About the removal of ARS$ and TRY, how will the prices change without the publisher's input

[deuce]

I want to illustrate my question with an example. Currently Final Fantasy XII is priced at 174 Turkish Liras which is around 6 US dollars. When the Turkish lira is removed from Steam at the 20th, will Final Fantasy XII default to $6.17 or $49.99 in the MENA USD region without any new change from the publisher? I am assuming the former but the wording on the announcement and the discussion surrounding it got me second guessing myself.

[Honyakusha]

if game is 49.99 USD, MENA recommendation price will be 22.99 USD
Still it depends on the developers so last word is theirs. They can put lower or higher, steam had no direct influence on selling prices even now, they only "recommend" regional prices.

[The Collector]

Hi, so the way I understand it is all prices will be converted to USD but adjusted depending
on your Region. Steam wallet funds will also be converted from your currency to USD
at the going exchange rate.

So assuming the new Regions haven´t altered the pricing, it should be $6.17. But we´ll have
to wait and see. I´m just going to empty my Wallet now though lol.

[deuce]

Originally posted by Honyakusha:

if game is 49.99 USD, MENA recommendation price will be 22.99 USD
Still it depends on the developers so last word is theirs. They can put lower or higher, steam had no direct influence on selling prices even now, they only "recommend" regional prices.

That's not what I'm talking about. The price has to default to something after TRY is removed. Will it default to the 50 USD or 23 USD or will it simply just change currency and stay at $6.17? (or whatever the exchange rate is at the time of lira's removal.) I doubt we will have to wait each publisher's approval of new pricing to buy games again.

[deuce]

Originally posted by The Collector:

Hi, so the way I understand it is all prices will be converted to USD but adjusted depending
on your Region. Steam wallet funds will also be converted from your currency to USD
at the going exchange rate.

So assuming the new Regions haven´t altered the pricing, it should be $6.17. But we´ll have
to wait and see. I´m just going to empty my Wallet now though lol.

Hopefully that's the case. I'd rather still be able to buy games that publishers don't bother or care to update prices for. Like FFXII.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by deuce:

I want to illustrate my question with an example. Currently Final Fantasy XII is priced at 174 Turkish Liras which is around 6 US dollars. When the Turkish lira is removed from Steam at the 20th, will Final Fantasy XII default to $6.17 or $49.99 in the MENA USD region without any new change from the publisher? I am assuming the former but the wording on the announcement and the discussion surrounding it got me second guessing myself.

Game prices won't change unless game developers and publishers manually submit and publish new prices. However, if developers do not enter prices for these new regions, those regions will show default USD pricing until they add prices in the LATAM-USD and MENA-USD fields.

https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-turkey-argentina-usd/

[deuce]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by deuce:

I want to illustrate my question with an example. Currently Final Fantasy XII is priced at 174 Turkish Liras which is around 6 US dollars. When the Turkish lira is removed from Steam at the 20th, will Final Fantasy XII default to $6.17 or $49.99 in the MENA USD region without any new change from the publisher? I am assuming the former but the wording on the announcement and the discussion surrounding it got me second guessing myself.

Game prices won't change unless game developers and publishers manually submit and publish new prices. However, if developers do not enter prices for these new regions, those regions will show default USD pricing until they add prices in the LATAM-USD and MENA-USD fields.

https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-turkey-argentina-usd/

:summercat2023:

Okay so is it gonna be $6.17 or $23 or $50? That article says the game prices won't change($6.17) but also states that those states will show default USD pricing.(which I assume is as seen in SteamDB; $50) I've read this post before asking this question and it didn't help.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

No price change by the dev/pub, you see the default USD price.

[deuce]

No price change means $6.17, default USD price is $50. Do you see why it doesn't make sense? the existing price has to change for me to see the default USD price.

Game price right now in Turkey: 172 Turkish liras ($6.17 for today's exchange rate)
Game price right now in USD: US$50

Which price am I going to see after Steam removes Turkish lira?

a) $50
b) $6.17

[Anonymous Helper]

Originally posted by deuce:

Which price am I going to see after Steam removes Turkish lira?

a) $50
b) $6.17

Either
a)what ever the developer sets it to in USD
or
b) default US USD price if the developer do not set it (50$ in your example)

Even if developer sets a price, it most likely will be higher than current price as new suggested price by Steam for your game example is 22.99$ (up from previous ₺425,00/$15.11). Note that as your currency continues to deprecate in value, what you have to pay in Turkish lira will continue to increase.

[rymes]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/4145017/view/3728476412305766957

"If you do not add a USD price to these columns for your game before November 20th, we will default to the standard USD pricing you already have in Steamworks."

[nullable]

Originally posted by deuce:

No price change means $6.17, default USD price is $50. Do you see why it doesn't make sense? the existing price has to change for me to see the default USD price.

No it doesn't.

Valve added new regions, USD-LATM and USD-MENA. Standard procedure when adding new regions, and Valve made it clear this applies to the new LATM/MENA regions is: If publishers don't populate prices for those new regions then prices default to U.S. prices. There's no automatic conversion using the ARS or TRY, or default values for the new regions based on other regions or previous regions or anything. Publishers have to explicitly set the prices for the new regions, otherwise you get the default U.S. pricing.

Originally posted by deuce:

Game price right now in Turkey: 172 Turkish liras ($6.17 for today's exchange rate)
Game price right now in USD: US$50

Which price am I going to see after Steam removes Turkish lira?

a) $50
b) $6.17

Based on your scenario

If the developer/publisher does nothing. $50
If they do exactly what you assume, and do a direct conversion, $6.17
If they follow Valve's recommended prices, then option C. Could be $25.
If they decide to set their own price, using none of the above, option D. $??

Option C or D will be/could be different than either A or B. There's more than two options at any rate, at least four options the way I figure it.

[deuce]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by deuce:

No price change means $6.17, default USD price is $50. Do you see why it doesn't make sense? the existing price has to change for me to see the default USD price.

No it doesn't.

Valve added new regions, USD-LATM and USD-MENA. Standard procedure when adding new regions, and Valve made it clear this applies to the new LATM/MENA regions is: If publishers don't populate prices for those new regions then prices default to U.S. prices. There's no automatic conversion using the ARS or TRY, or default values for the new regions based on other regions or previous regions or anything. Publishers have to explicitly set the prices for the new regions, otherwise you get the default U.S. pricing.

Originally posted by deuce:

Game price right now in Turkey: 172 Turkish liras ($6.17 for today's exchange rate)
Game price right now in USD: US$50

Which price am I going to see after Steam removes Turkish lira?

a) $50
b) $6.17

Based on your scenario

If the developer/publisher does nothing. $50
If they do exactly what you assume, and do a direct conversion, $6.17
If they follow Valve's recommended prices, then option C. Could be $25.
If they decide to set their own price, using none of the above, option D. $??

Option C or D will be/could be different than either A or B. There's more than two options at any rate, at least four options the way I figure it.

Alright thanks this is helpful.

What I meant with that first quote in your reply is that prices will be changing for me if it defaults to USD, to elaborate right now the game I used as an example is 174 TRY and if it defaults to USD it will cost me around 1400 TRY, that's a price change. And the SteamDB article says "Game prices won't change unless game developers and publishers manually submit and publish new prices." And if publishers don't manually submit and publish new prices I am assuming it will default to USD prices so there will be a price change anyway. I just don't understand this bit.

[Golden Boy]

Originally posted by deuce:

Originally posted by nullable:

No it doesn't.

Valve added new regions, USD-LATM and USD-MENA. Standard procedure when adding new regions, and Valve made it clear this applies to the new LATM/MENA regions is: If publishers don't populate prices for those new regions then prices default to U.S. prices. There's no automatic conversion using the ARS or TRY, or default values for the new regions based on other regions or previous regions or anything. Publishers have to explicitly set the prices for the new regions, otherwise you get the default U.S. pricing.



Based on your scenario

If the developer/publisher does nothing. $50
If they do exactly what you assume, and do a direct conversion, $6.17
If they follow Valve's recommended prices, then option C. Could be $25.
If they decide to set their own price, using none of the above, option D. $??

Option C or D will be/could be different than either A or B. There's more than two options at any rate, at least four options the way I figure it.

Alright thanks this is helpful.

What I meant with that first quote in your reply is that prices will be changing for me if it defaults to USD, to elaborate right now the game I used as an example is 174 TRY and if it defaults to USD it will cost me around 1400 TRY, that's a price change. And the SteamDB article says "Game prices won't change unless game developers and publishers manually submit and publish new prices." And if publishers don't manually submit and publish new prices I am assuming it will default to USD prices so there will be a price change anyway. I just don't understand this bit.

It is indeed very confusing for many many many users, I hope you guys get more information

[rymes]

Originally posted by deuce:

Originally posted by nullable:

No it doesn't.

Valve added new regions, USD-LATM and USD-MENA. Standard procedure when adding new regions, and Valve made it clear this applies to the new LATM/MENA regions is: If publishers don't populate prices for those new regions then prices default to U.S. prices. There's no automatic conversion using the ARS or TRY, or default values for the new regions based on other regions or previous regions or anything. Publishers have to explicitly set the prices for the new regions, otherwise you get the default U.S. pricing.



Based on your scenario

If the developer/publisher does nothing. $50
If they do exactly what you assume, and do a direct conversion, $6.17
If they follow Valve's recommended prices, then option C. Could be $25.
If they decide to set their own price, using none of the above, option D. $??

Option C or D will be/could be different than either A or B. There's more than two options at any rate, at least four options the way I figure it.

Alright thanks this is helpful.

What I meant with that first quote in your reply is that prices will be changing for me if it defaults to USD, to elaborate right now the game I used as an example is 174 TRY and if it defaults to USD it will cost me around 1400 TRY, that's a price change. And the SteamDB article says "Game prices won't change unless game developers and publishers manually submit and publish new prices." And if publishers don't manually submit and publish new prices I am assuming it will default to USD prices so there will be a price change anyway. I just don't understand this bit.

I think you're getting confused with their wording, when they say "change" they mean manual price input by the dev's to change it from the default, with the default being $50 in this instance. Obviously to you change means anything other than $6.17.