Why are Win10 & Win11 users bashing Win7 users when you are the ones who should be bashed

[Sexy Salesman]

Now i am someone who grew up with

dos (Gary Kildall op stolen by Gates, at least you could run doom)

win95 (age of empires anyone?)

win98 (remembering the biggest games i could run were Nox and Sims1 with pentium 1)

xp (remember the boom of program viruses ,but when the user wasnt a moron u were fine)

vista (biggest garbage i ever laid hands on and i rather use 98 or 95 at this point for a laptop)

win7 (the beginning was quite the hassle before some updates made it an solid operating system

win10 (currently using and have had my share of issues with it, and i always regard it rather as a service than a operating system but at least could run the latest games)



So ive been seeing alot these Win7 support ending threads while users with newer operating systems (if u can really even call them that) are bashing older users. I especially find it funny coming from Win11 users who we can safely laber as Microsoft slaves at this point. Win10 users aswell to some degree.

Why should Win7 users abandon their control over Microsoft?
Why should anyone abandon their rights to Microsoft? Including areas of security.
Win10 already does this, i as the owner of a so called operating system have no control over my security and i cant really decline by saying no to whatever update microsoft pushes. (funny kinda what steam does, oh wait ex Microsoft employes)

I for example wouldnt want to get Win11 and all you clowns praising Win11 i wouldnt want to deal with trash like this
https://youtu.be/EqFnVxc3xMo?t=16

What i want is a operating system that i have full control of and not an service that steam already is.
Rather then waste your own time finding things in Win11 (that were once simple on older versions) id rather waste my time learning Linux at this point.

[Sexy Salesman]

Spawn of Totoro a écrit :

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

Up untill Win7 i cant remember how i couldnt blacklist windows updates? Meaning i had full control over the system what i wanted on it and what not.

That is still only partial control, not full control.

Then what is full control?
Because clearly my understanding of an operating system is completely different from you.
Right now using Win7 or Win10 i would label the user having partial control.

[Magic A. I.]

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

a Linux shill

Yes, you got me, Linux pays me to say all these things.

Satoru a écrit :

Telling someone who is by definition a technical luddite because they refuse to get rid of windows 7, to use Linux, is pretty much trying to give a caveman a space shuttle.

It's a huge exaggeration, but generally true. Most of the people who could jump on that train already did it, the rest will remain behind.

Satoru a écrit :

COMPILE THEIR OWN VERSION FROM SOURCE

A grotesque and outdated story to scare sheep away from nice things and towards the W11 wolf. Maybe they should get eaten if they believe things like that.

[Rollandusa]

I feel so ancient ..fond memories of the 70...80 and now 😎

[Rollandusa]

Behind where win 7 out perform win 10 11 12 13 14. Try running win7 program on win 10

[Doctor Zalgo]

Satoru a écrit :

Magic A. I. a écrit :

Anyway. Everyone should indeed switch to Linux in this day and age. If they don't, they are simply behind the curve. That is all.

Telling someone who is by definition a technical luddite because they refuse to get rid of windows 7, to use Linux, is pretty much trying to give a caveman a space shuttle. Linux has way too many quirks and other things that you HAVE to know about in order to use it. Where as windows, by and large, basically works out of the box.

Ironically it's these people who need the automatic updates and other security features of windows 11 the most.

[Doctor Zalgo]

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

Spawn of Totoro a écrit :

That is still only partial control, not full control.

Then what is full control?
Because clearly my understanding of an operating system is completely different from you.
Right now using Win7 or Win10 i would label the user having partial control.

There's no such thing as full control because you don't know what your CPU is doing.

Read Ken Thompson's "Reflections on Trusting Trust" for more info.

[Nx Machina]

Rockstar are ending support for Win 7, 8, 8.1 on the 30th Jan 2024:

In light of Microsoft’s end of support for Windows 7 and Windows 8 operating systems, Rockstar Games will no longer officially support these operating systems beginning January 30, 2024.

To prevent any future interruptions of service and ensure continued access to the latest platform features, we recommend Windows 7 and 8 users upgrade to a supported operating system as soon as possible.

[Ethanol]

More like it's Win 7 / Win 8 whining, throwing tantrum, and attacking anyone that suggest them to do an upgrade with bare minimum budget.

[Phoenix]

Xautos a écrit :

Windows 7 is dead, will you please accept that it is dead and move along.
This arguing is destructive and completely pointless since in a few months when it stops working on steam this subject is moot regardless. Those users who claim to be sticking to their ground are going to be quietly or quickly playing hypocrite before long and move up or across to another OS.

I don't know what more needs to be said on that hard basic and inescapable truth.

What you are saing that you are weak and you'd cave in in front of corporate pressure, so you assume everyone is as weak and pathetic as you?

I work in IT and have tons of experience with instaling, fixing, managing OS. Most users are guillabgle idiots that know nothing what goes under the hood. They don't care. They just want the new shiny.
People today are selling themselves, their privacy and their soul like cheap ♥♥♥♥♥♥... but like lemmings, they are oblivious. After all, everyone is doing it so it must be good. Sputing empty words like "progress" whos' meanng they get from commercials and propaganda.
Sad. So utterly sad.

[Phoenix]

Doctor Zalgo a écrit :

Ironically it's these people who need the automatic updates and other security features of windows 11 the most.

How you any idea how many problems I had to fix that were caused by windows updates? It's EVERY SECOND PROBLEM that arrrives on my desk. Literally.

"Security" features. Hah! Yeah...for your safety. Absolutely.
You eat that slop up like a good boy.

[Zefar]

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

vista (biggest garbage i ever laid hands on and i rather use 98 or 95 at this point for a laptop)

win7 (the beginning was quite the hassle before some updates made it an solid operating system

win10 (currently using and have had my share of issues with it, and i always regard it rather as a service than a operating system but at least could run the latest games)

Fun fact. Win7 is Windows Vista Service Pack 3. They just rebranded it and released it as a new OS.

You have as much control in Win10 as you have in Win7.

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

Why should Win7 users abandon their control over Microsoft?
Why should anyone abandon their rights to Microsoft? Including areas of security.
Win10 already does this, i as the owner of a so called operating system have no control over my security and i cant really decline by saying no to whatever update microsoft pushes. (funny kinda what steam does, oh wait ex Microsoft employes)

You can install whatever anti virus, firewall or literally any type of security programs of your choice and Windows 10 or 11 will not stop you.
Exactly how do you have no control of security?

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

I for example wouldnt want to get Win11 and all you clowns praising Win11 i wouldnt want to deal with trash like this
https://youtu.be/EqFnVxc3xMo?t=16

What i want is a operating system that i have full control of and not an service that steam already is.
Rather then waste your own time finding things in Win11 (that were once simple on older versions) id rather waste my time learning Linux at this point.

That video? I've never needed to be in the command prompt. Not in Win8.1, not in Win10 and not in Win11. So the odds you having an issue that needs it is pretty slim to never.


For the network part in the video. I just connect my cable and the network works.

I haven't needed to do anything else than that. In Win7 I had to go into the settings and search for the network and add it as a public network or private network before it'd start working.

In Win11 I just connect it to the PC. Same with Win10 btw.

Don't even know what issues he has with the cmd prompt. Whining about settings not existing.

Sexy Salesman a écrit :

Maybe you need Microsoft to think for you i dont. There is enough bloatware that you cant delete in Windows 10 already eating pointlessy resources and capacity.

Bloat isn't a thing anymore on half modern CPUs + SSD being used.
Bloat was a thing back in 95,98,XP, Vista and 7 era when you used old harddrives.

[Kenpoleon Bonaparte]

Zefar a écrit :

Bloat isn't a thing anymore on half modern CPUs + SSD being used.
Bloat was a thing back in 95,98,XP, Vista and 7 era when you used old harddrives.

Yes, bloat is still "a thing". Just because there's room on my 2tb harddrive for it doesn't mean I want bloat it there, or that's it's appropriate for corporations to put it there.

[Zefar]

Kenpoleon Bonaparte a écrit :

Zefar a écrit :

Bloat isn't a thing anymore on half modern CPUs + SSD being used.
Bloat was a thing back in 95,98,XP, Vista and 7 era when you used old harddrives.

Yes, bloat is still "a thing". Just because there's room on my 2tb harddrive for it doesn't mean I want bloat it there, or that's it's appropriate for corporations to put it there.

My Windows 11 takes 22 GB.
Several games that I have installed take nearly 100 GB or more.

Windows taking up space on it's dedicated SSD that I've given to it is the least of my problems. I have a 256 GB SSD for my OS and it's honestly overkill for it.

So if windows 10 or 11 have an extra program installed taking maybe 200 or 300 MB it is quite literally nothing.

[Haruspex]

Windows 10/11 users aren't "bashing" Windows 7 users. In fact, if the few Windows 7 holdouts didn't very publicly whine about having to upgrade their outdated OS, we probably wouldn't even notice or care.

If you'e been PC gaming as long as you say, then you should understand that sometimes we need to update our software in this age of the Internet. Valve used to support Steam on Windows 98. You wouldn't expect them to continue to support that OS today, would you?

If Windows 7 users really want to stick it to Microsoft, they should switch to Linux. Valve is leading the way in making Linux a viable alternative to Windows for PC gaming. Besides, Windows 7 spies on you just as much as Windows 10 and 11, it's just not as visible and since it hasn't gotten a security update since January of 2020, it's a dangerous security risk to boot.

[Satoru]

Phoenix a écrit :

How you any idea how many problems I had to fix that were caused by windows updates? It's EVERY SECOND PROBLEM that arrrives on my desk. Literally.

I've managed a Fortune 5 global desktop deployment infrastructure

We did an in-place upgrade

I can count on my hand the number of times a desktop security update actually caused a legitimate issue.

If you're not testing your security updates, well that sounds more like your process is literally so bad you don't even know it.

Your users must hate you, and for good reason.