What will Steam do now that Unity has become more greedy?

[Lil Silly Vert]

Will they start a lawsuit against Unity for a breach of contract like Nintendo and Square Enix?

I'm not sure how this will gonna work... I've seen this and there is some drama going on with Unity and other gaming developers.

[potato]

they won't do anything as it has nothing to do with it

[nullable]

Originally posted by Vert:

Will they start a lawsuit against Unity for a breach of contract like Nintendo and Square Enix?

Does Valve use Unity? If not, then why would they sue over a game engine they don't use?

Ultimately, everyone else will have to decide for themselves and maybe decide not to use Unity on future projects.

[Brian9824]

Nothing at all to do with Valve, that would be up to individual developers who develop their games using unity

[Mad Scientist]

Looks like someone already made a thread about it not long ago;
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/12/3866958929507421593/

[Komarimaru]

While the Unity fiasco makes it more expensive than the profits share method based on sale of using Unreal Engine now, it's sadly not a Steam Issue.

[Start_Running]

Originally posted by Vert:

Will they start a lawsuit against Unity for a breach of contract like Nintendo and Square Enix?

What contract was breeched. Unity is free to set their fees and pricing as they see fit. And its up to dev/pubs to decide if those fees are reasonable.

This isn't something for Vlave as a store front to get involved in. That's between the dev/pubs and Unity. And i suspect this greedplay will just essentially make sure no one actually uses their engine anymore.

It basically introduces a nasty cost element that the dev/pub literally has no control over, and that isn't actyuially tied to any revenue income.

Most Valve might due is put out some handy guides and tools to allow devs to easily port/import their styuff from unity to Soure2.

[aiusepsi]

Originally posted by nullable:

Does Valve use Unity? If not, then why would they sue over a game engine they don't use?

I think some of The Lab is based on Unity, if I recall correctly. Something to do with building games based on what other devs are using so they understood where the pain points were.

[miakisfan]

With everything else getting more expensive did anyone really expect it wouldn't eventually hit the gaming market too?

BTW if it were you doing it would you still consider it greedy? Put yourself in their shoes.

I'm not going to feel bad for the gamers today. You voted your way into this issue now you are going to have to vote your way out of it. If you have time to be here complaining you have time to go do the math on how much worse things have gotten over the last 2+years.

Maybe you will find out you might be actually part of the problem yourself anyways.

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Originally posted by miakisfan:

With everything else getting more expensive did anyone really expect it wouldn't eventually hit the gaming market too?

BTW if it were you doing it would you still consider it greedy? Put yourself in their shoes.

I'm not going to feel bad for the gamers today. You voted your way into this issue now you are going to have to vote your way out of it. If you have time to be here complaining you have time to go do the math on how much worse things have gotten over the last 2+years.

Maybe you will find out you might be actually part of the problem yourself anyways.

What does voting have to do with this lol.

Stop covering the asses of greedy corpos, corpos have been greedy no matter who runs the show.

[Haruspex]

Reading the new terms, it seems Unity is going to put pressure on the distributor to pay per install, rather than the developer. I think it's feasible that Valve won't even bother with messing around with that and could remove Unity games from Steam and ban future Unity titles from releasing on Steam.

Of course my own hope is that Unity backpedals on the whole thing. We'll see.

If anything, this might mean more developers switching to Godot, which would only be a good thing.

[Brian9824]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

Reading the new terms, it seems Unity is going to put pressure on the distributor to pay per install, rather than the developer. I think it's feasible that Valve won't even bother with messing around with that and could remove Unity games from Steam and ban future Unity titles from releasing on Steam.

Of course my own hope is that Unity backpedals on the whole thing. We'll see.

If anything, this might mean more developers switching to Godot, which would only be a good thing.

AFAIK they are going to try to get the developer to pay only for free games like on gamepass or other F2P games. Still ambiguous how it would be done.

[Satoru]

You can now in fact 'reverse review bomb' a company and bankrupt them

Rather than give them negative reviews as people suggest. Hire a shady company that will install a mobile game and give it 5 stars on the app store, which absolutely already exists. Each review of the game will be an 'install'. Keep paying them to do it

If you're, you know, maybe PUBG, Genshin Impct, etc and see some weird upstart F2P game cutting in on your turf. Hmmmm maybe some 'positive reviews' are in order before they get too big, make them burn through their financial runway via 'positive reviews' and kill the game. Mobile games are especially vulnerable to this as they need MASSIVE amounts of installs to cover their F2P model and frequently are running on fumes for awhile until they get their monetization plan really rolling as self-sustaining. Thus destroying them on fees at the vulnerable on-boarding stage is actually entirely viable.

[AustrAlien2010]

Games have been removed from the store before. They have no issues doing that.
But if you already added them to your account, you can keep them.

[Satoru]

Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:

Games have been removed from the store before. They have no issues doing that.

Note that they've only really done it once before where a game was outright removed from everyone's library. A mass exodus of games would likely not be in the cards.

[AustrAlien2010]

Oh, that's new. I never heard of that before. I still have all the titles that were removed in the past, and they can also be redownloaded.