9900k and 4070 ti = bottleneck??

[Patryk]

Hi,

I want to upgrade my pc from old 2070s. My dream is 4070 ti but I won't to touch rest of my pc.

Do you have this spec and could you tell me how is it works in modern games in 1440p?

Is it worth or this gpu just kill my cpu and my fps will ne same like before update ?

I'm only want ultra setting without shuttering and drops below 60 in newest games

[nullable]

Is the point of upgrades to improve system performance, or avoid bottlenecks?

Are you asking if my 12700k + 4070 ti would get better performance than a 9900k + 4070 ti, yes a 12700k is significantly faster and that will yield better overall performance in a lot of cases.

Would a 9900k + 4070 ti get better performance than a 9900k + 2070 Super? Yes most of the time, except maybe in cases where a game is severely CPU bottlenecked, but that's a game issue and the odd game here or there shouldn't dissuade you from upgrading.

There's always a bottleneck, there's no perfect/optimal configurations. Focus on improving performance, not avoiding bottlenecks.

Also until May 2022 I wasn't having an issue running games at 1440p on an i7 8700k and a 2080 Super (I replaced that system though). You can run games fine on a 9900k/4070 ti at 1440p.

[Patryk]

Originally posted by nullable:

Is the point of upgrades to improve system performance, or avoid bottlenecks?

Are you asking if my 12700k + 4070 ti would get better performance than a 9900k + 4070 ti, yes a 12700k is significantly faster and that will yield better overall performance in a lot of cases.

Would a 9900k + 4070 ti get better performance than a 9900k + 2070 Super? Yes most of the time, except maybe in cases where a game is severely CPU bottlenecked, but that's a game issue and the odd game here or there shouldn't dissuade you from upgrading.

There's always a bottleneck, there's no perfect/optimal configurations. Focus on improving performance, not avoiding bottlenecks.

Also until May 2022 I wasn't having an issue running games at 1440p on an i7 8700k and a 2080 Super (I replaced that system though). You can run games fine on a 9900k/4070 ti at 1440p.

I just want more fps but don't want to swap everything.

I rly think between 4070 and ti model. But I think 4070 not give you a such beautifull gains.

I know bottleneck issues and I'm scary of situation that I don't get fps improve in games or get similar result to my old 2070 ;)

[nullable]

Originally posted by Patryk:

I just want more fps but don't want to swap everything.

I rly think between 4070 and ti model. But I think 4070 not give you a such beautifull gains.

I know bottleneck issues and I'm scary of situation that I don't get fps improve in games or get similar result to my old 2070 ;)

Unless all the games you play are severely CPU bound I don't think your fears are rational. You'd be silly to think that your 2070 Super is the pinnacle GPU that your 9900K can manage to run and any more powerful GPU will be hamstrung and only perform equivalently to a 2070 Super.

So, why do you think that's even a possibility?

[Sir Gnomag]

It is all dependant on your wifi speeds. If that is low it wont matter much how you upgrade your computer after a certain point.

[nullable]

Originally posted by Sir Gnomag:

It is all dependant on your wifi speeds. If that is low it wont matter much how you upgrade your computer after a certain point.

WTF do wifi speeds have to do with GPU upgrades/performance? A big fat nothing is what.

[Patryk]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by Patryk:

I just want more fps but don't want to swap everything.

I rly think between 4070 and ti model. But I think 4070 not give you a such beautifull gains.

I know bottleneck issues and I'm scary of situation that I don't get fps improve in games or get similar result to my old 2070 ;)

Unless all the games you play are severely CPU bound I don't think your fears are rational. You'd be silly to think that your 2070 Super is the pinnacle GPU that your 9900K can manage to run and any more powerful GPU will be hamstrung and only perform equivalently to a 2070 Super.

So, why do you think that's even a possibility?

I saw charts on YouTube and many comparison to 13 gen. Diffs are huge and I feel like this cpu from 2018 can't hold once of the fastest gpu on market

[nullable]

Well as I said if you compared my 12700k/4070 ti to a 9900k/4070ti then sure the 12700k is going to get better overall performance most of the time. Better hardware gets better performance. That's not rocket surgery.

If you compare a 9900k/4070ti to a 9900k/2070S the former is going to beat the pants off the latter.

Would you care to link to the video, because my feeling is you're extrapolating that since newer CPU's are significantly more powerful that means upgrading an old system is futile. Which is nonsense.

Better hardware existing doesn't somehow magically cripple older hardware and prevent upgrades from improving performance. Never has, never will.

[.EteRnal.]

Originally posted by Sir Gnomag:

It is all dependant on your wifi speeds. If that is low it wont matter much how you upgrade your computer after a certain point.

?????

[Ogami]

According to Bottleneck Calculator sites, yes, the 9900k is a big bottleneck for a 4070Ti.
You lose up to 40% performance.

https://prnt.sc/txS04A7M97C0

Even your old 2070 has a slight 8% bottleneck.
So i dont recommend going much higher GPU wise unless you also switch out your CPU.

[Patryk]

Originally posted by Ogami:

According to Bottleneck Calculator sites, yes, the 9900k is a big bottleneck for a 4070Ti.
You lose up to 40% performance.

https://prnt.sc/txS04A7M97C0

Even your old 2070 has a slight 8% bottleneck.
So i dont recommend going much higher GPU wise unless you also switch out your CPU.

Don't check this useless page xD

[Ogami]

Originally posted by Patryk:

Don't check this useless page xD

Every single bottleneck calculator site and every benchmark site shows that the 4070Ti will be severely bottlenecked by a 9900k. If you dont want to hear the answer, why ask?
Of course it will still perform better then your current 2070 but you will be giving away a lot of performance regardless unless you pair it with a better CPU.

The 9900k is nearly 6 years old by now, its starting to show its age. Its still a very good CPU if paired with the correct GPU, but the 4070Ti is a bit out of its league.

[Patryk]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Originally posted by Patryk:

Don't check this useless page xD

Every single bottleneck calculator site and every benchmark site shows that the 4070Ti will be severely bottlenecked by a 9900k. If you dont want to hear the answer, why ask?
Of course it will still perform better then your current 2070 but you will be giving away a lot of performance regardless unless you pair it with a better CPU.

The 9900k is nearly 6 years old by now, its starting to show its age. Its still a very good CPU if paired with the correct GPU, but the 4070Ti is a bit out of its league.

I know it, thats why i think about normal 4070 but its 2 years old 3080 but with dlss 3.0
Before 4 series i think a lot of people match 3080 with 9900k and it works pretty well.
4070TI is a bit faster and that's my question isnt too much :D

I did this topic couse wanted to find ppl with these specification and read them opinnions

[☎need4naiim☎]

Originally posted by Sir Gnomag:

It is all dependant on your wifi speeds. If that is low it wont matter much how you upgrade your computer after a certain point.

It is funny that "gamers" couldn't get what you meant in this post.

It shouldn't be hard for a gamer to understand what is meant in there.

You deserve a CLEVER award, pal.