Sharki Oct 19, 2023 @ 7:49am
Fix Crazy Regional Price Suggestions by Steam.
From 80% to 500% price hike in various regions of the world has made purchasing game on steam impossible. India , Turkey , Asia , South America even countries outside these regions have faced severe price hike.. who do you surve Valve? It appears that you don't think about your customer base at all.
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Hobbit XIII Oct 19, 2023 @ 7:51am 
Isn't that down to the developers who set the prices?
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Oct 19, 2023 @ 7:57am 
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
Nx Machina Oct 19, 2023 @ 7:59am 
Yet another thread from you about region hopping no longer being an option because Valve plugged the hole.
Last edited by Nx Machina; Oct 19, 2023 @ 9:33am
Sharki Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
No .... Here is the hard facts...
1.whenever a publisher wants to set a price of a game in Steam , there is a suggestion price from Steam . Publisher can make a estimation using that suggested price . Publisher can ignore the regional price suggested by Valve , give exactly same price as suggestions or even give higher price than that price.

Valve has increased that suggested price from 80% to 500 % REGION WISE. That's why regional price having this kind of Crazy price hike.
so do valve make up these prices and just put them out there...
Zukabazuka Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:12am 
Third world countries have been having a good time up till now, but your currency is currently dropping hard, some are so worthless that if we would sell it at your price level we wouldn't even make 1 cent out of if.

So the problem is your currency isn't really able to generate good value.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by esfar3:
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
No .... Here is the hard facts...
1.whenever a publisher wants to set a price of a game in Steam , there is a suggestion price from Steam . Publisher can make a estimation using that suggested price . Publisher can ignore the regional price suggested by Valve , give exactly same price as suggestions or even give higher price than that price.

Valve has increased that suggested price from 80% to 500 % REGION WISE. That's why regional price having this kind of Crazy price hike.
You do realize Steam only made the changes to suggestion pricing a year ago, this isn't recent thing this year.
https://steamdb.info/blog/valve-price-matrix-2022-update/

And if you're from Argentina, or Turkey you already WELL know the problem for your currency having a hyperinflation problem, so there not much can be done. Steam make the suggestions for PRICE value to USD hence the link above. If dev want $1 USD they look at what suggested for that price range to be around $1 USD, hence the point of it.

Again most do not follow what Steam suggest, and always been up to game devs/publishers, if you want prices to be lowerd, take it up with the game dev/publisher that are setting the price hence my point from last post.
nullable Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by esfar3:
Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Here some hard FACTS.
1. Steam don't set the prices on 3rd party games. Game prices by 3rd party are set by game dev / publisher.

2. The only games Steam can set prices for is for Valve games. If don't know what Valve games are, here a list of all Valve games.
https://store.steampowered.com/publisher/valve

3. Steam can only make suggestions on regional pricing, but most DO NOT follow Steam suggestions on regional pricing, and some charge much more than what being suggested.
No .... Here is the hard facts...
1.whenever a publisher wants to set a price of a game in Steam , there is a suggestion price from Steam . Publisher can make a estimation using that suggested price . Publisher can ignore the regional price suggested by Valve , give exactly same price as suggestions or even give higher price than that price.

Valve has increased that suggested price from 80% to 500 % REGION WISE. That's why regional price having this kind of Crazy price hike.

And? Some regions need to have their prices increased, having absurdly low prices harms Valve, and developers and makes region hopping attractive. People don't like prices going up, and they're not keen to accept any explanation that upsets the status quo they were happy with. There's no point trying to appease them at the expense of all other concerns.

Valve is allowed to recommend whatever they want. And whether or not a publisher goes with their recommendation, or decides to set their own prices are both decisions made by the publisher. Hoping you can manipulate/trick publishers into under pricing games by exploiting Valve's recommendations is a fool's errand.

You don't like Valve's decisions. Valve didn't spin their Wheel-of-Cruelty to arrive at those values. Deal with it.
Last edited by nullable; Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:18am
Sharki Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Yet another thread from you about region hopping no longer being an option because Valve plugged the hole.
Plug and hole would be justifiable if I was a consumer from USA using a Argentina account. But Valve actually did a price hiking for people who lives in India , Turkey, Russia, Eastern Europe,south America which is not the right think todo.

... They could have punished those people who have ips from western countries like USA , Uk but buys from Argentina... But what they did was punishing people from rest of the world.
Sharki Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:20am 
Valves regional games sales will take a dive. Infact they have dived if they don't change their way.
Mad Scientist Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:24am 
You've made many of these threads across the game hubs for months. Simply put, the currency isn't valuable at all. Between that fact and when Valve clamped down on region hopping, Developers appear to be deciding they never want that to happen again, so they use the suggested price or quite often - charge more than the recommended price.

Any countries with very little currency value have to help themselves to fix that problem. Going from hub to hub as most of the history if a Dev sees that, will most likely just make them double down on keeping the price. Some will even increase the price as a reaction. Indies are typically the only ones that will consider different prices, but if they also see 1.7k games on an account complaining about prices, they're going to know theres no issue affording games.
nullable Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by esfar3:
Valves regional games sales will take a dive. Infact they have dived if they don't change their way.

Perhaps "making a sale" at all costs, even for pennies on the dollar isn't the only/ultimate goal for a business.

So you say that like it's a problem, but either you don't understand why it's not, or you really think Valve might do whatever it takes to increase or maintain the volume of sales in low value regions at the expense of all other concerns. That's some misguided wishful thinking methinks.

Originally posted by esfar3:
Originally posted by Nx Machina:
Yet another thread from you about region hopping no longer being an option because Valve plugged the hole.
Plug and hole would be justifiable if I was a consumer from USA using a Argentina account. But Valve actually did a price hiking for people who lives in India , Turkey, Russia, Eastern Europe,south America which is not the right think todo.

When you own a stake in Valve your opinion will matter. Until then, it doesn't.

Originally posted by esfar3:
... They could have punished those people who have ips from western countries like USA , Uk but buys from Argentina... But what they did was punishing people from rest of the world.

Price increases aren't punitive and the lost value of many of the currencies is much much bigger issue. If a currency loses a large amount of value, prices need to go up to offset the lost value. pretending otherwise isn't the sort of ignorance that gets results.
Last edited by nullable; Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:31am
Crazy Tiger Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by esfar3:
Valves regional games sales will take a dive. Infact they have dived if they don't change their way.
You might want to consider that Valve, and perhaps even the game devs and publishjers, care less about that than you.

Not every market is equally important. And regions that got used a lot by hoppers to get cheaper games might not be up top the food chain.
SLAYER187 Oct 19, 2023 @ 8:58am 
When prices rise the way they have been it is because the old money is becoming what it is worthless, just a place holder for gold. So it has nothing to do with valve, this is happening everywhere.
Nx Machina Oct 19, 2023 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by esfar3:
Plug and hole would be justifiable if I was a consumer from USA using a Argentina account. But Valve actually did a price hiking for people who lives in India , Turkey, Russia, Eastern Europe,south America which is not the right think todo.

... They could have punished those people who have ips from western countries like USA , Uk but buys from Argentina... But what they did was punishing people from rest of the world.

You live in Germany but you removed that information from your profile after it was pointed out.

Secondly you have created numerous threads about the same topic because region hopping is no longer an option.

And finally developers, publishers set the prices of their products.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing

1) Partners on Steam are responsible for setting and managing pricing for their products.

2) Many games choose to ignore our recommendations and determine their own pricing in each currency, and that’s just fine. But we hope the recommendations are a useful data point for developers who don’t have the time or interest to research pricing in each currency themselves.
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