LMAO, Imagine being a Dev that cares about Smurfing.

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Exvalcore Dec 19, 2023 @ 3:25pm

LMAO, Imagine being a Dev that cares about Smurfing.

It's called skill issue, if a high lvl player likes stomping new players, that's totally fine, I think ranking systems in general shouldn't even exist & player names shouldn't be visible to the other player or team if you think it's an issue, players with skill aren't toxic it's the overall pi$$ poor design of overly completive games that are the real issue alongside ESports/any other sport, they are all toxic as F, not acknowledging you as the dev/sport is in fact the real issue of creating toxic behavior is what's so LMAO. Make a game that's actually respectable & you won't have such issues, no different than being labelled anti-consumer for having loot boxes, overprices skins with no real content of value that players don't even own, half baking digital BS which should exist either.

But no everyone enjoy the banwaves, as I see back & laugh at those playing games like those, I wouldn't be caught dead supporting BS like that, only support games that offer players real value & fun sportsmanship that doesn't promote toxicity.

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Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:

Originally posted by SlowMango:
Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:
Yes. They in fact are, you can agree to such a match anytime without penalty. A grandmaster is not forced to only play with whatever rank ELO gives them. That's how games work, the players choose to take part in a subsection of the community not get assigned there by force and told who to play with. Thank for this example in fact, smurfing is like ordering anyone who get labeled with grandmaster to only play with grandmasters.
Show me a ranking system that allows a known grandmaster to play a known novice.

That also isn't what smurfing is. Smurfing is allowing a grandmaster to fake their skill to play against novices.

You.....you're joking right? You...you do know you can sit down and play with whoever you want? Elo doesn't get to just declare you will be kicked out of all official ranked matches and lose your right to even be in the rankings because you went to some event anonymously to play with newer players for whatever reason you want. That is in fact how games work, you don't have to announce your name and official ranked title in whatever major rank association the game has whenever you play somewhere.

But you instead want to have it treated as functionally no different than hacking and thus worthy of equal punishment to so much as play anonymously or make a new account to avoid a limited community you're forced into by title. I don't know what the reason any individual does it and neither do you, you aren't a volken soothsayer. All because some people want to, for whatever reason they don't owe you or anyone, to come to an event and play anonymously under an alias.

Does that sound sane to you? Because it sounds insanely beuroractic and totalitarian to me.

Originally posted by The nameless Commander:
Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:
Yes. They in fact are, you can agree to such a match anytime without penalty. A grandmaster is not forced to only play with whatever rank ELO gives them. That's how games work, the players choose to take part in a subsection of the community not get assigned there by force and told who to play with. Thank for this example in fact, smurfing is like ordering anyone who get labeled with grandmaster to only play with grandmasters.

The thing about "choice" is that people want to choose the opponents based on skill. Of course, I can only benefit from playing against a slightly better player. But I should be able to choose to REFUSE a match against someone who is vastly more skilled. Smurfing is essentially lying about your skill and FORCING yourself onto weaker players for the twisted pleasure of souring the taste of the game for them. I wouldn't mind playing against a much better player if they were COACHING me. But just being a target for a no-effort victory? No, thanks.

And what if they want to choose based on a different criteria? Does whatever choice you think is most fun suddenly mean no one else should have to right to make their own choices on different standards either? All smurfing is doing is withholding you identity to play in an event with a different group, nothing more, nothing less. If you can't handle going into a multiplayer game and not having some promise that your opponent is of equal talent and experience than you then I'm afraid I'm going to have to call you amazing sheltered and treated with the respect given to a toddler.

I've been going back and fourth with the chess example. Are you suggesting that going to a lower rank chess tournament under an alias to see new players using new strategies and combinations is somehow a form of "Twisting pleasure?" Or perhaps not wanting to play in the grandmasters on every match, finding it far too straining rather than the games of lighthearted banter and general relaxed play from the community you would otherwise be assigned? Is there come kind of sick evil behind wanting to test how quickly to can rise through the ranks, or try new more experimental strategies in games where you don't risk getting reporting for sabotage or otherwise malicious play in such experiments?

You are not and never will be owed or promised some perfect game of equal talent and skill t all times and to demand it is beyond arrogant, let alone to treat anyone who doesn't give it to you as no different than hackers and those who commit financial fraud.

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Lunar Fang Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:10am

Ignore the negativity, they don't know you, they don't know your struggles, what you've gone through in life. All sitting safely behind their screens, judging you for wanting to just relax stomp some new players.

Anyways... do you just sit and stare at the lump or coal in your inventory? Does it burn you up that you'd have to start over again?

Last edited by Lunar Fang; Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:11am

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ReBoot Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:30am

Originally posted by Exvalcore:
It's called skill issue, if a high lvl player likes stomping new players, that's totally fine

Get lost with that toxic crap.

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Warrior at the Edge of Time Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:32am

People have alts for different reasons. Pros need smurfs to train new heroes for tournaments. Ordinary people just want to chill or play a different role. Smurfs are not a problem. Boosters are. But how often do you really meet them? If it's 1 game out of 10, but you are better than rank you're playing at - you should still win 6 out of remaining 9 matches and increase your rank.

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Gökyüzü Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:46am

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by Gökyüzü:

To be fair some game's match making is awfull check mk11 for example every match is one sided at high elo which you can only enjoy if you evenly match with your opponent. Crushing your enemy or getting crushed is boring. But thats for mk like games.

Most fps and moba games has great matchmaking compare to that. And i know they are still far from perfect
You need to read the very first post in the thread, the one that the OP made. He admits to smurfing.

It is available offense in a couple of games as I mentioned above.

The matchmaking isn't the problem. The OP manipulated the system by using an account to gain unfair advantages over new players. DoTA 2 and CS2 specifically mention manipulating the matchmaking system as a bannable offense. You're supposed to use your main account to play these games. Had the OP done so he would have been matched with players of the same skill level as he.

And i have allready mentioned this isnt the case for competitive fps and moba games.

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Neo Dec 20, 2023 @ 12:57am

Guess OP got a dota 2 coal gift.

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Gökyüzü Dec 20, 2023 @ 1:02am

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Originally posted by cinedine:
Because it isn't fun to get curb stomped in five out of five games that might drag on for 30 minutes or more.
People who don't have fun with your game are less likely to spend additional money. Or they simply leave completely. What they are likely to do is recommend against buying your game, so not only are you bleeding players, but you will have a harder time getting new ones.
- Try game
- Get stomped by smurfs.
- Drop game.
- Game doesn't make money.
- ...
- WHY DED GAEM!?

I quited r6 because i was getting destroyed every game and in order to have fun and getting good i need it to play over 200 hour.

I gave it a break from Valorant 1 year i was diamond and when i retuned my elo wasnt changed at all and i started to get destroyed every game and some how my rank was still increasing. im checking some time if my rank droped but no luck im still at diamond elo no matter how long i quit. And in order to drop my elo and play where i acualy belong i need to lose over 50 game and it is not possible. No matter what some smurf will join and carry your ass. I mean in a cituation like this i either need to quit for good or open a smurf and i chose to quit.

Summary ♥♥♥♥ those games and ♥♥♥♥ smurfs even more

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Exvalcore Dec 20, 2023 @ 4:15am

? No where did I say I smurfed at a game besides, all I said is I rank sit in Yugioh, anyone not rank sitting in Yugioh doesn't value their time. All I did was mock steam's decision to ban it, I don't typically play those kinds of games, I'm mostly a single player type of gamer, sure I play a little bit of card games & risk, both those games kinda suck for different reasons, I do have an Alt risk account but only because they limit the # of matches you can play with a BS token system.

Now for me to go off topic on a more serious note... next post. Next post was deleted for being off topic LMAO! Sounds about right.

Last edited by Exvalcore; Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:28am

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Idlemind Dec 20, 2023 @ 4:15am

Something about a bunch of blue skinned town full of men with only one woman doesn't site right with me

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Garou Dec 20, 2023 @ 5:20am

Smurfing ruins game for new players or low ranked. Playing against low ranks while being high skilled is unfair advantage.

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Kapitein Gnapmans Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:00am

I smurfily smurf that smurfs should smurf about smurfing. I smurf it's their smurf, so it smurfs smurf that they smurf about how smurfs are smurfing their smurf. If there are lots of smurfs which are smurfing it less smurf for a lot of smurfs, then it smurfs smurf that smurf is being smurfed about it.

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Exvalcore Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:33am

Originally posted by reaper:
Smurfing ruins game for new players or low ranked. Playing against low ranks while being high skilled is unfair advantage. :funnys:

IWow, I'd simply call it a learning experience.

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Boblin the Goblin Dec 20, 2023 @ 6:37am

Originally posted by Exvalcore:
Originally posted by reaper:
Smurfing ruins game for new players or low ranked. Playing against low ranks while being high skilled is unfair advantage. :funnys:

IWow, I'd simply call it a learning experience.

That's ironic.

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