

You erroneously altered the quotes there for some reason. I didn't say that. You took part of the OPs post and put it under my name as if I said that when I didn't. Not sure why you did that. Kind of weird tbh, even if it's an honest mistake. Try a little proofreading next time before you hit "post comment," or at least give your own comment a quick read afterwards to make sure it makes sense and your quotes are in order.

Wolfpig님이 먼저 게시:

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

No one is being forced to use Steam.

Expect in the case that the game you want to play is only available on steam........;)

I'm sure you thought that sounded good and cute but still, no one is being forced to use Steam. If someone has a problem with Steam but "the game they want to play is only available on Steam" then too bad I guess, they can either find another game to play somewhere else or they can try to act like a mature adult and enjoy the game on Steam or find something else to entertain themselves without making spam complaint posts about it on the Steam discussions forum.