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awillis1198 12 Thg11, 2023 @ 6:19pm
About the Old Steam Deck Trade In for New Steam Deck Version
Is it possible for us those who have own Old Version of Steam Deck can Trade In for the New Version Steam just came out? Or, Is possible our Old Version of Steam can be upgrade by sending to the Company if they are allowed to do so. Please leave comment below what do u think of this?
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BKNY425 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 11:12am 
Nguyên văn bởi Kage Goomba:
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Am I the only one happy with my 3 decks already? I'll snag an OLED later probably. But, yikes. People are acting weird for this trade in idea.

People want their #### for little to no effort and no money to be spent.
Age of self entitlement.

I get the notion of trade in's but they never think about what's involved on the back-end.

Also - refurbs are Steam Deck's that where consumed by Warranty failed repairs that needed to be "Refurbed/Recertified" - not trade-in's - so don't get fooled for one min.


####?
Komarimaru 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 11:13am 
Nguyên văn bởi BKNY425:
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Am I the only one happy with my 3 decks already? I'll snag an OLED later probably. But, yikes. People are acting weird for this trade in idea.

Weird? It's a simple question.
No, it's weird. Not once has Valve offered or hinted at anything like that. Phone companies offer it, and you STILL pay for that phone they gave you "Discounted" (Hint, it's not much of a discount) to just keep you using their service you pay monthly for.
D. Flame 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 11:38am 
Nguyên văn bởi Heraclius Caesar:
Nguyên văn bởi metaxaos:

Apple does it alright.

Cool, last time I checked though we're on Steam, not Apple, and Steam sure isn't doing trade ins where you send in your "old" Steam Deck and receive a brand new OLED Steam Deck. That's a pretty crazy expectation to have here.
That's not how most trade in programs work.

Most will let you buy the new product at a discounted rate, then you ship back your old one. Then they refurbish the old one and resell it at a lower price than new, but still a higher price than that offered you.

Then the people who want the newest possible option have a way to upgrade. People who want a deck but can't afford a new one have options, and Steam gets to make extra money. It's win-win-win.
Kage Goomba 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
Nguyên văn bởi Heraclius Caesar:

Cool, last time I checked though we're on Steam, not Apple, and Steam sure isn't doing trade ins where you send in your "old" Steam Deck and receive a brand new OLED Steam Deck. That's a pretty crazy expectation to have here.
That's not how most trade in programs work.

Most will let you buy the new product at a discounted rate, then you ship back your old one. Then they refurbish the old one and resell it at a lower price than new, but still a higher price than that offered you.

Then the people who want the newest possible option have a way to upgrade. People who want a deck but can't afford a new one have options, and Steam gets to make extra money. It's win-win-win.

Once again you fail to finish your homework.

Can't make a profit if you lose it all to shipping/labor/processing/handling.

People think this stuff is easy/cheap - takes a lot of effort to handle used hardware trade ins.

That "extra money" ends up being pennies - which is why you don't see companies do this sort of thing very often - short of pawn shops (Gamestop)
D. Flame 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 1:23pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Kage Goomba:
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
That's not how most trade in programs work.

Most will let you buy the new product at a discounted rate, then you ship back your old one. Then they refurbish the old one and resell it at a lower price than new, but still a higher price than that offered you.

Then the people who want the newest possible option have a way to upgrade. People who want a deck but can't afford a new one have options, and Steam gets to make extra money. It's win-win-win.

Once again you fail to finish your homework.

Can't make a profit if you lose it all to shipping/labor/processing/handling.

People think this stuff is easy/cheap - takes a lot of effort to handle used hardware trade ins.

That "extra money" ends up being pennies - which is why you don't see companies do this sort of thing very often - short of pawn shops (Gamestop)
Bruh, companies have been doing this for years and still turning a profit.

Gamestop used to be the most profitable game seller around until they got greedy and started catering more towards the stock market than to customers. When used games used to be sold for significantly cheaper than new (versus just being a $5 difference), they were making money hand over fist. The amount they paid for used games was less and they got to keep a bigger cut (all of it) for themselves, unlike with new games.

Phone companies weren't doing these programs as a charity either. They know they stand to make a profit from doing it, just like I mentioned before.

3rd party companies buying old phone were also doing it to turn a profit.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

And a profit of millions of dollars in pennies is still a profit of millions of dollars.
Yeah last I check not everyone does trade in, sony, microsoft, nintendo, gigabyte, msi, acer, dell, and etc...

There are 3rd party that does TRADE ins such as ebgames / game stop, if people are somehow confusing them as 1st party, but the fact is that most push trade in towards 3rd party such as ebay, and so on. Phone companines that sell you phones with a plan for service can do trade in, but that had nothing to do with asus, samsung, or etc, that the store own system.

So yes not everyone like Apple not sure why people assume this, or think it is when that not even the case, which if that was even true every company would've been offering it which they're not that something have to know, if one company does it, doesn't mean everyone else does it.

Again if want to make money back on your deck, trade it in at places that give you store credit, or value to get something you want from said store that does trade in, or list an ad for your item to sell to someone online that whole point why ebay, amazon market place, and etc exist. And again it up to Valve if they wanted to do it, let be real if you do trade in with stores you're likely going to get a bad trade in value AKA ebgame / gamestop experience where you only get like 10% ~ 30% of what you paid for, imagine paying $500 only to get $50 ~ $150 in trade value yeah doesn't sound great. Even apple own ecosystem for trade in can be just as bad if you don't trade in within certain amount of time before value on them drop when their new models release aka new iphone every year...
Komarimaru 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 1:48pm 
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
Nguyên văn bởi Kage Goomba:

Once again you fail to finish your homework.

Can't make a profit if you lose it all to shipping/labor/processing/handling.

People think this stuff is easy/cheap - takes a lot of effort to handle used hardware trade ins.

That "extra money" ends up being pennies - which is why you don't see companies do this sort of thing very often - short of pawn shops (Gamestop)
Bruh, companies have been doing this for years and still turning a profit.

Gamestop used to be the most profitable game seller around until they got greedy and started catering more towards the stock market than to customers. When used games used to be sold for significantly cheaper than new (versus just being a $5 difference), they were making money hand over fist. The amount they paid for used games was less and they got to keep a bigger cut (all of it) for themselves, unlike with new games.

Phone companies weren't doing these programs as a charity either. They know they stand to make a profit from doing it, just like I mentioned before.

3rd party companies buying old phone were also doing it to turn a profit.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

And a profit of millions of dollars in pennies is still a profit of millions of dollars.
Gamestop, ripped people off. You'd buy a game for $60, and they'd give you $4 for it later, and re-sell it for $40.
They'll give you $200 cash for a PS5, but will re-sell it for $450

Don't act like this is a good business model and does not apply here at all...

And you forgot what I mentioned about phone companies, it's a trick. They say you're getting a good trade in, and yet you're still paying for that phone on top of your normal bill each month. Read the agreements when you do this stuff...

You honestly think, people would only take $40 for their Steam Deck to get credit for a new one? Give me a break...
D. Flame 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 1:55pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
Bruh, companies have been doing this for years and still turning a profit.

Gamestop used to be the most profitable game seller around until they got greedy and started catering more towards the stock market than to customers. When used games used to be sold for significantly cheaper than new (versus just being a $5 difference), they were making money hand over fist. The amount they paid for used games was less and they got to keep a bigger cut (all of it) for themselves, unlike with new games.

Phone companies weren't doing these programs as a charity either. They know they stand to make a profit from doing it, just like I mentioned before.

3rd party companies buying old phone were also doing it to turn a profit.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

And a profit of millions of dollars in pennies is still a profit of millions of dollars.
Gamestop, ripped people off. You'd buy a game for $60, and they'd give you $4 for it later, and re-sell it for $40.
They'll give you $200 cash for a PS5, but will re-sell it for $450

Don't act like this is a good business model and does not apply here at all...

And you forgot what I mentioned about phone companies, it's a trick. They say you're getting a good trade in, and yet you're still paying for that phone on top of your normal bill each month. Read the agreements when you do this stuff...

You honestly think, people would only take $40 for their Steam Deck to get credit for a new one? Give me a break...
I'd but a new game for $60, trade it in for around $20, and get a used game for around $40.

Gamestop wasn't always greedy. They would never have gotten as popular as they did if they were. The corporate buy outs, anti-consumer behavior, and ceaseless greed that destroyed them came later.
Lần sửa cuối bởi D. Flame; 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:53pm
Komarimaru 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 1:58pm 
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Gamestop, ripped people off. You'd buy a game for $60, and they'd give you $4 for it later, and re-sell it for $40.
They'll give you $200 cash for a PS5, but will re-sell it for $450

Don't act like this is a good business model and does not apply here at all...

And you forgot what I mentioned about phone companies, it's a trick. They say you're getting a good trade in, and yet you're still paying for that phone on top of your normal bill each month. Read the agreements when you do this stuff...

You honestly think, people would only take $40 for their Steam Deck to get credit for a new one? Give me a break...
I'd but a new game for $40, trade it in for around $20, and get a used game for around $40.

Gamestop wasn't always greedy. They would never have gotten as popular as they did if they were. The corporate buy outs, anti-consumer behavior, and ceaseless greed that destroyed them came later.
I worked there, for many years. They were always, always greedy. Don't tell me how Gamestop works when was a manager there for 6 years.

Our whole point was to rip people like you off.
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Gamestop, ripped people off. You'd buy a game for $60, and they'd give you $4 for it later, and re-sell it for $40.
They'll give you $200 cash for a PS5, but will re-sell it for $450

Don't act like this is a good business model and does not apply here at all...

And you forgot what I mentioned about phone companies, it's a trick. They say you're getting a good trade in, and yet you're still paying for that phone on top of your normal bill each month. Read the agreements when you do this stuff...

You honestly think, people would only take $40 for their Steam Deck to get credit for a new one? Give me a break...
I'd but a new game for $40, trade it in for around $20, and get a used game for around $40.

Gamestop wasn't always greedy. They would never have gotten as popular as they did if they were. The corporate buy outs, anti-consumer behavior, and ceaseless greed that destroyed them came later.
The caught is promotion deal, or very new aka just release within last 1 ~ 3 months that how they work.

If a game get trade in too often, and not selling value on it drops super fast at the store, and I used to work at ebgames / gamestop years ago. Good example Gears of war 2 that game fell to 50 cents after 1st month... That $60 down to $0.50 for trade in value.... Think for a moment how bad that was, also this just a worse case, most games don't face that problem.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉; 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:04pm
Komarimaru 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:07pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
I'd but a new game for $40, trade it in for around $20, and get a used game for around $40.

Gamestop wasn't always greedy. They would never have gotten as popular as they did if they were. The corporate buy outs, anti-consumer behavior, and ceaseless greed that destroyed them came later.
The caught is promotion deal, or very new aka just release within last 1 ~ 3 months that how they work.

If a game get trade in too often, and not selling value on it drops super fast at the store, and I used to work at ebgames / gamestop years ago. Good example Gears of war 2 that game fell to 50 cents after 1st month... That $60 down to $0.50 for trade in value.... Think for a moment how bad that was, also this just a worse case, most games don't face that problem.
Ya, and we were pushed to sell used at "Greater deals!" then new since the customer had no idea how little we paid for it. And never pay out cash, but offer store credit which is worthless to the customer.

D Flame 100% has no idea how it works.
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
The caught is promotion deal, or very new aka just release within last 1 ~ 3 months that how they work.

If a game get trade in too often, and not selling value on it drops super fast at the store, and I used to work at ebgames / gamestop years ago. Good example Gears of war 2 that game fell to 50 cents after 1st month... That $60 down to $0.50 for trade in value.... Think for a moment how bad that was, also this just a worse case, most games don't face that problem.
Ya, and we were pushed to sell used at "Greater deals!" then new since the customer had no idea how little we paid for it. And never pay out cash, but offer store credit which is worthless to the customer.

D Flame 100% has no idea how it works.
In canada we don't do cash out only store credit lmao. But yeah I remember this because some many people were bringing in copies of halo 3, and gears of war 2, and scream this some BS when we told them it worth almost nothing because too many people are trading it in instead of buying it. Year later I switch jobs to Blockbuster because a spot open up for me, way better than working at ebgames, because I can just rent all the stuff for free each week.
D. Flame 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:18pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
I'd but a new game for $40, trade it in for around $20, and get a used game for around $40.

Gamestop wasn't always greedy. They would never have gotten as popular as they did if they were. The corporate buy outs, anti-consumer behavior, and ceaseless greed that destroyed them came later.
I worked there, for many years. They were always, always greedy. Don't tell me how Gamestop works when was a manager there for 6 years.

Our whole point was to rip people like you off.
I would buy a new game and play it.

Then I would trade in two used ones, and walk out with another recently released used game with no money out of my pocket. They were literally paying out 50% of a used game price for your trade ins. Yes, they were still coming out ahead and making a profit, but it still felt fair to the consumer. That is the whole reason people still shopped there, and they got as popular as they did.

It wasn't until they started trying to sell new games for $60 and used games for $55 that people turned on them.

And no one expected yearly releases like Madden to have a decent trade in value after a year. Once those sports games were a year old, no one wanted them anymore, they wanted the current year's release.
D. Flame 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
Nguyên văn bởi Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
The caught is promotion deal, or very new aka just release within last 1 ~ 3 months that how they work.

If a game get trade in too often, and not selling value on it drops super fast at the store, and I used to work at ebgames / gamestop years ago. Good example Gears of war 2 that game fell to 50 cents after 1st month... That $60 down to $0.50 for trade in value.... Think for a moment how bad that was, also this just a worse case, most games don't face that problem.
Ya, and we were pushed to sell used at "Greater deals!" then new since the customer had no idea how little we paid for it. And never pay out cash, but offer store credit which is worthless to the customer.

D Flame 100% has no idea how it works.
Bruh, everyone knew how it worked.

Store credit is exactly why most of use were there, and we knew exactly how much they were paying out, because we were the ones doing the trades in the first place.

For a kid, trading two game that you no longer played, to get a used game that you did want to play was a sweet deal.
Komarimaru 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
Nguyên văn bởi D. Flame:
Nguyên văn bởi Komarimaru:
I worked there, for many years. They were always, always greedy. Don't tell me how Gamestop works when was a manager there for 6 years.

Our whole point was to rip people like you off.
I would buy a new game and play it.

Then I would trade in two used ones, and walk out with another recently released used game with no money out of my pocket. They were literally paying out 50% of a used game price for your trade ins. Yes, they were still coming out ahead and making a profit, but it still felt fair to the consumer. That is the whole reason people still shopped there, and they got as popular as they did.

It wasn't until they started trying to sell new games for $60 and used games for $55 that people turned on them.

And no one expected yearly releases like Madden to have a decent trade in value after a year. Once those sports games were a year old, no one wanted them anymore, they wanted the current year's release.
Again saying things that are not believable. I worked for Gamestop during the 90's. N64 era. Games were $60 new. And no way did you walk in, and get a game from that era, with just two trade ins. Since you were given store credit, and still got ripped off, since the traded in games would be sold for 5 times the price we paid.

What you're claiming isn't even economically possible to happen for Gamestop/EB Games.
Lần sửa cuối bởi Komarimaru; 26 Thg11, 2023 @ 2:23pm
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