roflmao, really steam wont work for 7 in 2 months?

[cryofreeze666]

first things first what good is that going to do? not like valve had a program that worked with windows from the beginning. can't count how many times in the past that trying to turn off my computer i couldn't even force a computer shutdown because of steam. then you have the games that plain just don't work, and the games that in order to get them to work you have to jump through unreasonable hoops to get to work. so how is that all going to change, if i downgrade to the windows10/ 11 program that is so full of bloatware it won't matter how much money i've spent on a phone or computer the program wastes resources. switching operating systems, leaves me extremely skeptical, if they can't get their program to run smoothly in one format, how am i to believe it will run smoothly in another?
see i'm not a teenager who says what can you do about it, i want to be entertained now. i'm an adult that says, hey they have my money for past purchases, now their trying to take them away. that equates to nothing more than theft. if i can't use them, they need to figure out a way to refund my money or make them accessable. that is their responsibility since they chose this format to sell games in. not my responsibility to keep spending money in order to keep games i purchased over time. that equates to extortion. see why i hate this format for gaming, they hold your recreational investments hostage. some people may think that is ok, when it's extortion plain and simple.
you can say "advancement of technology" all you want, but i'm not young enough or dumb enough to believe that. the only advancement i will guess is the lines that identify the o.s., i doubt they'll have changed anything else. and the red line doesn't say it wont support windows7 it says it won't run, which means discriminatory business practice.
now i wonder how many people are going to run to steams protection? politely flaming me for refusing to buy a newer version of windows. the same basic program with updated drivers. who will make comments about me being cheap, or poor, or "unenlightened"? i just refuse to allow anyone to extort money from me. those of you lacking in life experience, won't be able to see the extortion. those lacking in programming experience, who don't understand that binary code is, and until another primary language is created, the only language for hardware. binary is what the other codes translate to. because hardware is full of switches, 1's ans 0's for open and closed. if someone tries to tell me that upgrading my operating system, allows for a better picture from a graphics card, that is completely ridiculous. the operating system doesn't controls that. i know that is why the manufacturer of the hardware create drivers. windows is just using planned obsolescence, to keep the newer hardware from being used with older operating systems. not because of programming incompatibility, it's because microsoft decided which hardware each version would allowed to be compatible with.
in 5 years time microsoft will decide which new hardware wont be compatible with 10/ 11. this new operating system crap every so often is relatively new, 4 separate versions have occurred from xp pro (in my opinion microsoft's best) which was supported for longer than any 2 of the last 4 systems after it ( vista, 7, 8, 10/ 11). is 11 even a thing? i haven't seen it advertised by itself yet, just as an update for 10. hell i was actually buying and loading xp pro into computers when 8 started being sold. microsoft was still supporting it as well so if we look at it because of the crap microsoft pulled with the vista garbage, it took them almost 15 years to start making obsolete programs. so tell me, how does making a program that is unreliable at best. how does it become more reliable removing access?

[Boblin the Goblin]

kitty a écrit :

SlowMango a écrit :

A heavy controlled version of Windows 7 with a heavy controlled version of Steam that isn't maintained by Valve.

probably we should ask our Chinese friends for an installer of their steam :)

First get a Chinese government ID and a Chinese version of Windows which allows the CCP access. Then once you install the Chinese client, you can enjoy that category of about 200 games.

[Piston Smashed™]

kitty a écrit :

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

The one which wants a dead OS kept alive which will cost money to do and doesn't buy anything or the one that spends money even though it is a smaller percentage of users than in other countries?

they said same thing about Linux users. "oh, there are few of them, they don't buy anything". and then this false narrative was debunked by developers who said Linux users spend more per user than Windows users.
claiming that people with win7 don't bring any income is just like that. win7 users support old classics and provide steady income for indies or old studios with back catalog.

The thing with Linux it has grown over the years, unlike Windows 7 which has got smaller over time right up to the point it is now a dead OS, put out of its misery by its creators Microsoft. Linux has never been killed, it has always been alive and thus growing to the point it is now a legitimate OS for people to use daily and getting better as time goes by as it constantly gets updated with new features. Windows 7 isn't, why? Because it isn't getting update with new features, it is old and well dead...

I used xBCxRangers as an example, to show that the percentages he was stating didn't mean anything when comparing them together. He has stated numerous times that he does not buy anymore on Steam. He isn't the only windows 7/8 user which has made this statement over the past 6/7 months.

[xBCxRangers]

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

kitty a écrit :

they said same thing about Linux users. "oh, there are few of them, they don't buy anything". and then this false narrative was debunked by developers who said Linux users spend more per user than Windows users.
claiming that people with win7 don't bring any income is just like that. win7 users support old classics and provide steady income for indies or old studios with back catalog.

The thing with Linux it has grown over the years, unlike Windows 7 which has got smaller over time right up to the point it is now a dead OS, put out of its misery by its creators Microsoft. Linux has never been killed, it has always been alive and thus growing to the point it is now a legitimate OS for people to use daily and getting better as time goes by as it constantly gets updated with new features. Windows 7 isn't, why? Because it isn't getting update with new features, it is old and well dead...

I used xBCxRangers as an example, to show that the percentages he was stating didn't mean anything when comparing them together. He has stated numerous times that he does not buy anymore on Steam. He isn't the only windows 7/8 user which has made this statement over the past 6/7 months.

"He has stated numerous times that he does not buy anymore on Steam".

I said i will not buy anything more on Steam, given this issue, obviously.

[BJWyler]

Tito Shivan a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

The verdict is in. The percentage of Win 7 and 8 users are of rough;y the same percentages of those who use Steam in countries like the UK, France, and at the least, Australia or Japan.

According to a very unreliable source.

Oh come on, we all know that facts don't matter to the righteous indignant.

The simple facts have not changed.
Windows 7 time is done.
Steam is rightfully dumping support in 2024.
It will not be postponed.
The vast majority of Steam users will continue to play their games with a smile on their face.
The righteous indignant will move on to the next manufactured crisis to knuckle their brow over.
End of story.

[xBCxRangers]

HaddockA a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Well it does work, and meets my minimal needs. And i haven't seen MS make any announcements, they're gonna brick my Win 7. Only Mr Newell is in lieu of my games, and truthfully, even that may not even happen, if we can pull the plug, not get the update and just remain offline, which is fine with me, but has not been clarified, which is ALL i'm asking, is for for clarification, from Valve, about what we can expect..

I've switched from Windows 7 to 10 recently, and I don't regret it for one second, regardless the fact that I still loved Windows 7.

Your problem is that you refuse to acknowledge that it's time to switch. Steam doesn't support Windows 7 soon, Ubisoft Connect refuses to run on Windows unless you apply all kind of trickery, heck some regular software won't even run on Windows 7 anymore like the note taking program Obsidian. And you know what? When I bought an RTX 3000 series graphics card last year, I couldn't use a lot of the awesome features like Image Scaling, DDR, DLSS, Ray Tracing, because Nvidia stopped supported Windows 7 a while back, and as a result their latest 7 driver is 473.81 (which doesn't support all that fancy stuff), when we're now on 545.92.

Heck, even if Steam would support Windows 7, you wouldn't be able to run tons of games out there. Are you one of these old guys who likes to be stuck in the past? Not an old guy like me, instead I decided to build a very powerful PC, installed Windows 10 and don't regret it for one second.

Get over it.... it's time to move on old man, stop fighting a battle you can't win, unless you like to live in the past with all that outdated hard- and software of yours.

You can build any PC you want. I think its a waste of money. If you want to be hip and get with the times, buy a console like most the world like me does.

Until then, Old Man Newell can sack all of Japan, being there's as many of them, as there are Win 7 users, and like us, old like Win 7, and are not going to buy many games.

[Thermal Lance]

Windows 7 might be done for. But, holy cow are some people fighting for it.

It's just an OS. Let it go.

[Piston Smashed™]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

The thing with Linux it has grown over the years, unlike Windows 7 which has got smaller over time right up to the point it is now a dead OS, put out of its misery by its creators Microsoft. Linux has never been killed, it has always been alive and thus growing to the point it is now a legitimate OS for people to use daily and getting better as time goes by as it constantly gets updated with new features. Windows 7 isn't, why? Because it isn't getting update with new features, it is old and well dead...

I used xBCxRangers as an example, to show that the percentages he was stating didn't mean anything when comparing them together. He has stated numerous times that he does not buy anymore on Steam. He isn't the only windows 7/8 user which has made this statement over the past 6/7 months.

"He has stated numerous times that he does not buy anymore on Steam".

I said i will not buy anything more on Steam, given this issue, obviously.

Proves my point then that your 2% (Windows 7/8 users) cannot be compared to my 2% (UK users) because I will buy on Steam.

[xBCxRangers]

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

"He has stated numerous times that he does not buy anymore on Steam".

I said i will not buy anything more on Steam, given this issue, obviously.

Proves my point then that your 2% (Windows 7/8 users) cannot be compared to my 2% (UK users) because I will buy on Steam. :spazwinky:

Well if i was assured i can play my games beyond Jan i'd buy them. Who would under this circumstance?

Ive also stated on many occasions i'm willing to pay an annual fee for Steam, if it means access to my games w/o the risk of losing them, and better service.

[Piston Smashed™]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

Proves my point then that your 2% (Windows 7/8 users) cannot be compared to my 2% (UK users) because I will buy on Steam.

Well if i was assured i can play my games beyond Jan i'd buy them. Who would under this circumstance?

Ive also stated on many occasions i'm willing to pay an annual fee for Steam, if it means access to my games w/o the risk of losing them, and better service.

You can play your games beyond Jan, you just have to step in to the future and click your heels three times, saying I love Steam.

[xBCxRangers]

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Well if i was assured i can play my games beyond Jan i'd buy them. Who would under this circumstance?

Ive also stated on many occasions i'm willing to pay an annual fee for Steam, if it means access to my games w/o the risk of losing them, and better service.

You can play your games beyond Jan, you just have to step in to the future and click your heels three times, saying I love Steam.

LOL, look this is the cunundrum that people don't want to believe. I do love Steam, and have not had any problems or issues, other than moderation, and this very matter.

If i didn't enjoy the service, why would i make deal of it?

But i'm NOT going to buy new computers, to play old games. And for new games on Steam, i have Ge Force Now on my Xbox.

If Mr Newell had a stream service like they, where i can access my games i'm losing thr streaming, i'd be paying him, and likely, not even on these forums.

[Boblin the Goblin]

xBCxRangers a écrit :

Piston Smashed™ a écrit :

You can play your games beyond Jan, you just have to step in to the future and click your heels three times, saying I love Steam.

LOL, look this is the cunundrum that people don't want to believe. I do love Steam, and have not had any problems or issues, other than moderation, and this very matter.

If i didn't enjoy the service, why would i make deal of it?

But i'm NOT going to buy new computers, to play old games. And for new games on Steam, i have Ge Force Now on my Xbox.

If Mr Newell had a stream service like they, where i can access my games i'm losing thr streaming, i'd be paying him, and likely, not even on these forums.

Don't know why you had the idea a $200-$300(when new) light business computer that is almost 10 years old wouldn't need to be replaced soon if you wanted to keep playing games.

[xBCxRangers]

If Mr Newell came to me and said, "Ranger, we cant support Win 7 anymore, but, we're offering a Stream service, where you can keep all your games, even buy new ones, on your Xbox for 60 (usd) a year", i'd pay him in a HEARTBEAT.

End this folly. We Win 7 users want our STEAM, Mr Newell

[AlexTheRedScout]

jesus christ is this pointless argument going on windows 7 and 8 are going theres nothing you can do about it end of discussion

[xBCxRangers]

Alex a écrit :

jesus christ is this pointless argument going on windows 7 and 8 are going theres nothing you can do about it end of discussion

Ah, look who's back. All dressed up and doing the town. The break did you good. Anyhow, my night here is completed. Pile on at will (and thanks for the points).

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Stomp stomp hate on windows 10/11, just use Linux 1st world problem solved.