Not having this specific type of game is depressing.

[Flaak]

When I was younger, I enjoyed online pvp comp games such as gears cod and halo. This was the pinnacle of actually enjoyable pvp. Nowadays theres NOTHING. Nothing but old garbage such as counter strike. And by garbage I dont mean to hate on it, I never really played it but I say garbage because all the popular games are old as dirt.

I would gladly pay a grand a year or more to just have a great pvp game I can go scrub stomping in. Its sad to say im a c1-gc in rocket league but skill based matchmaking has officially ruined the game. New cods are garbage, halo infinite was garbage, apex is old and was never really good. Fortnite was ruined by turbo building. (super enjoyable year 1-2).

Sbmm ruins any pvp game. Its design seems good but it doesnt execute well. Pvp games need to go back to do the days it was just random lobbies and every ones random. It was much funner. But the problem is they cater to the noobs that get stomped every time. How about take all the really bad players and make them player each other and everyone random. Easy fix.

Most people dont really enjoy arena shooters as it is. Idk man im too hold to not have a nice relaxing pvping game I can be good at. But there's nothing. In 2023, with millions of games there isnt a single good modern arena shooter.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

There are still plenty of games that offer community servers for pub stomping.

[Flaak]

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

There are still plenty of games that offer community servers for pub stomping.

Examples of games not older then 6 years?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

引用自 Flaak：

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

There are still plenty of games that offer community servers for pub stomping.

Examples of games not older then 6 years?

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/41339173-Self-Hosted-Games/

You can even check the "Tools" filter when you click on the Games button above your game list on the left and see a few that have dedicated servers.

[Flaak]

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

引用自 Flaak：

Examples of games not older then 6 years?

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/41339173-Self-Hosted-Games/

You can even check the "Tools" filter when you click on the Games button above your game list on the left and see a few that have dedicated servers.

I mean all these games are very small community and like you have to play dedicated servers and such.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

引用自 Flaak：

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/41339173-Self-Hosted-Games/

You can even check the "Tools" filter when you click on the Games button above your game list on the left and see a few that have dedicated servers.

I mean all these games are very small community and like you have to play dedicated servers and such.

Yes. That is the only way forward to play without SBMM.

[Knightspace]

引用自 Flaak：

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/41339173-Self-Hosted-Games/

You can even check the "Tools" filter when you click on the Games button above your game list on the left and see a few that have dedicated servers.

:summercat2023:

I mean all these games are very small community and like you have to play dedicated servers and such.

What's wrong with that? Less toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to ruin your fun

[Flaak]

引用自 Knightspace：

引用自 Flaak：

I mean all these games are very small community and like you have to play dedicated servers and such.

What's wrong with that? Less toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to ruin your fun

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

引用自 Flaak：

I mean all these games are very small community and like you have to play dedicated servers and such.

Yes. That is the only way forward to play without SBMM.

I hear ya, and I dont mind a small community but I usually like those for co-op online persistent games. If im logging into a pvp game everyday for years..I will eventually get bored of these decent indie games because they cant offer enough cosmetics or reasons to continue to smash noobs all day :D. Ya kno? A pvp games needs a community for the devs to keep making maps content cosmetics rewards etc. If im just logging in everyday to repeat winning and doing 5.0 k/d on same maps it gets boring.

Also feels alot better being good at a game 500k people play vs 500. You also have the difficulty of matchmaking being long.

[Hobbit XIII]

If you want to feel mortal I'd suggest Star Wars Battlefront 2 original and click multiplayer on title screen then [SWGO] server on the list.
Usually in the evening it comes alive (English time for me) and slowly I have progressed to sometimes not being the most killed player each game.
It's a fun game, I would recommend playing some of the solo game to get used to the controls and to practise on different weapons.

And editing : I just read the above post you will not like this game.

[Flaak]

引用自 Hobbit XIII：

If you want to feel mortal I'd suggest Star Wars Battlefront 2 original and click multiplayer on title screen then [SWGO] server on the list.
Usually in the evening it comes alive (English time for me) and slowly I have progressed to sometimes not being the most killed player each game.
It's a fun game, I would recommend playing some of the solo game to get used to the controls and to practise on different weapons.

And editing : I just read the above post you will not like this game.

Hehe thanks for trying. Eventually in the next 5 years something will come out. Its just, how old do I have to get to finally get a pvp game yaknow.

[miakisfan]

引用自 Flaak：

When I was younger, I enjoyed online pvp comp games such as gears cod and halo. This was the pinnacle of actually enjoyable pvp. Nowadays theres NOTHING. Nothing but old garbage such as counter strike. And by garbage I dont mean to hate on it, I never really played it but I say garbage because all the popular games are old as dirt.

I would gladly pay a grand a year or more to just have a great pvp game I can go scrub stomping in. Its sad to say im a c1-gc in rocket league but skill based matchmaking has officially ruined the game. New cods are garbage, halo infinite was garbage, apex is old and was never really good. Fortnite was ruined by turbo building. (super enjoyable year 1-2).

Sbmm ruins any pvp game. Its design seems good but it doesnt execute well. Pvp games need to go back to do the days it was just random lobbies and every ones random. It was much funner. But the problem is they cater to the noobs that get stomped every time. How about take all the really bad players and make them player each other and everyone random. Easy fix.

Most people dont really enjoy arena shooters as it is. Idk man im too hold to not have a nice relaxing pvping game I can be good at. But there's nothing. In 2023, with millions of games there isnt a single good modern arena shooter.

The only kind of game I care about anymore that is MP FPS is Unreal Tournament (preferably the original or UT3 that was released on PS3). The rest of them I can pass on. I prefer single player games. If you wonder why that feeling has been reinforced read the Steam forums and others where by the end of conversations you are grateful you don't have to play with a good percentage of them.

I personally find PVP games the farthest thing from relaxing as you can get but that is why we are all unique. I like this ... you like that. As long as we aren't interfering in what we both enjoy more power to us.

[غعلال Rauan]

helllo

[Nerv]

引用自 Flaak：

When I was younger, I enjoyed online pvp comp games such as gears cod and halo. This was the pinnacle of actually enjoyable pvp. Nowadays theres NOTHING. Nothing but old garbage such as counter strike. And by garbage I dont mean to hate on it, I never really played it but I say garbage because all the popular games are old as dirt.

I would gladly pay a grand a year or more to just have a great pvp game I can go scrub stomping in. Its sad to say im a c1-gc in rocket league but skill based matchmaking has officially ruined the game. New cods are garbage, halo infinite was garbage, apex is old and was never really good. Fortnite was ruined by turbo building. (super enjoyable year 1-2).

Sbmm ruins any pvp game. Its design seems good but it doesnt execute well. Pvp games need to go back to do the days it was just random lobbies and every ones random. It was much funner. But the problem is they cater to the noobs that get stomped every time. How about take all the really bad players and make them player each other and everyone random. Easy fix.

Most people dont really enjoy arena shooters as it is. Idk man im too hold to not have a nice relaxing pvping game I can be good at. But there's nothing. In 2023, with millions of games there isnt a single good modern arena shooter.

ah, so you want to go back to the days when you had no competition and were better than EVERYONE in the match no matter what, have easy games, and nobody was at least near your level of skill? okay, got it

[Flaak]

引用自 professor cocaine：

引用自 Flaak：

When I was younger, I enjoyed online pvp comp games such as gears cod and halo. This was the pinnacle of actually enjoyable pvp. Nowadays theres NOTHING. Nothing but old garbage such as counter strike. And by garbage I dont mean to hate on it, I never really played it but I say garbage because all the popular games are old as dirt.

I would gladly pay a grand a year or more to just have a great pvp game I can go scrub stomping in. Its sad to say im a c1-gc in rocket league but skill based matchmaking has officially ruined the game. New cods are garbage, halo infinite was garbage, apex is old and was never really good. Fortnite was ruined by turbo building. (super enjoyable year 1-2).

Sbmm ruins any pvp game. Its design seems good but it doesnt execute well. Pvp games need to go back to do the days it was just random lobbies and every ones random. It was much funner. But the problem is they cater to the noobs that get stomped every time. How about take all the really bad players and make them player each other and everyone random. Easy fix.

Most people dont really enjoy arena shooters as it is. Idk man im too hold to not have a nice relaxing pvping game I can be good at. But there's nothing. In 2023, with millions of games there isnt a single good modern arena shooter.

ah, so you want to go back to the days when you had no competition and were better than EVERYONE in the match no matter what, have easy games, and nobody was at least near your level of skill? okay, got it

Currently a gc in rocket league. I have a 23% 26% and 32% win rate on fortnite from year 1 and 2 when it was the hardest and plenty other games that are considered hard to play being very good at. Any competitive game I touch I usually reach the highest ranks. You have no idea.

I wanna go back to good days before SKILL BASED MATCHMAKING and random lobbies. Because comp gaming should base your skill level based on how well you perform against the average person. Not oh you win so play harder and harder. Its a bs broken system that doesnt work and has been ruining comp gaming.

You would know if you ever have been good that if you want the highest ranks you have to CARRY your teammates. This is how sbmm balances this out. When a player is "ranking up" is because usually they are positive k/d or playing well. So the game has to find bad teammates to weigh the team to normal. In return the other teammates are alll decent players for the rank. So you have a good squad full of decent players vs 1 god and rest bots. This is how sbmm puts together games when you are ranking up to balance it out. Because if your teammates were on a winstreak and not a lose streak..then the game wouldnt be balanced.

You probably have so little knowledge based on any of this. And you are the first to say im bad at online pvp. Except you are probably the bad one as you have no idea.

[Flaak]

Also, dont you think random lobbies would still have plenty of good players? I mean say you have 6 opponents. One or two usually end up being a "higher rank". So yeah theres nothing wrong with the noob going 5-15 while the best players go 15-5. And the normal ranks in the middle do normal. But sometimes the randomness of a noob going 15-5 makes this matchup style exciting. Or perhaps the good player will bomb. Its all RANDOM.

Its also much funner since anybody can play anybody so yeah sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and train while losing and get better. Other times you will be better. Its fun this way.

[Hobbit XIII]

Are you a 'professional' gamer?
Going into competitions for the prizes and sponsorships?