I actually bought lots of games for my older window 7 PC laptop.

[Night]

I like those old games, Total war Rome 1, Romance of three kingdom 7-12, Games from Slitherine (War in the east etc) and Lots. Some of the older games are really expensive. I think if Steam keep forcing me upgrading my PC will stop me from buying older games or eventually newer game titles from steam at all (my poor SIm 3 completely collection, they were bought and planned to be played on windows 7, but i never have time for playing them).

I m no expert on programming nor security. Probably it is the best move for everyone to move to new OS since Sony's PSstore is hacked recently.

It is just that i doubt i will have any motivation at all to upgrade my PC again and again just to make them compatiable with newer OS.

I have a lots of electronic devices, Apple devices, Google's devices, windows devices, Sony gaming handheld. The reason why i mainly buy software for windows and completely move away from Apple is i dont need to constantly upgrade my OS. Upgrading OS most of the time will just make older software obsolete. And with steam's newer decision to completely moving away from Windows 7, windows 8. Yes it will obsolete several of my older laptops ( those from 2010 to 2016).

Laptops are stuff that were extremely expensive especially those gaming one. And i not sure if it is going to be the last straw that kill the camel (buying expensive game laptop/ gaming on PC). As these gaming laptop really dont have much option for upgrading their OS. Some will have very serious compatibility issues like missing custom drivers from manufacturor, several physical buttons not working, and lots other)

Maybe it is time for me to reevaluate my relationship with my suppliers?

[Muppet among Puppets]

Mr. Smiles eredeti hozzászólása:

The ultimate reason in every single one of these threads just boils down to "I don't wanna."

71.

Also people buy a computer with an os, and then they think its a "win 7 pc".

[lsdninja]

Muppet among Puppets eredeti hozzászólása:

Also people buy a computer with an os, and then they think its a "win 7 pc".

The little stickers that advertise a specific version of the OS didn’t help with these sorts of perceptions, which is likely why the newer ones just say “Windows”…

[rawWwRrr]

Night eredeti hozzászólása:

And with steam's newer decision to completely moving away from Windows 7, windows 8. Yes it will obsolete several of my older laptops ( those from 2010 to 2016).

Windows 10 minimum system requirements:

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster processor or SoC
RAM: 1 gigabyte (GB) for 32-bit or 2 GB for 64-bit
Hard disk space: 16 GB for 32-bit OS or 20 GB for 64-bit OS
Graphics card: DirectX 9 or later with WDDM 1.0 driver
Display: 800 x 600

Intel's CPUs released in 2010, the 2nd Gen Intel Core, had initial clock speeds of 3.8GHz. Basically, you could run Windows 10 on PCs with CPUs from 2000 onward. That's 23 years worth of hardware that Windows 10 is compatible with.

And, yes, while Windows 10 is due to EOS in a couple of years with Windows 11 having strict hardware requirements is a future filled with doom and uncertainty, for now at least you have an option. But as others have said, it's probably more that you don't want to rather than it actually being an impossibility.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Chelle eredeti hozzászólása:

I would be tempted to look for a cheap PC for sale. One with Windows ten compatibility. It does not need to have bells and whistles.

You dont buy a computer to fit to win 10.
10 is gone in 2 years.

You very likely can use your old computer for that

[lsdninja]

Muppet among Puppets eredeti hozzászólása:

You dont buy a computer to fit to win 10.
10 is gone in 2 years.

You very likely can use your old computer for that

Windows 10 will limp along for years after the official ending of support the same way that 7, XP and 98SE did. You can even do the unsupported install of Windows 11 on a lot of this "Windows 10" hardware, you just have to remember that that's entirely at Microsoft's discretion and could change at any time.

[Crazy Tiger]

Those games will run fine on Win 10 as well. Or Linux.

Night eredeti hozzászólása:

But i doubt it is a wise decision if there are still 2% active users.

It's a minority of users, one that has been declining even further since the announcement came. By the time Jan 2024 hits, it will be probably 1% or less.

It was the same the previous 3 times Valve dropped support for older Windows versions. When XP/Vista got dropped Jan 2019 the threads were almost identical to now. Back then people too argued that Valve couldn't be dropping X% of users.

Reality is that not every user/customer is worth equal. Heck, some customers aren't even worth keeping, so to say. The ones who want to stay on Win 7/8 are called "acceptable losses" in business.

[LoveAndPeace]

i can totally understand that it's a waste of work for such a small group of users.
steam could put that time and effort into tasks that earn more.
it really would distribute too much work force.

[Chika Ogiue]

Night eredeti hozzászólása:

By the way, according to data from google, there are 132 million active steam users. So 2% of windows 7,8 users =2.64 million?

Windows users account for 96.94% of all Steam users. Windows 7, 7 (64), and Windows 8.1 combined account for 1.47% of that 96.94%. So let's assume the figure you found is correct. In which case there are 127,960,800 active Steam users on a version of Windows. Of that 1,881,024 users are on one of the versions of Windows that is now obsolete. That number is steadily dropping month on month. By January 2024, that'll be down to less than 1 million.

That also means that there are 126,079,776 active Steam users on a supported version of Windows. The vast majority of them being on Windows 10 (73,088,446 users).

Point being, Valve can happily afford to lose that 1 million odd who refuse to upgrade. They aren't buying anything current anyway.

[Justice]

Chika Ogiue eredeti hozzászólása:

Point being, Valve can happily afford to lose that 1 million odd who refuse to upgrade. They aren't buying anything current anyway.

Now that's a lie, Windows 7 users will buy games that capable running on windows 7. And what about Linux? they can run some steam games and have just as small user base, but I don't see Valve declaring cutting support for Linux despite being old asf

[Eagle_of_Fire]

Mr. Smiles eredeti hozzászólása:

The ultimate reason in every single one of these threads just boils down to "I don't wanna."

71.

Which is a totally legit reason. You are also completely dismissing the actual reasoning behind that "I don't wanna" which make that post of yours completely dishonest.

Financial pressure is just a valid reason than any others, if not one of the most common and legit. Wanting to keep software running on hardware which is still running fine is also completely logical. That hyper consumerism trend is what is stupid.

Justice eredeti hozzászólása:

Chika Ogiue eredeti hozzászólása:

Point being, Valve can happily afford to lose that 1 million odd who refuse to upgrade. They aren't buying anything current anyway.

Now that's a lie, Windows 7 users will buy games that capable running on windows 7. And what about Linux? they can run some steam games and have just as small user base, but I don't see Valve declaring cutting support for Linux despite being old asf

It is absolutely no secret that the only reason why Steam is dropping support for Windows 7 is because Chromium does it and they can't be arsed to fix it.

[🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽]

Yeah, the free update to Windows 10 was quite expensive I have to say ...

[Start_Running]

Justice eredeti hozzászólása:

Chika Ogiue eredeti hozzászólása:

Point being, Valve can happily afford to lose that 1 million odd who refuse to upgrade. They aren't buying anything current anyway.

Now that's a lie, Windows 7 users will buy games that capable running on windows 7. And what about Linux? they can run some steam games and have just as small user base, but I don't see Valve declaring cutting support for Linux despite being old asf

Becauuse the security certificates are not tied to the linux os. It's just a difference in OS design. MS did it one way which created this issue, and L:Inux did it anotherway which avoids the issue.

Linux gets a pass because A.) Gabe has been questiing to push the industry away from depending on microsoft. B.) It doesn't require much on their part.

[morrisseyshair]

According to the latest Steam charts, 1.29% of Steam users are running Windows 7. That’s statistically nothing.

[Hobbit XIII]

Dual boot Linux has been suggested by the community here. You keep your windows OS and add a Linux to your computer too.

You will get to stay up to date for free with a system that according to the people eats a lot less power.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Justice eredeti hozzászólása:

Chika Ogiue eredeti hozzászólása:

Point being, Valve can happily afford to lose that 1 million odd who refuse to upgrade. They aren't buying anything current anyway.

Now that's a lie, Windows 7 users will buy games that capable running on windows 7. And what about Linux? they can run some steam games and have just as small user base, but I don't see Valve declaring cutting support for Linux despite being old asf

Linux is an alternative, and it gets updates.
Linux is what you actually want when you argue that win 7 should not be replaced by win 10.
Its ironic how in your post you call it "old". Its just not sold "again".