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I've seen moderation abuse before, but nothing as petty and over the top than what I've seen in that hub with one of their moderators.
Note “I was banned for trolling” is not “abuse”
And yeah, they send me the CDPR's support link instead LOL. And when I click on it, it is actually for their tech support XD
Yeah, that wasnt what was happening.
The moderator was removed from power prior to Cyberpunk 2077 release because people went to support. Six months later he was reinstated.
I can assure you after seeing the actual reports and actions in that hub it was clear abuse and even other moderators agreed, but sure.
Well, I'd say just avoid that hub. Once that mod got his moderation rights back I left.
Hes been a very problem child for CDPR official forums and Witcher/Cyberpunk forum.
The few others are a lot better and a lot more understanding. The one that most likely banned you power trips hard. Vattier is the dev in charge of the moderators, Id attempt to reach out to him but good luck.
I'm actually curious about the situation before. How did he get removed as a mod (like people mass reported him?) but then why reinstate him and allowing him to go on a power trip again? (and why aren't people reporting him again if this worked the first time?) And you're saying he's also a mod on the official forums?
Like def sounds like someone who's drunk on power and taking all these moderator positions just to get a little control over something in his life...
So prior to Cyberpunk 2077 releasing there was obviously a lot of hype so tons of users flood the forum.
A lot of then deserved bans a lot didnt. That mod, was responding to people in reports - if you ever mod I suggest never posting in the hub or responding to people in the reports xD nothing good comes from it.
Anyway, there were a lot of grey areas, overzealous bans, and CLEAR abuse at times.
So, one of the new moderators started reaching out to users who were being banned by this other moderator and informing them they should create support tickets.
Well, Im assuming the devs got a message from Steam through steamworks or something because a discussion was had and the mod got removed from power only from Cyberpunk hub, not the official or Witcher hubs. Well, I dont know what conversation happened much later, but CDPR saw fit to give him back moderation power and then a bunch of nonsense bans happened again.
Without revealing names or situations I can just say that I am always very cautiois when a user makes claims you are making because 9 times out of 10 the user isnt giving the full story.... but knowing its that forum and seeing that mod still active, yeah I believe you without looking into further xD
Oh well, guess I just got unlucky then. I could show you a screenshot of the moderation message I received to prove that it was literally just over using the word "sucks" lol. So yeah, after hearing what you've said, I have no doubt that it is the same guy XD
But honestly, I see so many users that are banned just casually browsing threads there. the mod clearly hasn't learned the lesson from the last ordeal...
So it's best to always observe how any dev handles their forum space before jumping in. There is this thing referred to as "know your audience." Humor and manners of speaking are subjective things that will be taken by different people in different ways.
The jokes my friends and I tell and the language we use while sitting around the card table late at night in the man cave are not the same jokes and language used at our kids' birthday parties. It is also not the same things we say when out in public among other people we do not know. It's about being smart in your communication when other people are involved or around the general vicinity.
There are rules and etiquette for what you say and how you say it in many different places and settings. I don't use the same level of voice and language in my local library or at church as I do when at home, or back around that card table.
What many here fail to realize is that the gaming community is not the same as it was back in the 90's and 00's. People want gaming forums to reflect the gaming community that uses them. What they fail to understand is that they now do. What may have been permissible back during the reign of the Edgelord Neckbeard is no longer tolerated by the general Gaming Community. And this is now reflected in the forums we use on platforms that are designed to appeal to that greater Gaming Community as a whole, including the Steam Discussions.
You either accept that and learn to play within the rules, or you will find yourself rightly banned from those forums.
You can be banned even when not breaking the rules, even get banned by stating a fact.
Mods can get away with it by putting something simple as "trolling" "baiting" etc and there is NO consequence of abusing the tools to be used for moderating the forum etiquette/rules.
And yes words can have many meanings as well as subjective, still no reason for banning people just because a mod is paranoid or feeling hurt by others perspective even in the lines of forum rules..
With power comes responsibility.
Don't bother with an appeal. Nobody will lift it. Best you can do is boycott their ♥♥♥♥.
Just because the Thread stayed up for 8 hours, doesnt mean the Moderators are racist, infact, that means nothing at all beside that maybe the Developers should have put up more active Moderators.
Precisely. If the devs reinstated the mod, that tells you everything you need to know, and it's up to you to decide if they deserve any more of your money. Everyone has a right to make their own decisions - and some people may not see that moderation as a problem. That is the viewpoint they have the right to make, just as yours.
Let's remember one thing here - forum use is a privilege, not an inherent right. Developers and platform owners have every legal right to run their platform as they see fit. So one must accept the fact that some platforms are just not for them, and move on to one that is.
We've been through this already. They are not free to do as they see fit.
They are bound by consumer laws. Particularly around Early Access games where the forum are used to notify up and coming content. Content that is subcontracted Service Level Agreement.