How Is This Legal?!

[ShaftAlmighty]

So according to Steam, I won't have access to games in 26 days I PAD FOR unless i install another Windows?!

How the **** is this allowed?

[R-]

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

R-님이 먼저 게시:

A lot games worked better on windows 7. Never had crashes on windows 7 but on 10 a lot games dont work. Only the newest games work if they get patched

This argument was brought hundreds of times and was disproved every time. But I will gladly hear what games don't work on Win 10, that worked on Win 7. Especially, that games from 1996 work on Win 10.

I made the experience also i read the reviews and discussions where a lot people say their games crashes.
Games like Bioshock 1 and 2 remastered or orginal crashes a lot which never crashed on windows 7.

[Zarineth]

R-님이 먼저 게시:

Zarineth님이 먼저 게시:

This argument was brought hundreds of times and was disproved every time. But I will gladly hear what games don't work on Win 10, that worked on Win 7. Especially, that games from 1996 work on Win 10.

I made the experience also i read the reviews where a lot people say the game crashes.

As I said, games from previous century work on win 10/11. Not working for you =/= not working.

[Chika Ogiue]

AlucardNoir님이 먼저 게시:

Dunno why you're not seeing it.

Tiny text under the system requirements. You're assuming people read that far down. Most don't.

[lailaamell]

Shadovar님이 먼저 게시:

Seraphita님이 먼저 게시:

Oh I dunno. Maybe because windows 7 is no longer officially supported by their own makers. MAYBE, just maybe it might be related to that. Maybe also that you should upgrade to a new OS made by the same makers who stopped supporting the older one. Just saying.

Well then by what you say games like this https://store.steampowered.com/app/214510/LEGO_The_Lord_of_the_Rings/ should be taken down because win 7 is the highest OS listed for it. And I bet tons more are like this game.

They are selling games for an OS that can't be run on steam. I am on 10 so it matters little to me but I feel for those people out there when steam could make their own system to run on whatever microcrap brings out. Or leave this steam version keep running and give players a choice. Use the old steam at your own risk and make the players sign that.

You do get that this game works on 10 right

[Ganger]

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

Valve informed you in the user agreement you agreed to when you signed up for Steam that system requirements are subject to change. You agreed to that. We all did. That's how it's allowed. That's how it's legal.

Chika Ogiue님이 먼저 게시:

kitt님이 먼저 게시:

here is a hint.. not everything companies say in their tos is lawful

Then get a lawyer and contest it in a court of law. Until you do, and until the courts rule it illegal, the clause can and will be enforced and you agreed to it with every purchase you made on Steam.

This is it, It will take a court or government body to deem it illegal and with such cases as these, it will take years and clog up the court system and valve will fight it tooth and nail like they do with other cases.

[Ganger]

Tsumugi님이 먼저 게시:

I genuinely don't understand why people are upset over this. I've been using Win10 for ages now and outside of the obnoxious Start menu (that I'm not forced to use), it's practically functionally identical to how Win7 operated. Granted I'm not super knowledgeable on the true differences between operating systems but this just seems like a non-issue. Feels like you're just trying to find something to get upset about.

Maybe these people generally can't afford to upgrade either by buying new PC parts or buying the OS itself. Some don't like to be told they must change or see being forced to change as a act of control against them... many many reasons.

[Lithurge]

Shadovar님이 먼저 게시:

Well then by what you say games like this should be taken down because win 7 is the highest OS listed for it. And I bet tons more are like this game.

You've read something into them that isn't there, as apparently are a lot of other people. They're labelled as minimum and recommended specs, nowhere do they say you have to have Windows 7 or lower to get them to work.

That's why you didn't see thousands of complaints from people when they switched to Windows 10 and carried on playing all their 'Windows 7' games.

[Getty]

Trolled again, too easy.

[suksas]

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

ShaftAlmighty님이 먼저 게시:

So according to Steam, I won't have access to games in 26 days I PAD FOR unless i install another Windows?!

How the **** is this allowed?

Valve informed you in the user agreement you agreed to when you signed up for Steam that system requirements are subject to change. You agreed to that. We all did. That's how it's allowed. That's how it's legal.

Try to be a little more rational and mature, it's just an operating system it's really not that deep. You'll be alright.

Valve TOS are not legal. They are just Valve fantasies.

It all depends on nations laws, that can in fact be opposite of Valve TOS.

Valve was sued by the guy in EU and lost badly. EU didn't give a damn about valve TOS>

[lailaamell]

suksas님이 먼저 게시:

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

Valve informed you in the user agreement you agreed to when you signed up for Steam that system requirements are subject to change. You agreed to that. We all did. That's how it's allowed. That's how it's legal.

Try to be a little more rational and mature, it's just an operating system it's really not that deep. You'll be alright.

Valve TOS are not legal. They are just Valve fantasies.

It all depends on nations laws, that can in fact be opposite of Valve TOS.

Valve was sued by the guy in EU and lost badly. EU didn't give a damn about valve TOS>

so where is the forced support of windows os like you can probly when win any case against any company for this is a quite standard thing that they may have to change the requirments if you win in court over it companies would be forced to support all dead os no matter if anyone uses it or age wich would mean most likely they never gonna do patches for fear that it wouldnt work with older os

[Ganger]

suksas님이 먼저 게시:

Valve TOS are not legal. They are just Valve fantasies.

It all depends on nations laws, that can in fact be opposite of Valve TOS.

Valve was sued by the guy in EU and lost badly. EU didn't give a damn about valve TOS>

This is what people are saying, it needs court action or government action to change things.

I have lost track on valves court cases, what was this case about if you can refresh me ?

[Boblin the Goblin]

suksas님이 먼저 게시:

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

Valve informed you in the user agreement you agreed to when you signed up for Steam that system requirements are subject to change. You agreed to that. We all did. That's how it's allowed. That's how it's legal.

Try to be a little more rational and mature, it's just an operating system it's really not that deep. You'll be alright.

Valve TOS are not legal. They are just Valve fantasies.

It all depends on nations laws, that can in fact be opposite of Valve TOS.

Valve was sued by the guy in EU and lost badly. EU didn't give a damn about valve TOS>

I'm waiting on a source for this lawsuit claim.

[Trollhammer]

suksas님이 먼저 게시:

Heraclius Caesar님이 먼저 게시:

Valve informed you in the user agreement you agreed to when you signed up for Steam that system requirements are subject to change. You agreed to that. We all did. That's how it's allowed. That's how it's legal.

Try to be a little more rational and mature, it's just an operating system it's really not that deep. You'll be alright.

Valve TOS are not legal. They are just Valve fantasies.

It all depends on nations laws, that can in fact be opposite of Valve TOS.

Valve was sued by the guy in EU and lost badly. EU didn't give a damn about valve TOS>

Could you provide the case "the guy in EU" won ?

[Brian9824]

Ah this again, courts have sided with businesses on this as long as software existed. Businesses aren't required to support old software indefinitely. This is the 5th or 6th time they've depreciated an old OS, EPIC games already killed 7/10 for Fortnite, and other sites and products are doing it as well.

Its a normal part of the software life cycle.

[lailaamell]

Trollhammer님이 먼저 게시:

suksas님이 먼저 게시:

Valve TOS are not legal. They are just Valve fantasies.

It all depends on nations laws, that can in fact be opposite of Valve TOS.

Valve was sued by the guy in EU and lost badly. EU didn't give a damn about valve TOS>

Could you provide the case "the guy in EU" won ?

i think it was a case about reselling used digital game licenses wich eu didnt side with valve