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cryofreeze666 2023 年 10 月 23 日 下午 8:38
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roflmao, really steam wont work for 7 in 2 months?
first things first what good is that going to do? not like valve had a program that worked with windows from the beginning. can't count how many times in the past that trying to turn off my computer i couldn't even force a computer shutdown because of steam. then you have the games that plain just don't work, and the games that in order to get them to work you have to jump through unreasonable hoops to get to work. so how is that all going to change, if i downgrade to the windows10/ 11 program that is so full of bloatware it won't matter how much money i've spent on a phone or computer the program wastes resources. switching operating systems, leaves me extremely skeptical, if they can't get their program to run smoothly in one format, how am i to believe it will run smoothly in another?
see i'm not a teenager who says what can you do about it, i want to be entertained now. i'm an adult that says, hey they have my money for past purchases, now their trying to take them away. that equates to nothing more than theft. if i can't use them, they need to figure out a way to refund my money or make them accessable. that is their responsibility since they chose this format to sell games in. not my responsibility to keep spending money in order to keep games i purchased over time. that equates to extortion. see why i hate this format for gaming, they hold your recreational investments hostage. some people may think that is ok, when it's extortion plain and simple.
you can say "advancement of technology" all you want, but i'm not young enough or dumb enough to believe that. the only advancement i will guess is the lines that identify the o.s., i doubt they'll have changed anything else. and the red line doesn't say it wont support windows7 it says it won't run, which means discriminatory business practice.
now i wonder how many people are going to run to steams protection? politely flaming me for refusing to buy a newer version of windows. the same basic program with updated drivers. who will make comments about me being cheap, or poor, or "unenlightened"? i just refuse to allow anyone to extort money from me. those of you lacking in life experience, won't be able to see the extortion. those lacking in programming experience, who don't understand that binary code is, and until another primary language is created, the only language for hardware. binary is what the other codes translate to. because hardware is full of switches, 1's ans 0's for open and closed. if someone tries to tell me that upgrading my operating system, allows for a better picture from a graphics card, that is completely ridiculous. the operating system doesn't controls that. i know that is why the manufacturer of the hardware create drivers. windows is just using planned obsolescence, to keep the newer hardware from being used with older operating systems. not because of programming incompatibility, it's because microsoft decided which hardware each version would allowed to be compatible with.
in 5 years time microsoft will decide which new hardware wont be compatible with 10/ 11. this new operating system crap every so often is relatively new, 4 separate versions have occurred from xp pro (in my opinion microsoft's best) which was supported for longer than any 2 of the last 4 systems after it ( vista, 7, 8, 10/ 11). is 11 even a thing? i haven't seen it advertised by itself yet, just as an update for 10. hell i was actually buying and loading xp pro into computers when 8 started being sold. microsoft was still supporting it as well so if we look at it because of the crap microsoft pulled with the vista garbage, it took them almost 15 years to start making obsolete programs. so tell me, how does making a program that is unreliable at best. how does it become more reliable removing access?
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tirniel 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 4:27 
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
Stomp stomp hate on windows 10/11, just use Linux 1st world problem solved.
No matter how I like Linux, it's still have many problems as a gaming OS even after 'Linux gaming' was improving a lot with cause of steam deck -> proton. So not a panacea at all.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 5:55 
引用自 tirniel
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
Stomp stomp hate on windows 10/11, just use Linux 1st world problem solved.
No matter how I like Linux, it's still have many problems as a gaming OS even after 'Linux gaming' was improving a lot with cause of steam deck -> proton. So not a panacea at all.
That the thing, if someone hates w10/11 so badly, and refuse to use any logic, linux is their answer in the end, and just gonna have to learn, and adapt to solving their issue, or they can suck it up, take out the ear plugs, and take off the blind fold, and use w10/11 because that all they got for options.

Also for using linux have options from using Proton, Proton GE, Lutris, and other things with it such as DXVK, DXGL, and etc. Vulkan is a major benefit to solving some issues for DX games, the only drawback is if using a really old GPU that can't support Vulkan then that be real problem, basically using hardware that really old, and gonna have to figure out how to solving the issue really. Linux not prefect by any means, but it meets the things people that wears tin foil hat like their life depended on it.
Thermal Lance 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 6:05 
Yeah, Linux ain't so bad of an option. Hell it's the option I choosed. (EndeavourOS)

https://imgur.com/a/rEBkYqp

I ain't looking back now. Do all my games work? No. But, the vast majority does and it's a small price to pay to be "free" from the nonsense from Microsoft.
Qbert ⭐ 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 6:20 
引用自 xBCxRangers
引用自 Alex
jesus christ is this pointless argument going on windows 7 and 8 are going theres nothing you can do about it end of discussion

Ah, look who's back. All dressed up and doing the town. The break did you good. Anyhow, my night here is completed. Pile on at will (and thanks for the points).
Looks like yours didn't do anything...
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 6:41 
引用自 M3GAHURTZ
引用自 Bear
Just another troll that is wrong because the windows 8.1 version is installed on my PC and works just fine. So why don't your go troll your friends at Valve! And the links I provided shows that I am right and you are wrong.
I'm sorry but.. what? Did you not read the things you just linked to? They clearly say that in the future they will not work. It says nothing about working right now. That's not even in the articles you just linked to. ????????????? Are you seriously linking something and not reading it?:steamfacepalm:
That's pretty much the theme of most of their "Proof" Like Kitty earlier with browsers working fine on Windows XP earlier. Was like... did you even read what you linked, or tested? lol
Darkwave Dahlia 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:08 
You shall be graciously welcomed to return once you have taken the steps necessary to stay in the present, it matters not whether your account will remain stagnant in the absence of your activity. In the meanwhile, you continue to hold the role of a passively observing bystander or active participant in the discussion board - which still holds an amount of significance.
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:29 
引用自 kitty
引用自 Komarimaru
That's pretty much the theme of most of their "Proof" Like Kitty earlier with browsers working fine on Windows XP earlier. Was like... did you even read what you linked, or tested? lol

where is your proof of broken nav section? stop gaslighting and lying.
I already explained it. Just because HTML5 has been around a long time, does not mean it was adopted into browsers at the time. What's do difficult for you to understand that? I do know I was unable to log into my banks website on all the ones listed but one, the custom Palemoon branch, since it's a popup and focus to do so. Part of nav and section, which you ofc didn't know it seems.

I do know couldn't access Steam's store on said browsers either. But was able to view the store in the client, but unable to access download servers, but since I've a NAS, can download on my main rig to it, and then just pull it to one of my retro rigs. But you know this, since tried to gaslight me, by showing STEAM accessing, when the topic was BROWSERS.

And unlike you, I can actually test these things. Since I update my main rig as needed, and put older ones to rest if they still have a purpose, or donate the older hardware to others and store the rest.

But hey, again... Nice try. Windows 7 died in 2015, simple easy fact.
最后由 Komarimaru 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:29
kitty 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:52 
引用自 Komarimaru
I do know couldn't access Steam's store on said browsers either.

steam site doesn't use HTML5 (anyone can see it by checking the markup in developer tools). it should display just fine in any browser.

yet another lie.

why do you need to access your bank from win XP? are you that desperate and have no other PC to securely access your money?
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:53 
引用自 kitty
引用自 Komarimaru
I do know couldn't access Steam's store on said browsers either.

steam site doesn't use HTML5 (anyone can see it by checking the markup in developer tools). it should display just fine in any browser.

yet another lie.

why do you need to access your bank from win XP? are you that desperate and have no other PC to securely access your money?
I notice how you ignored the fact I couldn't log into my banks site. You love to pull things out fo context, to look right, when in turn it just shows how wrong you really are.

All you're doing, is showing others how feeble your fake arguments are.

You claimed Windows XP browsers fully work, I tested to see those claims were false. You are what we call, a google debater, and don't even bother to test said claims and make sure things work.

No idea why you're clinging to Windows 7. It was fine for it's time, but was just Vista SP3. You fell for the hype and marketing of the most advertised OS ever from Microsoft, yet seem to know so little about it.

I'm sure you're one of the people who fell for the ads, that Windows 7 was your idea lolol
最后由 Komarimaru 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 7:56
kitty 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 8:11 
引用自 Komarimaru
I notice how you ignored the fact I couldn't log into my banks site.


and it is just as it should be. you're clueless noob who can't tell HTML5 from a kitchen sink and malware from bank email. you shouldn't be able to access banking tool from outdated OS and it's great that your bank understands this issue and blocks you off.
outdated OSes should be used strictly for browsing and downloading from secure sites. so instead of preaching about dangers of using win7 you'd better get some training yourself.

引用自 Komarimaru
No idea why you're clinging to Windows 7

I'm not clinging to win7. I'm clinging to truth. while you abuse it and lie in every comment.
Darkwave Dahlia 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 8:11 
Kindly acknowledge the fact that there are select individuals who have a distaste for accepting the progression in technologies as well as current modern standards. As well as these people will accept the outcome of their decisions which shall cause a degree of discomfort and adverse effects on their future gaming experiences in this community. Not for us, of course….
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 8:13 
引用自 kitty
引用自 Komarimaru
I notice how you ignored the fact I couldn't log into my banks site.


and it is just as it should be. you're clueless noob who can't tell HTML5 from a kitchen sink and malware from bank email. you shouldn't be able to access banking tool from outdated OS and it's great that your bank understands this issue and blocks you off.
outdated OSes should be used strictly for browsing and downloading from secure sites. so instead of preaching about dangers of using win7 you'd better get some training yourself.

引用自 Komarimaru
No idea why you're clinging to Windows 7

I'm not clinging to win7. I'm clinging to truth. while you abuse it and lie in every comment.
You're the one who claimed browsers fully functioned, not me. Now you're back peddling since all your arguments and claims were shot down, burned to dust and scattered into the wind.

You're clinging to a dead OS. I don't know if due to poor hardware, or what. But you've had no valid reason whatsoever to not change. You'll be left behind, since refuse to advance with the times, as the other many times this has happened.

And I love how you're happy XP can't access all the webs features and Steam, yet in your ignorance, you want 7 to be able to access everything LOL
最后由 Komarimaru 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 8:22
kitty 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 8:55 
引用自 Komarimaru
You're clinging to a dead OS. I don't know if due to poor hardware, or what. But you've had no valid reason whatsoever to not change. You'll be left behind, since refuse to advance

gaslighting at its finest. working browsers in XP have nothing to do with win7 so why are you repeating that mantra over and over again?
speaking of poor hardware... I'm not trying to login to my bank from win XP. I'm not that desperate.
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 27 日 下午 9:21 
引用自 kitty
引用自 Komarimaru
You're clinging to a dead OS. I don't know if due to poor hardware, or what. But you've had no valid reason whatsoever to not change. You'll be left behind, since refuse to advance

gaslighting at its finest. working browsers in XP have nothing to do with win7 so why are you repeating that mantra over and over again?
speaking of poor hardware... I'm not trying to login to my bank from win XP. I'm not that desperate.
I used one of my retro rigs to test your supposed claims of XP browsers still working fine. It's fairly obvious I have a modern PC with modern high end hardware. You can even see the derpy artwork of it in my profile.

And you may need to look up what gaslighting is. Stating simple facts on what's going to happen, what's posted by Steam, and how all platforms are slowly removing support for Windows 7(for those who haven't already started), is not gaslighting.

You spreading misinformation and trying to convince others all will be fine though, is.
tirniel 2023 年 10 月 28 日 上午 12:32 
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
such as DXVK, DXGL, and etc.
As example, Linux users often have a problems with some games with cause of easy anty cheat (and so on) and devs, who do not want ro fix this issues. You even cannot play some games at all with some fishy reasons. So most of problems not via hardware at all. Some games can be even broken at all on the Linux no matter, what's you doing (mostly online or coop ones).

引用自 Komarimaru
Windows 7 died in 2015, simple easy fact.
That's why 3.33% worldwide still using it with 23.43% at the China only?)
https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/china

Before jan 2023 (including) worldwide percent had been 9.55 worldwide... So position about 2015 is not rellevant.
最后由 tirniel 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 28 日 上午 12:39
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