NFT's are dead and Valve was on the right side of history

[xHans]

While greedy gaming companies like Ubisoft and Square Enix were constantly looking for new ways to SCAM money off of their addicted consumers, Valve took the stance that it would not support blockchain type games.

This is a huge W for Valve, just doing honorable business offering real services for gamers instead of a gateway to abuse them through gambling and scummy marketing tactics.

There's alot of things that steam needs to improve like better consistent moderation of what games are allowed and what not with no gray areas or... the huge fee developers gets when people buy their games. Now is a good time to lower it to get better rep after the Unity fiasco.

https://www.eurogamer.net/gabe-newell-explains-why-steam-banned-nfts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JYlopnc3I8&ab_channel=YongYea

https://www.ign.com/articles/square-enix-nft-blockchain-web3-elixir

[Squirrel With Acorn]

Orange Heart původně napsal:

BlueCanine původně napsal:

Where is the Epic's Metaverse scam exactly, their metaverse is contained with Fortnite. Everything bought in Fornite is not with in a gambling lootbox (like Valve's are), doesn't encourage gambling to earn real money (like valve's are). Its used for marketing efforts too (like all those marvel movie skins), also the addition of tools to make islands for Fortnite where people can get paid money for their work depending on engagement. So where is the scam exactly?

Oh you sweet innocent child.

Thats not their metaverse, their metaverse is a still extremely early prototype VR system based around NFT avatars, its been like that for years. Fortnites never been apart of their largest scam known to date that literally when announced resulted in the dude who did it getting fired from Epic lol

Epic's version of the metaverse isn't about NFTs at all, which is why Tim Sweeney stated multiple times they are not interested in supporting NFTs in their own games. The crypto bros are the ones that bastardized the term metaverse to be about NFTs. That isn't the vision of Epic's metaverse at all. Their vision of the metaverse can be seen with Fortnite.

So I ask again, where is the scam about Epic's Metaverse.

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

BlueCanine původně napsal:

Orange Heart původně napsal:

Oh you sweet innocent child.

Thats not their metaverse, their metaverse is a still extremely early prototype VR system based around NFT avatars, its been like that for years. Fortnites never been apart of their largest scam known to date that literally when announced resulted in the dude who did it getting fired from Epic lol

Epic's version of the metaverse isn't about NFTs at all, which is why Tim Sweeney stated multiple times they are not interested in supporting NFTs in their own games. The crypto bros are the ones that bastardized the term metaverse to be about NFTs. That isn't the vision of Epic's metaverse at all. Their vision of the metaverse can be seen with Fortnite.

So I ask again, where is the scam about Epic's Metaverse.

Lets start with the one I first mentioned, Epic and Dove Soup Metaverse Beauty!
https://www.dove.com/us/en/stories/about-dove/real-virtual-beauty.html

Then there is how Epic had to clarify that Epics version of the Metaverse is not Fortnite, Fortnite is just part of the larger scam as a whole: https://www.roadtovr.com/epic-games-unreal-engine-1b-investment/

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/15/22729050/epic-game-store-open-to-blockchain-cryptocurrency-nft-games
Or how they went crawling back after valve blocked them?



Ya Epic is in this for the case, not the popularity

[T9]

fanboys are completly lost again

[❤ Sly Succubus ❤]

BlueCanine původně napsal:

Orange Heart původně napsal:

Lets start with the one I first mentioned, Epic and Dove Soup Metaverse Beauty!
https://www.dove.com/us/en/stories/about-dove/real-virtual-beauty.html

That isn't a scam, that is Dove doing marketing to profit from a specific segment of people, while providing free assets of female characters that developers can use to include in their own games.

Then there is how Epic had to clarify that Epics version of the Metaverse is not Fortnite, Fortnite is just part of the larger scam as a whole: https://www.roadtovr.com/epic-games-unreal-engine-1b-investment/

I said their vision of the metaverse is contained with in Fortnite, which is true. as your article states the metaverse is

real-time 3D social experiences leading to a convergence of gaming, film, and music

which is exactly what you see in Fortnite. The film part is also contained with in Fall Guys/Rocket League too by the way of skins from movies.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/15/22729050/epic-game-store-open-to-blockchain-cryptocurrency-nft-games
Or how they went crawling back after valve blocked them?

No, they didn't go crawl back at all. he talked about not having NFTs for their own games, which is still true. As for not blocking NFTs of other games from being on their store, the reason for that is this

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/crypto/epic-games-wont-ban-the-use-of-nfts-in-games-says-ceo-tim-sweeney-8047437/

Developers should be free to decide how to build their games, and you are free to decide whether to play them. I believe stores and operating system makers shouldn’t interfere by forcing their views onto others. We definitely won’t

All this means is you can see Epic's vision of the Metaverse through Fortnite, which does not included NFTs.

So where is the scam about Epic's Metaverse, their actual view of the metaverse and not the view you think exists while there is zero proof to back you up.

Oh I remember you, your the Epic Fanboy from the dicussion area! I remember why your on my blocked list! (I forgot about you entirely, one of the biggest Epic Fanboys that literally exist on the entire Steam Forums!)

[Max]

Still there are people defend valve that hard? All companies exit for profit lol

[Brian9824]

@xMaxrayx původně napsal:

Still there are people defend valve that hard? All companies exit for profit lol

You can make a profit while still having values and standards though

[Ellie ⁠≧⁠▽⁠≦]

The square enix nft game is still releasing right? I want them to lose even more money

[Maelstrom]

The dream:

NFTs will allow players to own their virtual items and exchange them freely across outside markets. They're like microtransactions but better. They could potentially even be cross-platform in some kind of metaverse thing.

The reality:

1) NFT games are trash because they're markets first and games second
2) There's no incentive for major game studios to adopt them because NFTs create a secondhand market for microtransaction stuff when used this way.
3) NFTs throw away the good parts of crypto (unregulatable open-source magic internet money) and keep all the bad parts (endless scams, lack of recourse, etc)

I looked into NFTs and honestly games was the one use-case I thought might gain some traction but nothing ever panned out. I never actually bought or otherwise owned any NFTs though.

[Anxiety]

Maelstrom původně napsal:

The dream:

NFTs will allow players to own their virtual items and exchange them freely across outside markets. They're like microtransactions but better. They could potentially even be cross-platform in some kind of metaverse thing.

The reality:

1) NFT games are trash because they're markets first and games second
2) There's no incentive for major game studios to adopt them because NFTs create a secondhand market for microtransaction stuff when used this way.
3) NFTs throw away the good parts of crypto (unregulatable open-source magic internet money) and keep all the bad parts (endless scams, lack of recourse, etc)

I looked into NFTs and honestly games was the one use-case I thought might gain some traction but nothing ever panned out. I never actually bought or otherwise owned any NFTs though.

Frankly, the dream part was already stupid to begin with.

[Max]

brian9824 původně napsal:

@xMaxrayx původně napsal:

Still there are people defend valve that hard? All companies exit for profit lol

You can make a profit while still having values and standards though

True but you can't say a company is good when they have easy source of money and they don't have any challenging problem , beside I read valve did an update that remove "add bot" option when they wanna sell their cs single player game

https://youtu.be/mMNnQ1mvCXY?si=KKnSc7z0XjshzG6N

You can't define a good friends when you have money but when you are poor you can know witch fake/good friends.

[Brian9824]

@xMaxrayx původně napsal:

brian9824 původně napsal:

You can make a profit while still having values and standards though

True but you can't say a company is good when they have easy source of money and they don't have any challenging problem , beside I read valve did an update that remove "add bot" option when they wanna sell their cs single player game

https://youtu.be/mMNnQ1mvCXY?si=KKnSc7z0XjshzG6N

You can't define a good friends when you have money but when you are poor you can know witch fake/good friends.

Eh don't need Valve to be my friend, just my store and launcher.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

@xMaxrayx původně napsal:

brian9824 původně napsal:

You can make a profit while still having values and standards though

True but you can't say a company is good when they have easy source of money and they don't have any challenging problem , beside I read valve did an update that remove "add bot" option when they wanna sell their cs single player game

https://youtu.be/mMNnQ1mvCXY?si=KKnSc7z0XjshzG6N

You can't define a good friends when you have money but when you are poor you can know witch fake/good friends.

Rule of thumb, no companies are your friend period.

Consumers and businesses can never be friends, as there always differences, there can be some trust, and likes, but friend is not one of them, because things are not always golden that how it been, and that how it remains.

[VoxxysTale]

Steam isn’t perfect—like, the lack of consistent moderation on some games is frustrating. And let’s be real, those developer fees are steep. After the whole Unity fiasco, it’d be a smart move for Valve to lower those fees and win even more goodwill.

Funny enough, I actually looked into blockchain gaming when it was first hyped. I didn’t fully get the tech, so I ended up chatting with someone through a service I found here: https://blockchainlawyer.com/services/. They broke everything down for me, and honestly, it made me realize how predatory some of these setups were. I can’t imagine being a gamer who unknowingly falls into that trap. Props to Valve for not feeding into that mess.

[nullable]

Well it's been over two years since the topic was created, Valve seems to be doing just fine with their consistent business model.

Plus they've had a graduated free system for ages. Everyone brings up the 30% fee, but after certain points in volume of sales the fee goes down to 25% and then 20%. Valve doesn't need to reduce it lower than that.

Riddle me this. Valve panders to your idea of goodwill, what does Valve get for that? Ok now take all the things you've imagined or made up, and give us hard quantified values. And please show your work.