Why do most popular forums/social media sites (including Steam) tolerate left-wing opinions but not right wing?

[mz]

Basically title.

Whenever someone posts something ridiculously left-wing, such as absurd first-world problems like "I don't feel represented in this game, add LGBTQ+ content!" the threads/OPs are usually left alone. However, should someone post a thread/comment that goes against this idea (or similar left-wing views), that person gets warned/banned/generally punished in some way more commonly than if it was a leftist opinion.

Please don't make the argument of "oh the right wingers are usually way more toxic or use harsher words" as I don't think it's true. Both parties throw around stupid buzzwords such as ♥♥♥♥/trans/...-phobic and the f-/n-/...words (obviously can't say them here, duh). And no, the latter are not any more offensive than the former. Both are insulting in their meaning for the respective party, so I think either all or none of those buzzwords should be allowed.

It's honestly tiring not being able to express your opinion freely (of course within reason) without having to worry about stupid consequences because of biases. I think that "Add more xyz content" and "I am tired of xyz content being added" are equally valid statements to make, and one isn't more acceptable than the other. Some websites are a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ left-wing echochamber. Some games are starting to become that way too. I'm sure most wouldn't call it left, but to me adding features such as censorship in the chat (in an M-rated game? Are you gonna cry when someone says f*ck?) or recording voice chat to "improve quality and ban toxic people" is extremely dumb. If you give people the option to mute others, why censor/record on top of it? Toxic people will be toxic in one way or another, and I think that recording voice chat puts more good people off from using it due to privacy concerns than it prevents toxic people from being toxic, but that's a topic for another day.

I don't understand why discussion from one side is tolerated less than from the other; a healthy exchange of discussions just promotes growth, and both sides learn from it. And, in my experience, dividing both sides like this actually causes more harm than good, as when people do get the opportunity to exchange opinions, it often results in a heated discussion so the people can feel heard without being censored immediately.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

[Hobbit XIII]

Because of the Third Reich is the simple and honest answer.

so people and companies can avoid being labelled as anything to do with Nazi Germany it is safer to adopt a subscription stance to issues and follow and obey.

It affects governments, corporations , companies, sports, social groups right down to the so called individual.
It is just safer for them that way to go with the trend whatever leaning it is that decade.

Three examples I will add :
Li Zu? may have the name incorrect of Ancient China decreed that all documents not in line with what he and the Emperor says are to be destroyed / burned.
Imagine all that knowledge of a sophisticated civilisation being burned never to be read again. a unique perspective gone.
And much more modern China the Communist party wipes out information it does not agree with. Covid is a good example on silencing doctors. The protest of that square back last late century too.

Nazi Germany :
Burn everything that is not pro Nazi.

Spanish Explorers :
On finding the ancient tribes and their treasures of knowledge in South America, the religious leader found ancient wisdoms and decreed it against the Church and so must be destroyed.
Again lots of ancient irreplaceable knowledge and thinking gone.

[Komarimaru]

I personally don't think any of it should be on Steam.

[Brian9824]

It's as simple as HOW they communicate. The topic is less important then HOW you communicate it, and some can't use the forums without attacking others which leads to threads being closed

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google

Ideological groupings
Generally, the left wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism"
while the right wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

jealousy greed fear abuse needs to be thrown in there as well

[Hobbit XIII]

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google

Ideological groupings
Generally, the left wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism"
while the right wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

jealousy greed fear abuse needs to be thrown in there as well

China's Right to Revolution the red book march, imagine trying to do that nowadays there.
China swinging from far left to far right all over and all at once by that definition.

[Zarineth]

All political and religion based discussions should be once again banned on Steam general forums.

[mz]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Zarineth:

All political and religion based discussions should be once again banned on Steam general forums.

I disagree. Nothing should be banned to be discussed as long as it's civilized. People should learn how to communicate different opinions to each other instead of the topics being banned. It's a lot more work, yes, but I think the outcome is more than worth it.

[Zarineth]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez Zarineth:

All political and religion based discussions should be once again banned on Steam general forums.

I disagree. Nothing should be banned to be discussed as long as it's civilized. People should learn how to communicate different opinions to each other instead of the topics being banned. It's a lot more work, yes, but I think the outcome is more than worth it.

How are political discussions on gaming forums worth it?

[Brian9824]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Zarineth:

All political and religion based discussions should be once again banned on Steam general forums.

Agreed, there are plenty of places to have those discussions, it doesn't need to be on a site dedicated to gaming.

[Hobbit XIII]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Zarineth:

Początkowo opublikowane przez mz:

I disagree. Nothing should be banned to be discussed as long as it's civilized. People should learn how to communicate different opinions to each other instead of the topics being banned. It's a lot more work, yes, but I think the outcome is more than worth it.

How are political discussions on gaming forums worth it? :ConfusedChris:

Not expecting an answer just saying, this question immediately sets the plot for the politics of the forum and thus discussing it and making it worth it.

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do politics and religion discussions increase
game sales or create motivation for game playing..

if there was religion and politics posted on a store front.... i wouldnt be going in...

[Aachen]

Because it’s a conclusion fitting your ideology?

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, that how it works.

The problem in this world is how a lot of people are just the problem to pushing bad logic, or flawed arguments. One day a opinion that consider left wing is suddenly considered to be right wing, and just happens over & over, and even vice versa. The other issue is how people try to justify the dumbest things, example one person thinks by seeing someone cheating in a game with anti cheat it ok for him to do it too, or think he be rewarded if he does it too, truth is he used bad logic, and gave bad argument to trying justify bad reasons.

Then got trolls that just enjoy doing it, or wanting to flame trying to push buttons, or bad opinions to try fish people then try make bad excuses, or push dumb logic that only backfired on the then plays victim, or plays dumb to keep the game going.



You wonder what the point, that a bit complicated, but it depends whom doing it, what it about, and why if you get those three things down, you have idea whst it about, what their goal may be, and their history of their behavior, and logic. This isn't just forums, it wide spread all over the place from schools, video game industry, movies, and so on. There people that push the wrong things, and there people that push the right things. And right now nearly all companies want to look good for things even if it turned into a problem that people have concerns, or see it as a problematic, example BLM, it not the BLM itself, it the people that trying to drive BLM for their personal benefit, and ruining, or giving bad reputation of BLM, same for the LGBT, even the Police for good example, it why some people can't feel safe, or comfortable without some moron, or troll that wants to ruins something's, that makes others see the things in the wrong way, and hard to see good in something.


I don't want to get too deep without triggering someone, but the fact is this world is just a endless battle, and best to just play neutral, or point out bad logic's, and bad arguments for trying to justify things, that why left wing, and right wing will forever be a thing even though there are other sides that don't want to take part, but people paint them as such. Sorry just saying lot of silly stuff, but it's a big topic too much to break down.


TLDR: Just don't engage in really bad bait topics, or make topic to attack others. People will say anything just let them be ignored, and they fade into the abyss.

[mz]

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I disagree. Nothing should be banned to be discussed as long as it's civilized. People should learn how to communicate different opinions to each other instead of the topics being banned. It's a lot more work, yes, but I think the outcome is more than worth it.

How are political discussions on gaming forums worth it? :ConfusedChris:

They're not, but as it is with anything else it is merely an exchange of opinions. I don't see the difference between talking about religion or how to kill the boss in a game. It's just people talking to each other, which in my opinion is the point of a forum. Yeah, it should be on topic, but if you veer off from time to time I don't see it as necessarily bad under the condition that it remains civilized.

[Pscht]

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merely an exchange of opinions

There's a difference between "your fav game sux" and "you should go to hell because of your ethnicity/beliefs/sexual preferences". Besides, the former is sold here, the latter are not.