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[Win7User]

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[RasaNova]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Bulk Responding: (Updated)

Question: "Why don't you just upgrade your computer?"
Response: "Why don't you just upgrade your kid?"

VERY bad analogy. Any good parent will be constantly "upgrading" their kids. Are you seriously implying you wouldn't constantly seek to improve the quality of their lives as they grow up?

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "Win7 users are only 2% of Steam users so they don't matter."
Response: "Native Americans are only 2% of the population of the US. They don't matter?"

Playing the minority card in this context seems very disingenuous. Yes, likely over a million gamers will be affected, and it really is unfortunate that Valve has decided it's not financially feasible to re-create their framework, or to create a separate platform which would work with every obsolete operating system. And as much as the situation sucks (and it does) it is understandable.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "Using Win7 is a security risk. You could get viruses."
Response: "Yep. That's why my computer always uses a condom when accessing the internet."

Antivirus will not patch vulnerabilities in an OS.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "You still have access to your games"
Response: "No duh. But I should have them on the system they're already on."

Welcome to digital distribution with DRM authentication. This is the tradeoff for the benefits, features, and convenience the gaming community as a whole decided they wanted.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "Just upgrade to Win10. It's free."
Response. "No it's not."

True. It was for a long time, now it's not. If money is the only thing keeping you from your Steam client you'd need to choose a different free OS.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "You know, Win10 has backwards compatibility."
Response. "Yep. I've been dealing with windows "backwards compatibility" since XP and it's always done the same thing... Not worked. Patches, fixes, hacks and cracks are the only thing what works and I already did all that to get my games working on Win7."

Generally if it works on 7 it should work on 10. In some cases (Max Payne for example) it was actually easier to get working on 10.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "You're (insert insult here)."
Response: "I know."

Nah, you're not. You're just a frustrated gamer because of something out of your control, and that is relatable. No call for anyone to be disrespectful, on any side of an argument.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Question: "Why should Valve have to keep updating the Win7 client so you can keep buying games and playing multiplayer."
Response: "You don't understand any of this do you?"

May as well ask "why should valve keep moving their platform forward to meet the evolving needs of their product and their customers" and the answer should be obvious. It's unfortunate that these changes don't work for everyone, and there will be some who are unwilling or unable to keep up.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "Look at this (EULA paragraph whatever). See you're wrong."
Response: "All those agreements are irrelevant and nobody reads them. Also... That makes them right and worth defending? An agreement nobody even remembers clicking past?

Nobody is "defending" the terms we said we agree to. Nobody says "Oh yeah I love this legalese, give me more!" But it's there, and we SAID we agree, even if we did not, or if we ignored it and just clicked the little box so we could play our game. And that thing we said we agree with had the relevant information of what we could expect to happen with this product.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Thought: "Haha, this doesn't affect me because I use Win10."
Response: "That's what I thought when they did this to XP."

Yep, XP was great. And you continued drinking that sweet Windows Koolaid, just like I've been doing since I caved in and bought a Windows PC in the 90s after being very anti-wondows for years, but it gave me what I wanted so I've been using it ever since.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Statement: "All support has to end sometime."
Response: "Yes, I know and accept that. But does it have to include a sabotage update that breaks the console, a doomsday countdown timer I cant make go away that's making my hair fall out and not so much as an email from Steam apologizing for the inconvenience? Topped with mockery, insults and zero understanding from a huge community that refuses to see the problem through my eyes? And every time I try to vent your frustration or talk about it on their forums I just get banned? Does it have to come with all that?"

If people seem harsh, it's because this is a public forum where people can anonymously say what they want, so let's just say we're not always seeing the best of humanity. And this whole thing has become a polarizing issue with people on both sides going to extremes, so when people come in with statements like "Valve is stealing my games" "Valve has no right to do this" "Valve owes a refund for my entire library" and so on, it's normal for others to want to correct what they see as misinformation, some with less tact than others.

They gave us 4 years beyond the official end of Windows 7, and nearly a year notice of this change. Maybe there is more that Valve could be doing, maybe by the time they end Windows 10 they'll find a better solution. But I wouldn't count on it.

[Kava]

Humanity is so absurd its self destructing itself.
At least this thread is better than watching the news and giving me more hope so have my award nova.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

Response: "Yes, I know and accept that. But does it have to include a sabotage update that breaks the console, a doomsday countdown timer I cant make go away that's making my hair fall out and not so much as an email from Steam apologizing for the inconvenience? Topped with mockery, insults and zero understanding from a huge community that refuses to see the problem through my eyes? And every time I try to vent your frustration or talk about it on their forums I just get banned? Does it have to come with all that?"

Microsoft told you windows 7 support was ending 7 years ago. Steam told you when windows 7 support for Steam would end starting 10 months ago. Why are you waiting until now, about 60 some odd days from the deadline to finally say something about it? Why didn't you upgrade to windows 10 some time within the past 7 years (preferably during the period when it was offered to you for free)?

You have had more than enough time to figure out how to do this and you were even given a free upgrade. You didn't take the free upgrade and you procrastinated and waited until almost the last moment. You created this situation.

[🅷🅴🆇🅴🅽]

What has that amount ( 5162.21 ) to do with the decision to leave Steam? Do you consider that a lot of money? Or why the fuss?

[Caduryn]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

"I have no interest in buying new video games because they all suck." -Me
"Then go away" -Valve
"But what about the games a bought?" -Me
"We're taking them back" -Valve
"That was the right decision Valve." -The Public

No one is taking anything from you, beside.... YOU

You also signed the ToS by creating your Steam Account


And again, in the End......



No one cares, as with Win XP

[Zefar]

I'll give him a week after Win10 becomes mandatory before he switches over.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

"I have no interest in buying new video games because they all suck." -Me
"Then go away" -Valve
"But what about the games a bought?" -Me
"We're taking them back" -Valve
You can still access them when you decide to update your PC, sorry for the inconvenience -Valve

Fixed the quote.

[Caduryn]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Zefar:

I'll give him a week after Win10 becomes mandatory before he switches over.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

"I have no interest in buying new video games because they all suck." -Me
"Then go away" -Valve
"But what about the games a bought?" -Me
"We're taking them back" -Valve
You can still access them when you decide to update your PC, sorry for the inconvenience -Valve

Fixed the quote.

This is just a Jester farming Topic anyway. ^^

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

"I have no interest in buying new video games because they all suck." -Me

And? No one said you need to buy, or play games you don't like, or want.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

"Then go away" -Valve
"But what about the games a bought?" -Me

Either use supported OS, or you can just choose to block yourself from your own games because you don't want to use supported OS, it's not hard to figure out.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Buckles:

"We're taking them back" -Valve
"That was the right decision Valve." -The Public

Cool story, but account doesn't go anyway, you choosing to block yourself from your own games is your choice, either use supported OS, or pound sand that just how it is for last 16 years...

[xBCxRangers]

The regular suspects, show up yet again. Our OP pillaried, queried, made suspect, accused, called insults and names. Gabesplaining. And for what?

For wanting to keep the games he earned, bought and owned, being blocked or in essence taken away, for art not return.

For SHAME, Mr Newell

[76561199559798421]

The joke is - Realizing you paid to much for Car insurance.

The truth is - small amount of money for entertainment

The Reality is - Not Updating your Operating system for 100 dollars will cost you 5000 dollars
in Goods.

The Reasoning - Everything Costs money and the older it gets the more money you have to put into it maintain it, Steam is no exception.

The Fact - That over the 20 years steam has been active i have had to pay for Internet service to access steam, usally a average of 60 dollars a month if not more, so 60 dollars x 20 years (20X12= 240 months x 60 dollars = 240x60 = 14,400 dollars for internet in 20 years

let me give it to you straight

computer cost = 1500 and lasts about 5 years

internet costs to use it = 3000 dollars in 5 years average

Steam cost to use it = 0 in 20 years

Updating your Windows Operating system to use all this stuff = Priceless.

[lsdninja]

Opprinnelig skrevet av xBCxRangers:

The regular suspects, show up yet again. Our OP pillaried, queried, made suspect, accused, called insults and names. Gabesplaining. And for what?

For wanting to keep the games he earned, bought and owned, being blocked or in essence taken away, for art not return.

For SHAME, Mr Newell

Eh, OPs been around long enough to know what to expect.

[Caduryn]

Opprinnelig skrevet av xBCxRangers:

The regular suspects, show up yet again. Our OP pillaried, queried, made suspect, accused, called insults and names. Gabesplaining. And for what?

For wanting to keep the games he earned, bought and owned, being blocked or in essence taken away, for art not return.

For SHAME, Mr Newell

Make Troll Topics, get troll replys


Its that easy

[xBCxRangers]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Caduryn:

Opprinnelig skrevet av xBCxRangers:

The regular suspects, show up yet again. Our OP pillaried, queried, made suspect, accused, called insults and names. Gabesplaining. And for what?

For wanting to keep the games he earned, bought and owned, being blocked or in essence taken away, for art not return.

For SHAME, Mr Newell

Make Troll Topics, get troll replys


Its that easy

I wish it was that easy, but moderation seems to pick on some, and not others. Accordingst to them, three quarters of those replying here, should be banned, and if it was me, would have been.

Though i don't understand how someone complaning hes gonna lose thousands of dollars worth of games is trolling anyone. Though the responses sure have been. What a mess.

[Leader of the Zakonistians]

I'm surprised no one has taken the title of this thread to make a Linkin Park reference.

[Caduryn]

Opprinnelig skrevet av xBCxRangers:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Caduryn:

Make Troll Topics, get troll replys


Its that easy

I wish it was that easy, but moderation seems to pick on some, and not others. Accordingst to them, three quarters of those replying here, should be banned, and if it was me, would have been.

Though i don't understand how someone complaning hes gonna lose thousands of dollars worth of games is trolling anyone. Though the responses sure have been. What a mess.

Let me guess.... you would ban everyone saying to upgrade your insane outdated 20 Years old OS....?


And btw.... he doesnt lose anything

HE signed a Contract creating his Account, not Valves problem if he breach said Contract


But to who i am talking about, its just 2 People that get a insane mental breakdown about stopping a not supported since 20 Years old OS