Is SAM (Steam Achievement Manager) against any rules?

[Kayderim]

Like for example, if i want to unlock achievments in games that i already finished playing but can't be bothered to come back and 100%, and if i want to revert achievments on games that i really want to 100% again (Nioh, FF XII), is my account in any risk of getting banned?

All the games i have and want to use this on are single player only, but there are some games that offer multiplayer achievments, like Tomb Raider, i want to use SAM to complete these achievments and focus on single player achievments, is this allowed?

[blunus]

Origineel geplaatst door dazza0511:

Origineel geplaatst door blunus:

Using SAM doesn't affect other players, it's you ruining your experience in doing achievements normally.

You are wrong, it affects the global achievements percentages.

Sorry, but that doesn't affect players during gameplay.

[Silenzeio]

And besides, the global achievement metric is flawed in so many ways.

[Yujah]

Origineel geplaatst door blunus:

SAM uses Steam APIs to make calls to Steam that achievements were unlocked or locked. It's completely undetectable and the game devs have to manually issue game bans.

Well to be precise, "undetectable" in a sane sense by Steam. Many games also keep track of unlocked achievements themselves, internally or even simply visibly in-game, or even such as e.g. in the case of Rockstar by unlocking on both Steam and Rockstar Social Club at the same time. SAM only unlocks Steam-sides, meaning shenanigans are easily identified as a matter of both sets not matching up.

That said, that Dead by Daylight thing was also the only one I myself ever heard of someone in fact guving a shut, and someone above denied such still being the case, so in practice you're fine.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

Origineel geplaatst door dazza0511:

Origineel geplaatst door blunus:

Using SAM doesn't affect other players, it's you ruining your experience in doing achievements normally.

You are wrong, it affects the global achievements percentages.

...which are completely meaningless to begin with. Even if you are interested in earning achievements, there's tons of ways to get them non-legit, even without SAM.

[GunsForBucks]

It is against the rules but they have no way to enforce it.

It is a third party program that alters steam files.

If they do develop a way and decide to enforce it then you would have no excuse. It is in the rules.

[sumolagann]

sam is lame

[Yujah]

Some achievements also are. I've used SAM for example to reset an achievement that a game foisted upon me for just having started it once, throwing off my use of achievements to keep track of what among my heap of Steam-sale "gems" I have in fact looked at, played and/or well-played.

Admittedly I could also have used the Steam console to do that. But that's then at the same time a reason for Steam as well as anyone else to ask "who cares"...

[BJWyler]

Origineel geplaatst door dazza0511:

Origineel geplaatst door Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):

...which are completely meaningless to begin with. Even if you are interested in earning achievements, there's tons of ways to get them non-legit, even without SAM.

It's not meaningless because it helps understand how hard the achievement is and other reasons that I can't think of right now.

P.S. SAM users are cringe.

Nah, not really. I have a bunch of games with achievements as low as 0.01% that are very simple and easy to do. Some take less than a few minutes, so that percentage is completely meaningless in terms of difficulty or skill needed for achievements.

As a reminder there are a myriad of ways that achievements can be obtained other than just the use of SAM:
-Have a friend or family member help or complete the achievement for you.
-Edit the game files.
-Use someone else's game save file.
-Use a dev console or cheat codes.
-Take advantage of in game mechanics or features to bypass the "normal" route.
-Exploit bugs.
-Mods - either external or from the Steam Workshop
-Multi-boxing
-Win Trading
-Achievement servers
-Steam Console

Take note of that last one. Valve has built into Steam itself the some of the same ability SAM has in manipulating achievements, so it's pretty much a non-issue for them.

So yeah, SAM really isn't cringe at all, and not used by very many in the grand scheme of things. It is, however, a useful tool to fix broken achievements, or to reset achievements in order to get them again when the devs fail to provide for either option.

[Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥)]

Origineel geplaatst door dazza0511:

Origineel geplaatst door Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):

...which are completely meaningless to begin with. Even if you are interested in earning achievements, there's tons of ways to get them non-legit, even without SAM.

It's not meaningless because it helps understand how hard the achievement is and other reasons that I can't think of right now.

P.S. SAM users are cringe.

It really isnt, the reason why I already explained to you. SAM isnt the only way to get achievements, even "difficult" ones, the easy way. It's completely, 100% meaningless.

[ktulu84]

Making modifications on your account/profile is against the ToS

But valve doesnt care at all

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door BoraY:

Making modifications on your account/profile is against the ToS

But valve doesnt care at all

That's literally what you do when you change your pfp and such.

[blunus]

Origineel geplaatst door BoraY:

Making modifications on your account/profile is against the ToS

But valve doesnt care at all

Mods are against ToS? Wow, thanks.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Origineel geplaatst door blunus:

Origineel geplaatst door BoraY:

Making modifications on your account/profile is against the ToS

But valve doesnt care at all

Mods are against ToS? Wow, thanks.

They aren't.

[blunus]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door blunus:

Mods are against ToS? Wow, thanks.

They aren't.

It was sarcasm. They have yet to know what modding is.

[ktulu84]

Origineel geplaatst door SlowMango:

Origineel geplaatst door BoraY:

Making modifications on your account/profile is against the ToS

But valve doesnt care at all

That's literally what you do when you change your pfp and such.

>You may not use Cheats, automation software (bots), mods, hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software, to modify or automate any Subscription Marketplace process, the process of Steam account creation or otherwise in interacting with or controlling the processes or user interface of Steam, except to the degree expressly permitted.

Im pretty sure SAM counts as an unauthorized third party software

Thats what I meant