steam feels bloated slow and sluggish.

[LoveAndPeace]

honestly it's the steam client itself..

[Cray]

It is, and everyone I talk to seems to be in agreement on that. Just clicking to open a chat window can take 5 seconds sometimes, and that's just one out of countless things it does extremely slowly.

So yeah, it's by far the slowest, dawdliest and buggy program I have on my system :P

It's slow largely because the user interface these days is basically a glorified web browser, (chromium browser with lots of html5 cruft and misc. inefficiencies).

I doubt it'll get any better until they rip it out and write it from scratch with a better framework.

[LoveAndPeace]

look i get that they want to roll the ball forward.. but this is a bit ridiculous.
same goes for win 11.... like i have to reject win11's ui and system needs..

i feel like i need to close it, because it's system hungry.
and tons of games want it active... : /

[Crazy Tiger]

Escrito originalmente por Cray:

So yeah, it's by far the slowest, dawdliest and buggy program I have on my system :P

You should install Epic, that one is the slowest thing to crawl a mighty good PC and can't even load a library properly.

Ubi somehow seems to be a tad quicker nowadays, not sure what they did to it but it's better.

[LoveAndPeace]

Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Escrito originalmente por Cray:

So yeah, it's by far the slowest, dawdliest and buggy program I have on my system :P

You should install Epic, that one is the slowest thing to crawl a mighty good PC and can't even load a library properly.

Ubi somehow seems to be a tad quicker nowadays, not sure what they did to it but it's better.

that thing is trash, it's why it dont use it.

[Cray]

Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

Escrito originalmente por Cray:

So yeah, it's by far the slowest, dawdliest and buggy program I have on my system :P

You should install Epic, that one is the slowest thing to crawl a mighty good PC and can't even load a library properly.

Ubi somehow seems to be a tad quicker nowadays, not sure what they did to it but it's better.

Nice to see steam has competition in _every_ area!

[Cray]

Escrito originalmente por LegionKIN:

look i get that they want to roll the ball forward.. but this is a bit ridiculous.
same goes for win 11.... like i have to reject win11's ui and system needs..

i feel like i need to close it, because it's system hungry.
and tons of games want it active... : /

steam basically needs you to restart it at least once a day now or it'll just eat its way to a crawl (not to mention bleed ram like it's steam's time of the month 24/7)

[lsdninja]

Escrito originalmente por Crazy Tiger:

You should install Epic, that one is the slowest thing to crawl a mighty good PC and can't even load a library properly.

The EGS launcher is supposedly an Electron instanced spawned from an Unreal Engine instance. That's why it's dog slow. Get past that though and it uses less RAM than Steam (and doesn't leak as much, if at all), only spawns 4 webhelpers and even respects desktop UI scaling better than Steam. Lots of stuff on Epic is DRM-free though, once you've installed them (url=https://heroicgameslauncher.com/]Heroic[/url] has a Windows version too, so you can avoid it even then) you don't even need the launcher running to play them, unless you want Achievements andf/or cloud saves.

[Zefar]

Escrito originalmente por Cray:

It is, and everyone I talk to seems to be in agreement on that. Just clicking to open a chat window can take 5 seconds sometimes, and that's just one out of countless things it does extremely slowly.

So yeah, it's by far the slowest, dawdliest and buggy program I have on my system :P

It's slow largely because the user interface these days is basically a glorified web browser, (chromium browser with lots of html5 cruft and misc. inefficiencies).

I doubt it'll get any better until they rip it out and write it from scratch with a better framework.

Not experiencing any of that.

Steam in the library section is pretty much instant for me.
Opening Steam friends window take about 0.5 seconds.

The rest is pretty responsive.

The latest rework was them redoing the entire backend.

[Start_Running]

Escrito originalmente por LegionKIN:

honestly it's the steam client itself..

Enable low bbandwidth and low performance mode

[Cray]

Escrito originalmente por Zefar:

Escrito originalmente por Cray:

It is, and everyone I talk to seems to be in agreement on that. Just clicking to open a chat window can take 5 seconds sometimes, and that's just one out of countless things it does extremely slowly.

So yeah, it's by far the slowest, dawdliest and buggy program I have on my system :P

It's slow largely because the user interface these days is basically a glorified web browser, (chromium browser with lots of html5 cruft and misc. inefficiencies).

I doubt it'll get any better until they rip it out and write it from scratch with a better framework.

Not experiencing any of that.

Steam in the library section is pretty much instant for me.
Opening Steam friends window take about 0.5 seconds.

The rest is pretty responsive.

The latest rework was them redoing the entire backend.

Different people, different reports. I've seen so many complaints on the forums and heard countless friends ingame (really, I lost count after a handful) voice their dissatisfaction.

I'm sure it works well for some, perhaps their rigs are much heftier, perhaps they just happen to have the exact OS/software/lib/update versions the steamdevs are using so it works for that particular setup.

Idk., but it's a snail on windows and it's a snail in linux. Plenty buggy in both cases too.

[Lo Burattino]

Yes it's the client, and honestly Valve could've avoided this, since this problem plagues the mobile app since when it was updated.

[Haruspex]

Escrito originalmente por Zefar:

Not experiencing any of that.

Steam in the library section is pretty much instant for me.
Opening Steam friends window take about 0.5 seconds.

The rest is pretty responsive.

The latest rework was them redoing the entire backend.

Same here, even on a low-end laptop with a Ryzen 5 3500u. The experience is about the same on the other PCs in my house. A Ryzen 5700x with 32 GB of RAM, a Ryzen 3300x with 16 GB of RAM, and a Ryzen 3700x with 32 GB of RAM. It's even workable on my son's old laptop with a 2 core Celeron and 4 GB of RAM running Windows 10.

I will say it uses more RAM than it used to, but I don't really consider that a problem. Who has less than 8 GB of RAM these days, and even if you do, RAM is cheap. You can double it for less than the cost of a single game. As I write this on my laptop Steam is using 480 MB, or about the same as an instance of Firefox with one tab open.

[Zefar]

Escrito originalmente por Cray:

Different people, different reports. I've seen so many complaints on the forums and heard countless friends ingame (really, I lost count after a handful) voice their dissatisfaction.

I'm sure it works well for some, perhaps their rigs are much heftier, perhaps they just happen to have the exact OS/software/lib/update versions the steamdevs are using so it works for that particular setup.

Idk., but it's a snail on windows and it's a snail in linux. Plenty buggy in both cases too.

Going by the post of these forums it's a tiny minority. Steam has 28 to 29 million active users at peak.

I'm running on Win11 and have no problems.

[Mizorey]

Alt f4 it usually works for me ;D

[Thermal Lance]

I don't have issues with the client. Works like a charm here.

Well, more like it works exactly the same as before the update for me.