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Fix Crazy Regional Price Suggestions by Steam.
From 80% to 500% price hike in various regions of the world has made purchasing game on steam impossible. India , Turkey , Asia , South America even countries outside these regions have faced severe price hike.. who do you surve Valve? It appears that you don't think about your customer base at all.
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Isn't that down to the developers who set the prices?
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
Yet another thread from you about region hopping no longer being an option because Valve plugged the hole.
最近の変更はNx Machinaが行いました; 2023年10月19日 9時33分
Sharki 2023年10月19日 8時04分 
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用:
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
No .... Here is the hard facts...
1.whenever a publisher wants to set a price of a game in Steam , there is a suggestion price from Steam . Publisher can make a estimation using that suggested price . Publisher can ignore the regional price suggested by Valve , give exactly same price as suggestions or even give higher price than that price.

Valve has increased that suggested price from 80% to 500 % REGION WISE. That's why regional price having this kind of Crazy price hike.
so do valve make up these prices and just put them out there...
Third world countries have been having a good time up till now, but your currency is currently dropping hard, some are so worthless that if we would sell it at your price level we wouldn't even make 1 cent out of if.

So the problem is your currency isn't really able to generate good value.
esfar3 の投稿を引用:
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用:
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
No .... Here is the hard facts...
1.whenever a publisher wants to set a price of a game in Steam , there is a suggestion price from Steam . Publisher can make a estimation using that suggested price . Publisher can ignore the regional price suggested by Valve , give exactly same price as suggestions or even give higher price than that price.

Valve has increased that suggested price from 80% to 500 % REGION WISE. That's why regional price having this kind of Crazy price hike.
You do realize Steam only made the changes to suggestion pricing a year ago, this isn't recent thing this year.
https://steamdb.info/blog/valve-price-matrix-2022-update/

And if you're from Argentina, or Turkey you already WELL know the problem for your currency having a hyperinflation problem, so there not much can be done. Steam make the suggestions for PRICE value to USD hence the link above. If dev want $1 USD they look at what suggested for that price range to be around $1 USD, hence the point of it.

Again most do not follow what Steam suggest, and always been up to game devs/publishers, if you want prices to be lowerd, take it up with the game dev/publisher that are setting the price hence my point from last post.
esfar3 の投稿を引用:
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 の投稿を引用:
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
No .... Here is the hard facts...
1.whenever a publisher wants to set a price of a game in Steam , there is a suggestion price from Steam . Publisher can make a estimation using that suggested price . Publisher can ignore the regional price suggested by Valve , give exactly same price as suggestions or even give higher price than that price.

Valve has increased that suggested price from 80% to 500 % REGION WISE. That's why regional price having this kind of Crazy price hike.

And? Some regions need to have their prices increased, having absurdly low prices harms Valve, and developers and makes region hopping attractive. People don't like prices going up, and they're not keen to accept any explanation that upsets the status quo they were happy with. There's no point trying to appease them at the expense of all other concerns.

Valve is allowed to recommend whatever they want. And whether or not a publisher goes with their recommendation, or decides to set their own prices are both decisions made by the publisher. Hoping you can manipulate/trick publishers into under pricing games by exploiting Valve's recommendations is a fool's errand.

You don't like Valve's decisions. Valve didn't spin their Wheel-of-Cruelty to arrive at those values. Deal with it.
最近の変更はnullableが行いました; 2023年10月19日 8時18分
Sharki 2023年10月19日 8時18分 
Nx Machina の投稿を引用:
Yet another thread from you about region hopping no longer being an option because Valve plugged the hole.
Plug and hole would be justifiable if I was a consumer from USA using a Argentina account. But Valve actually did a price hiking for people who lives in India , Turkey, Russia, Eastern Europe,south America which is not the right think todo.

... They could have punished those people who have ips from western countries like USA , Uk but buys from Argentina... But what they did was punishing people from rest of the world.
Sharki 2023年10月19日 8時20分 
Valves regional games sales will take a dive. Infact they have dived if they don't change their way.
You've made many of these threads across the game hubs for months. Simply put, the currency isn't valuable at all. Between that fact and when Valve clamped down on region hopping, Developers appear to be deciding they never want that to happen again, so they use the suggested price or quite often - charge more than the recommended price.

Any countries with very little currency value have to help themselves to fix that problem. Going from hub to hub as most of the history if a Dev sees that, will most likely just make them double down on keeping the price. Some will even increase the price as a reaction. Indies are typically the only ones that will consider different prices, but if they also see 1.7k games on an account complaining about prices, they're going to know theres no issue affording games.
esfar3 の投稿を引用:
Valves regional games sales will take a dive. Infact they have dived if they don't change their way.

Perhaps "making a sale" at all costs, even for pennies on the dollar isn't the only/ultimate goal for a business.

So you say that like it's a problem, but either you don't understand why it's not, or you really think Valve might do whatever it takes to increase or maintain the volume of sales in low value regions at the expense of all other concerns. That's some misguided wishful thinking methinks.

esfar3 の投稿を引用:
Nx Machina の投稿を引用:
Yet another thread from you about region hopping no longer being an option because Valve plugged the hole.
Plug and hole would be justifiable if I was a consumer from USA using a Argentina account. But Valve actually did a price hiking for people who lives in India , Turkey, Russia, Eastern Europe,south America which is not the right think todo.

When you own a stake in Valve your opinion will matter. Until then, it doesn't.

esfar3 の投稿を引用:
... They could have punished those people who have ips from western countries like USA , Uk but buys from Argentina... But what they did was punishing people from rest of the world.

Price increases aren't punitive and the lost value of many of the currencies is much much bigger issue. If a currency loses a large amount of value, prices need to go up to offset the lost value. pretending otherwise isn't the sort of ignorance that gets results.
最近の変更はnullableが行いました; 2023年10月19日 8時31分
esfar3 の投稿を引用:
Valves regional games sales will take a dive. Infact they have dived if they don't change their way.
You might want to consider that Valve, and perhaps even the game devs and publishjers, care less about that than you.

Not every market is equally important. And regions that got used a lot by hoppers to get cheaper games might not be up top the food chain.
When prices rise the way they have been it is because the old money is becoming what it is worthless, just a place holder for gold. So it has nothing to do with valve, this is happening everywhere.
esfar3 の投稿を引用:
Plug and hole would be justifiable if I was a consumer from USA using a Argentina account. But Valve actually did a price hiking for people who lives in India , Turkey, Russia, Eastern Europe,south America which is not the right think todo.

... They could have punished those people who have ips from western countries like USA , Uk but buys from Argentina... But what they did was punishing people from rest of the world.

You live in Germany but you removed that information from your profile after it was pointed out.

Secondly you have created numerous threads about the same topic because region hopping is no longer an option.

And finally developers, publishers set the prices of their products.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

1) Partners on Steam are responsible for setting and managing pricing for their products.

2) Many games choose to ignore our recommendations and determine their own pricing in each currency, and that’s just fine. But we hope the recommendations are a useful data point for developers who don’t have the time or interest to research pricing in each currency themselves.
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