With Steam stopping support with Windows 7 way sooner then it should, this makes me fear Windows 10 losing support

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It's not that bad if you change some settings, but it's WAY better then Windows 10 (which is what I actually use). NEVER stop supporting Windows 10, Valve. Got it?

[pasa]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crazy Tiger:

Acknowledging how thing are =/= supporting it. I'm baffled people confuse that so much on these forums.

Well, what you write is very clearly support of decision and dismissing the the clients' incenveniences, inabilities or pure preference to just use the systems they are happy with and change for something worse for them. If yu didn;t mean it like that, well, the confusion is created in there. :-/

How about this: if you were the decision maker at valve, would you proceed it this particular way? Or rather go with one of suggested other paths, like keeping the "nioui" client working with just login, install and launch, limiting drop of support to only the full client?

If the latter, then you did poor job of "just acking how things are", while for the former, then its what we call support, for good.

[lsdninja]

Początkowo opublikowane przez pasa:

How about this: if you were the decision maker at valve, would you proceed it this particular way? Or rather go with one of suggested other paths, like keeping the "nioui" client working with just login, install and launch, limiting drop of support to only the full client?

The problem with asking these kinds of hypotheticals is that you fail to take in to account the greed and sociopathy you get at the levels of business where these decisions are typically made.

[Thermal Lance]

Even if Valve turned around and said "We gonna wait another year", it would just be kicking the can down the road.

You will have to upgrade eventually anyway. That's not even a debate, it's a matter of when not if.

Most will upgrade and the rest got only themselves to blame. Or if they cant accept the consequences of their choices because reasons, blame Microsoft because THEY killed 7... not Valve.

[Crazy Tiger]

Początkowo opublikowane przez pasa:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crazy Tiger:

Acknowledging how thing are =/= supporting it. I'm baffled people confuse that so much on these forums.

Well, what you write is very clearly support of decision and dismissing the the clients' incenveniences, inabilities or pure preference to just use the systems they are happy with and change for something worse for them. If yu didn;t mean it like that, well, the confusion is created in there. :-/

How about this: if you were the decision maker at valve, would you proceed it this particular way? Or rather go with one of suggested other paths, like keeping the "nioui" client working with just login, install and launch, limiting drop of support to only the full client?

If the latter, then you did poor job of "just acking how things are", while for the former, then its what we call support, for good.

I've said before in threads like these that I'm in full support of legacy clients and the like, but that I can understand why a company won't do it. I've also said that Valve won't offer such a thing, based on the previous 3 times support for old Windows versions got dropped. And that if people want a change, that they have to challenge the SSA in courts, since digital legislation won't catch up quick enough on its own.

If you see all that that as "supporting" Valve, then I can only conclude that the word "supporting" can be added to the long list of words that have lost meaning due to people wrongly using them. And that people apparently indeed are incapable of understanding that other people can look at things from multiple perspectives, not just the one that suits them. A pity, though.

Początkowo opublikowane przez lsdninja:

Początkowo opublikowane przez pasa:

How about this: if you were the decision maker at valve, would you proceed it this particular way? Or rather go with one of suggested other paths, like keeping the "nioui" client working with just login, install and launch, limiting drop of support to only the full client?

The problem with asking these kinds of hypotheticals is that you fail to take in to account the greed and sociopathy you get at the levels of business where these decisions are typically made.

Agreed. Idealistic thoughts are nice, but rarely realistic. In a perfect world things would be different. The world is not perfect, though.

[Wolfpig]

Początkowo opublikowane przez niralamart000:

i don't understand why do people and steam care what OS microsoft supports or not, like wtf why do they think bloat ware updates from that garbage company amount to anything. Install your own anti virus and play video games

it is not about what OS MS is still supporting.
it is about features which wont work on older systems.

The only reason why valve is dropping support for older systems is mostly because stuff wont work on them, and it would not really possible to have a legacy client out there, as those would be needed to maintained too, and which is more problematic, the server would still need to support it, which would mean that old unsecure stuff needs to run on those as the newer "interface" would not be compatible with the old client.

[pasa]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Thermal Lance:

Even if Valve turned around and said "We gonna wait another year", it would just be kicking the can down the road.

You will have to upgrade eventually anyway. That's not even a debate, it's a matter of when not if.

Most will upgrade and the rest got only themselves to blame. Or if they cant accept the consequences of their choices because reasons, blame Microsoft because THEY killed 7... not Valve.

Providing the os-agnostic thin client is exactly what would cure the root problem for now and for ever. Could have been done at dropping XT. And there was not even debate of the possibility or feasibility. It's not done just because goes against agenda. What is NOT making us play our bought games conveniently.

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

Początkowo opublikowane przez lsdninja:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Wynters:

Windows 10 loses support 2025 or so…

Windows 10 loses support in 2025 the same way Windows 7 lost support in 2020.

but steam will prob keep win10 support til at least 2037 or so

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

Początkowo opublikowane przez pasa:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Thermal Lance:

Even if Valve turned around and said "We gonna wait another year", it would just be kicking the can down the road.

You will have to upgrade eventually anyway. That's not even a debate, it's a matter of when not if.

Most will upgrade and the rest got only themselves to blame. Or if they cant accept the consequences of their choices because reasons, blame Microsoft because THEY killed 7... not Valve.

Providing the os-agnostic thin client is exactly what would cure the root problem for now and for ever. Could have been done at dropping XT. And there was not even debate of the possibility or feasibility. It's not done just because goes against agenda. What is NOT making us play our bought games conveniently.

nothing stopping us from playing our bought games, i can play my library of 850 games just fine no one put a gun to my head saying i cant play them

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

boy some people, entitled much

[lsdninja]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}:

Początkowo opublikowane przez lsdninja:

Windows 10 loses support in 2025 the same way Windows 7 lost support in 2020.

but steam will prob keep win10 support til at least 2037 or so

That’s what I was saying, yes.

[Tito Shivan]

Początkowo opublikowane przez pasa:

Well, DECENT companies definitely don't lock you out of your paid stuff.

You may want to look again at who is and isn't 'locking you out of your paid stuff'

And attributing human qualities to businesses is onky a receipt for dissapointment.

[Hobbit XIII]

Początkowo opublikowane przez RougePatron:

It's not that bad if you change some settings, but it's WAY better then Windows 10 (which is what I actually use). NEVER stop supporting Windows 10, Valve. Got it?

How would you keep support when windows 10 becomes vulnerable to the next generation of operating systems?

[NakiBest]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hobbit XIII:

Początkowo opublikowane przez RougePatron:

It's not that bad if you change some settings, but it's WAY better then Windows 10 (which is what I actually use). NEVER stop supporting Windows 10, Valve. Got it?

How would you keep support when windows 10 becomes vulnerable to the next generation of operating systems?

Easy, switch to Windows 11.

[Hobbit XIII]

Początkowo opublikowane przez NakiBest:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Hobbit XIII:

How would you keep support when windows 10 becomes vulnerable to the next generation of operating systems?

Easy, switch to Windows 11.

you ignored that they want to stick with windows 10.

[NakiBest]

I mean, when the time comes, NOT now. :)