Win7: I don't seek for any reward

[Minuit]

Valve isn't the bad guy in the Win7 issue. This is unfair for Win7 users who cannot afford a new PC, but it isn't fair for Valve either. The Linux move from Valve was the right move. We should all agree that Microsoft is the real opponent of us all.

It IS hard to go from the fast food Windows to the real food Linux. But that's is what Valve asks us to do for fairly good reasons.

I was wrong to target Valve, even if that red reminder for Win7 users is unfair in many cases. Gamers have to migrate up to Linux. There is no "update" from win7/8.1 to any other Win X+. The update is from Windows to Linux.

Choose your distro, but never come back to Windows. Microsoft do is the bad guy.

[Viking2121]

Most people the claim they can't afford to move on to a newer system, is mostly full of crap or they think they need a 4090 class of system and thats it. I only deal with used computers and parts, its pretty crazy for what you can get used on Marketplace for under $100 bucks, Windows can be used for free without a key, Once Win 10 hits EOL, you can still install windows 11 on pretty much any machine with vary simple tricks, thousnads of videos online about it, and alot of them like the Rufas way is just a couple clicks and its ready to be installed on un supported hardware.

I can see people running old games thats not compatible with newer OS's and can't run steam, I get that, but not affording a newer used PC I always find comical, I wonder how they even eat each day.

[Start_Running]

引用自 Minuit：

Valve isn't the bad guy in the Win7 issue. This is unfair for Win7 users who cannot afford a new PC, but it isn't fair for Valve either. The Linux move from Valve was the right move. We should all agree that Microsoft is the real opponent of us all.

M'dude. Unless your system was a mid-tier from the early 00's you can run WIn10.
Secondly even if you do have to upfgrade the upgrade is cheap. about 120 to 160 bucks. Or the equivaslent of 2-3 AAA games.

[76561199521118219]

it is based on win10 in its default form reqruing in part features are not taken lightly such as spyware, as far as actual use if it is a real issue i not sure if it has to do with simple things like secure boot not working properli or setup correctly which lead to issues in the os, overall state of features dealing with security is murky as hell, as you get thousands of websites that provide conflicyting information thibfngs dealing with security of you desktop, routers etc, i think its same basicallt as medicine sites of all kinds expecially selfhelp sites providing false or incorrect information which confuses people of why pc is not wiorking properly as of course many clain companies are behind it, in my case i feel its mostlyt issue of sites that provide false info is case of a problem, a many people run sites like that purealu as money driven enterprise where it makes more money to give false, controversial information if it drives more views, ie it is easy to make a website on any issue even if has no credibility if it drives views.

[Azure Fang]

引用自 ghost：

it is based on win10 in its default form reqruing in part features are not taken lightly such as spyware... ~snip~

Those same features were added to Win 7 in the final wave of security updates. There was significant backlash over it. Difference between 7 and 10 is many of those telemetry features can be disabled in 10 but not in 7.

You're literally holding on to the spyware version of Windows now. Do your homework.

[Wolfstorm]

引用自 N3tRunn3r：

To call out the big ones: Steam, BattleNet, Epic, Ubisoft, Origin or what it is called today, all launchers.. even GOG uses CEF.

Nothing that piracy can't solve.
Only issue is with online games. These will certainly not work.
By promoting socio-technological exclusion, Steam harms the industry. Devs will see their revenues going down, as the socially excluded will flock to the pirate market.

Funny thing techies talk so much about pronouns and inclusion, and exclude those who made the choice of not running a spammer OS. Include in one side, exclude in the other. Hypocrites.

[Wolfstorm]

引用自 Azure Fang：

Difference between 7 and 10 is many of those telemetry features can be disabled in 10 but not in 7.

Until the next update. Then it is re-enabled AGAIN.
And there are updates every week.
And you can't disable the updates.

[Azure Fang]

引用自 Wolfstorm：

引用自 Azure Fang：

Difference between 7 and 10 is many of those telemetry features can be disabled in 10 but not in 7.

Until the next update. Then it is re-enabled AGAIN.
And there are updates every week.
And you can't disable the updates.

Quit drinking the kool-aid. The "re-enable" happened a total of ONE TIME and it was never confirmed that it was intentional. It hasn't happened since.

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

引用自 Wolfstorm：

And you can't disable the updates.

This is completely false. You can completely and permanently disable updates in windows 10 if you wanted to. It's not a good idea and not advised to do it. But it is possible to do.

[Minuit]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Wolfstorm：

And you can't disable the updates.

This is completely false. You can completely and permanently disable updates in windows 10 if you wanted to. It's not a good idea and not advised to do it. But it is possible to do.

Thanks for letting us know. I'll check that. But why does MS prevent users from doing it in a legit way?

[🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊]

引用自 Minuit：

Thanks for letting us know. I'll check that. But why does MS prevent users from doing it in a legit way?

Disclaimer: I am not saying anyone in this thread is this way and I am not saying you are this way. Please do not infer that from my comment below.

Disclaimer out of the way: Microsoft seems to think that the people using windows are too stupid to manage updates ourselves so they decided to try and force us to accept updates for all the people who don't know what updates are, why they happen, or that they are necessary. They removed the option in the OS to allow us to disable updates because they think they have to manage it for us.

The way to disable updates by the way is: Download two free apps, Shutup10, and Win Aero Tweaker (search for them in google). Go to Win Aero Tweaker, search in it for 'updates' and then disable updates there. Follow it up with running Shutup 10 and then also disable updates there too. You can use both programs to also disable telemetry and logging in windows 10 along with safely disabling cortana by the way. Then reboot the computer and viola, no more updates.

However I would say that it would be a good idea to switch updates back on and grab all the updates occasionally as running without windows updates at all is a bad idea and not something we should do. Personally I switch it on to get updates once a month then switch it off again. This way I still get updates but I choose when I want to get them and only when I want to get them. Not when microsoft decides we should get them. By doing this I can avoid the whole "updates running when I want to turn off my computer and go to bed" problem.

[Minuit]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

引用自 Minuit：

Thanks for letting us know. I'll check that. But why does MS prevent users from doing it in a legit way?

Disclaimer: I am not saying anyone in this thread is this way and I am not saying you are this way. Please do not infer that from my comment below.

Disclaimer out of the way: Microsoft seems to think that the people using windows are too stupid to manage updates ourselves so they decided to try and force us to accept updates for all the people who don't know what updates are, why they happen, or that they are necessary. They removed the option in the OS to allow us to disable updates because they think they have to manage it for us.

The way to disable updates by the way is: Download two free apps, Shutup10, and Win Aero Tweaker (search for them in google). Go to Win Aero Tweaker, search in it for 'updates' and then disable updates there. Follow it up with running Shutup 10 and then also disable updates there too. You can use both programs to also disable telemetry and logging in windows 10 along with safely disabling cortana by the way. Then reboot the computer and viola, no more updates.

However I would say that it would be a good idea to switch updates back on and grab all the updates occasionally as running without windows updates at all is a bad idea and not something we should do. Personally I switch it on to get updates once a month then switch it off again. This way I still get updates but I choose when I want to get them and only when I want to get them. Not when microsoft decides we should get them. By doing this I can avoid the whole "updates running when I want to turn off my computer and go to bed" problem.

That was the way I was updating win7; I used to choose when to update and what update was really useful.

Even if everyone can understand this not recommended by MS or for safety in general, the steps you provided may be very useful if, by any means, the Win10 "service" would happen to stop being supported one day...