Breach of Contract

[Iron Knights]

When a Corporation changes the original contract and makes you sign "a new policy", that's BREACH OF CONTRACT. When said Corporation makes you sign a new contract under the Duress of Losing property if not signing - That's called Racketeering. A RICO liable CRIME.

[Boblin the Goblin]

It actually isn't.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

TIL, every time a ToS is updated it's suddenly a "breach of contract" Wait, it's not.

[Ogami]

Delusions are something wonderful, right?
You can claim whatever you want and be sure you are right, reality be damned.

İlk olarak Orange Heart tarafından gönderildi:

The dude has been spaming very odd topics over the last few hours you know? Like one prior was a spam call to get people to leave Steam and go to GOG...I don't think this bot knows what its doing

He has been doing this for months, got banned multiple times, last time for a pretty long time.
But apparently he did not learn anything from it. Which was expected.

[Malfunctioning Robot]

Fact is his complaint is the windows 7 change, which wasn't a change in ToS anyway, he agreed to the hardware and software requirements changings since the very beginning.

Which just makes his rambling even funnier

[Ogami]

İlk olarak Malfunctioning Robot tarafından gönderildi:

Fact is his complaint is the windows 7 change, which wasn't a change in ToS anyway, he agreed to the hardware and software requirements changings since the very beginning.

Which just makes his rambling even funnier

Yup, the "system requirements for the client can change over time" was in the TOS since day 1 of Steam.
But again, these are things that have been explained to him multiple times over the last few months.
It just gets ignored.

[wesnef]

İlk olarak Ogami tarafından gönderildi:

He has been doing this for months, got banned multiple times, last time for a pretty long time.
But apparently he did not learn anything from it. Which was expected.

Yep. Saw this thread and immediately though "oh, hey, Iron Knights is back! Prepare to /facepalm. . ."

[FFL2and3rocks]

Someone needs to take their law degree back to Walmart for a refund.

[Satoru]

Just like on House MD it’s never Lupus

Just like in real law, it’s never RICO

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

İlk olarak Iron Knights tarafından gönderildi:

When a Corporation changes the original contract and makes you sign "a new policy", that's BREACH OF CONTRACT. When said Corporation makes you sign a new contract under the Duress of Losing property if not signing - That's called Racketeering. A RICO liable CRIME.

Except it hasn't changed, ever. You are told that the requirements for the service, which is Steam and the content, which are the games, may change over time. This has been a part of the Steam Subscriber agreement ever since Steam was launched in 2003.

[Start_Running]

İlk olarak Iron Knights tarafından gönderildi:

When a Corporation changes the original contract and makes you sign "a new policy", that's BREACH OF CONTRACT.

NO
BREACH OF CONTRACT is when one party fails to uphold its obligations and responsibilities under the contract. Altering the contract and requiringyou to ratify the changes is just a contract alteration. You atv that time are free not to ratify the contract and therefore terminate the contract.

İlk olarak Iron Knights tarafından gönderildi:

When said Corporation makes you sign a new contract under the Duress of Losing property if not signing - That's called Racketeering. A RICO liable CRIME.

NO m8. The fact that if you do not agree to the contract means that they are no longer obligated to their end.

Might I suggest you take a ciourse in COntract Law at your local community college. You seem to have a lot of misconceptions that will likely cause you trouble in your understanding of legal dealings.

[-$ilver-]

In some cases there could still be an argument made and if done so reasonably well, win. Contracts are not 100% binding. Anyone can put anything in them. In fact a lot is put into a contract to scare the person signing to think that they do not have certain rights. The courts will be the final word and contracts have been found to be unfair and reversed. I do not think this one would win mind you, but do not put a blind statement of "contract says this, so it's "100% binding". It's not. Also vague statements in a contract can back fire in courts.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

İlk olarak -$ilver- tarafından gönderildi:

In some cases there could still be an argument made and if done so reasonably well, win. Contracts are not 100% binding. Anyone can put anything in them. In fact a lot is put into a contract to scare the person signing to think that they do not have certain rights. The courts will be the final word and contracts have been found to be unfair and reversed. I do not think this one would win mind you, but do not put a blind statement of "contract says this, so it's "100% binding". It's not. Also vague statements in a contract can back fire in courts.

The stipulation has been in the SSA for 20 years.

It's anything but vague. It literally tells you, that the system requirements may change over time. This isn't the first time this has happened either. It happened with XP and Vista and Windows 2000 and Windows Me.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

For reasons that include, without limitation, system security, stability, and multiplayer interoperability, Valve may need to automatically update, pre-load, create new versions of or otherwise enhance the Content and Services and accordingly, the system requirements to use the Content and Services may change over time.


https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#2

As for breaching a contract, you're literally breaching it by not keeping your system up to date as per the agreement.

[-$ilver-]

İlk olarak C²C^Guyver |NZB| tarafından gönderildi:

The stipulation has been in the SSA for 20 years.

It's anything but vague. It literally tells you, that the system requirements may change over time. This isn't the first time this has happened either. It happened with XP and Vista and Windows 2000 and Windows Me.

That is pretty vague. Describe how they will change in the future.

[Malfunctioning Robot]

İlk olarak -$ilver- tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak C²C^Guyver |NZB| tarafından gönderildi:

The stipulation has been in the SSA for 20 years.

It's anything but vague. It literally tells you, that the system requirements may change over time. This isn't the first time this has happened either. It happened with XP and Vista and Windows 2000 and Windows Me.

That is pretty vague. Describe how they will change in the future.

You'll need an updated OS, not at all vague, as has been pointed out this requirement has ALREADY changed in the past, and this fact has already been challenged in courts and found to be acceptable