Kingdom Hearts on Steam breakdown

[Robofish]

Alright so a lot of you Kingdom Hearts fans have been asking this question "When is Kingdom Hearts coming to Steam?" and you will get all sorts of answers like "It will never come to steam" or "lol gay ass buy it on egs" so I thought I'd put my two cents into this discussion.

First off, no it's not permanently exclusive to the Epic Games Store, otherwise they would have said so. Most epic games exclusivity only lasts around a year.

I have been scouring through the internet and couldn't find much of anything related until I found a reddit post that talks about how the latest update of the Kingdom Hearts games seems to have traces of code relating to the Steam Deck (Reddit post: I noticed Steam Input Strings in KH3 i didnt notice it before was that recently added?). From what I have read from the comments this has been confirmed by the SteamDB team.

This to me makes me believe that Square Enix is working on a Steam release but are wanting to make it Steam Deck compatible first before making an announcement. As for why they're taking so long when other games such as Final Fantasy 7 and Twewy didn't take as long... well, it's a collection of games.

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 includes Kingdom Hearts, Chain of Memories and cutscenes of 358/2 days. Kingdom Hearts 2.5 includes Kingdom Hearts 2, Birth by Sleep and cutscenes from re:coded
Kingdom Hearts 2.8 includes Dream Drop Distance and Birth by Sleep 0.2
Then you have Kingdom Hearts 3

That's like 7 games to get working on the Steam Deck as opposed to one so it's obviously going to take a lot longer to make each game compatible with the Steam Deck.

[Mutated Plush]

Personally, my bet is that they'll come to Steam when KH4 is closer to release. Makes business sense to release them a few months before the next game releases to keep the game in the public conciousness.

[WolfEisberg]

Mutated Plush님이 먼저 게시:

Personally, my bet is that they'll come to Steam when KH4 is closer to release. Makes business sense to release them a few months before the next game releases to keep the game in the public conciousness.

My bet is Epic has exclusivity on the KH4 game too, and the KH1-3 games exclusivity period is tied to KH4's exclusivity period.

[Aya]

WolfEisberg님이 먼저 게시:

Mutated Plush님이 먼저 게시:

Personally, my bet is that they'll come to Steam when KH4 is closer to release. Makes business sense to release them a few months before the next game releases to keep the game in the public conciousness.

My bet is Epic has exclusivity on the KH4 game too, and the KH1-3 games exclusivity period is tied to KH4's exclusivity period.

If that's the case, I think "forever" will likely be the exclusivity period of the Kingdom Hearts franchise.

I'm also half-expecting FFXVI to also be an EGS exclusive, considering that Yoshi-P's response to people wanting that game to be on PC was "get a PS5 lol". Considering the drastic shift from using that language to Square-Enix actually developing a PC port has me thinking that I know who we are to thank for that to happen.

I will acknowledge that there is a possibility that FFXVI will probably release on Steam after spending some time on the Epic Games Store but seeing that the PC gaming scene in Japan has been a source of annoyance for me in the past decade, I'm not willing to wait for a Steam release that may never happen when other Japanese game developers share Yoshi-P's sentiment.

[Raging Panda]

Aya님이 먼저 게시:

WolfEisberg님이 먼저 게시:

My bet is Epic has exclusivity on the KH4 game too, and the KH1-3 games exclusivity period is tied to KH4's exclusivity period.

If that's the case, I think "forever" will likely be the exclusivity period of the Kingdom Hearts franchise.

I'm also half-expecting FFXVI to also be an EGS exclusive, considering that Yoshi-P's response to people wanting that game to be on PC was "get a PS5 lol". Considering the drastic shift from using that language to Square-Enix actually developing a PC port has me thinking that I know who we are to thank for that to happen.

I will acknowledge that there is a possibility that FFXVI will probably release on Steam after spending some time on the Epic Games Store but seeing that the PC gaming scene in Japan has been a source of annoyance for me in the past decade, I'm not willing to wait for a Steam release that may never happen when other Japanese game developers share Yoshi-P's sentiment.

THis waiting for KH4 thing makes no sense. KH4 won't be for years probably, and if 3 didn't finish the story without starting a new one, why would 4 wrap everything up? So 4 will just be another similar case. So why not wait for 5, or 6? It's not like it's gonna be over with 4

[Laharl_Chan]

WhiteKnight님이 먼저 게시:

Didn't Epic Games put some work on bringing those titles to PC?. Like porting?. If so it can remain there has much it wants to. Atleast they are doing something?. What is Valve doing?. Nothing. All they can do is collect 30% tax and make hardware junks.

steam does a TON, aside from hardware (the deck isnt junk, its actually pretty good) they also did a LOT for VR as well. they also make proton, the interpeter for linux they use on the deck to make windows games play well on linux (much better then plain old WINE), they also make proton freely available to anyone who wants to install it elsewere or tinker with it (https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton). they also make the very user friendly steam app.

all epic does is scout exclusivity contracts and give away games. exclusivity contracts on PC hurt the industry as a whole. their app is resource intensive and dosent have all the features i want. the only reason players even use epic is cause of the free games. if epic didnt give away so many free games they would have fallen to obscurity already, like microsofts games for windows.

[Aya]

If Kingdom Hearts' EGS exclusivity was really just as simple as every other one, you'd all be playing the games on Steam by now because the timed exclusivity period would've expired twice over

It hasn't, and you're still speculating about the circumstances of its exclusivity instead of playing the game. I'm pretty sure that the port only happened with Epic's money. And quite frankly, I think we need more EGS exclusivity deals similar to KH where PC ports of certain games can even exist at all

[Bitwolf]

Aya님이 먼저 게시:

If Kingdom Hearts' EGS exclusivity was really just as simple as every other one, you'd all be playing the games on Steam by now because the timed exclusivity period would've expired twice over

It hasn't, and you're still speculating about the circumstances of its exclusivity instead of playing the game. I'm pretty sure that the port only happened with Epic's money. And quite frankly, I think we need more EGS exclusivity deals similar to KH where PC ports of certain games can even exist at all

Took Tony Hawk to expire thrice over, so there's one last chance.

[Raging Panda]

Aya님이 먼저 게시:

If Kingdom Hearts' EGS exclusivity was really just as simple as every other one, you'd all be playing the games on Steam by now because the timed exclusivity period would've expired twice over

It hasn't, and you're still speculating about the circumstances of its exclusivity instead of playing the game. I'm pretty sure that the port only happened with Epic's money. And quite frankly, I think we need more EGS exclusivity deals similar to KH where PC ports of certain games can even exist at all

Square is, frankly, an out of touch company that does what square wants. It's just like Nintendo. Sad part is, people still buy it. I'm sure KH will eventually come to steam. It may not even be soon. I think it's dumb all the speculation of waiting until KH 4, since KH 4 basically doesn't exist in any tangible capacity, but it may very well take until the NEXT complete package, including KH4 to get a steam release, but they will. They still release games on steam, and Epic's exclusivity has been failing them, with the company falling apart. It'll never fail completely, but Epic is about as much of a joke of a competitor to steam at this point as Origin, Uplay (sorry, ubisoft connect, like there's any real difference) Battlenet, and every other attempt at a launcher in existence. What's funny is epic had the capital to do it right, but they took the low route, and, like all, it failed them. They could've spent all that money to bank roll the development of a good launcher. Learn what steam did right, and fix what steam falls short on. They could've repeated steam's success, and built a launcher that has the same games Steam has, not intruding on them coming to steam, but provides features and an experience that makes users want to leave steam to use EGS.
Instead they took a page from apple, google, and every other walled garden. These companies continue in spite of their approach, not because of it. Epic didn't figure that out, but valve knows it. I think Steam's success comes from Valve being headed by someone who pushes hard for this kind of business. The kind of person who recognizes piracy isn't something you can stop. You can only make it more reasonable to purchase by making it easy to do and worthwhile. So, Epic will coast by in the background until, like EA, like Ubi, like Battlenet, and more, they are tired of leaving money on the table, or I guess, in this case, dumping money into a pit. The trend for the past 5-7 years has been TOWARDS PC gaming and towards games being available where people play, not forcing people to come to the games, and that trend promises that one day, KH will get a steam release. Here's hoping it's soon. Hell, I'd even bet one day, when Nintendo gets the old guard stick out of it's ass and maybe gets a president who's not, well, Nintendo, we'll see Nintendo games on PC. Of course, a LOT would need change, as Nintendo releasing it's games outside of their own platforms will, in the long run, kill them as a hardware developer. The Nintendo doing this would have pivoted heavily away from punishing users for going outside of their norm, and this would be like Apple suddenly letting third parties make their own phones with iOS, but, in the grand scheme of things, it looks like things are moving in the right direction.
I just find it funny people here act like EGS is anything but a piss poor attempt at a monopoly.

[R3N]

I been looking forward to buy kingdom hearts on PC for 3 years now.
I don't care if it in Epic or Steam, but Square Enix ridiculous pricing has push me back.


https://i.imgur.com/fQtecjr.png
This is the current pricing on Epic games and there is Black Friday Sale active right now with a -33% off Discount.
But no Square Enix didn't even bother to put it on sale.
They are selling the game at the Full price. The game has not even go down in pricing after 3 years.

Meanwhile the All-In-One that include the 3 games, is on Sale in Amazon for 31$ USD....
Buying it on PC would cost me 170$ USD.

[Raging Panda]

R3N님이 먼저 게시:

I been looking forward to buy kingdom hearts on PC for 3 years now.
I don't care if it in Epic or Steam, but Square Enix ridiculous pricing has push me back.


https://i.imgur.com/fQtecjr.png
This is the current pricing on Epic games and there is Black Friday Sale active right now with a -33% off Discount.
But no Square Enix didn't even bother to put it on sale.
They are selling the game at the Full price. The game has not even go down in pricing after 3 years.

Meanwhile the All-In-One that include the 3 games, is on Sale in Amazon for 31$ USD....
Buying it on PC would cost me 170$ USD.

Yeah it's just square enix doing their thing. The pixel remasters are still the same price on steam, with no sale due to autumn sale. That's dumb.

[Waifu4Life]

Personally, I ain't touching this rabbit hole with a 10 foot pole.

[mazewaliztli47]

R3N님이 먼저 게시:

I been looking forward to buy kingdom hearts on PC for 3 years now.
I don't care if it in Epic or Steam, but Square Enix ridiculous pricing has push me back.


https://i.imgur.com/fQtecjr.png
This is the current pricing on Epic games and there is Black Friday Sale active right now with a -33% off Discount.
But no Square Enix didn't even bother to put it on sale.
They are selling the game at the Full price. The game has not even go down in pricing after 3 years.

Meanwhile the All-In-One that include the 3 games, is on Sale in Amazon for 31$ USD....
Buying it on PC would cost me 170$ USD.

It's now on sale in epic with 60% plus the coupon if you want it, Am really for sure the saga will never come to Steam, I still refuse to purchase it on Epic and on top of that, it has always online DRM which can be skip with mods

[Raging Panda]

mazewaliztli47님이 먼저 게시:

R3N님이 먼저 게시:

I been looking forward to buy kingdom hearts on PC for 3 years now.
I don't care if it in Epic or Steam, but Square Enix ridiculous pricing has push me back.


https://i.imgur.com/fQtecjr.png
This is the current pricing on Epic games and there is Black Friday Sale active right now with a -33% off Discount.
But no Square Enix didn't even bother to put it on sale.
They are selling the game at the Full price. The game has not even go down in pricing after 3 years.

Meanwhile the All-In-One that include the 3 games, is on Sale in Amazon for 31$ USD....
Buying it on PC would cost me 170$ USD.

It's now on sale in epic with 60% plus the coupon if you want it, Am really for sure the saga will never come to Steam, I still refuse to purchase it on Epic and on top of that, it has always online DRM which can be skip with mods

Nah, I ain't buying on Epic. Already downloaded the games. When they come to steam, square will get my money. Because that means I can easily install them on steam deck, no putting EGS on there, and all my games are in one place. I don't even care about DRM. EGS just sucks, and I refuse to split my library between two stores when one is vastly superior. Square can have my money when they realize that giving people what they want provides more money than forcing exclusivity to make your fans buy the game over and over.

[Aya]

I still think you're gonna wait forever for KH on Steam.

As for keeping things in one store, it's actually very easy for your Steam library to disappear (IIRC, this was the case on December 21, 2017. Don't remember the exact date, but there was a major outage that made Steam unusable unless you leave your computer on overnight). There is wisdom in keeping your library split across multiple launchers and while it is definitely inconvenient to not have all your games in one place, you'd still have access to other games in times whrtr Steam isn't an option

[Raging Panda]

Aya Shameimaru님이 먼저 게시:

I still think you're gonna wait forever for KH on Steam.

As for keeping things in one store, it's actually very easy for your Steam library to disappear (IIRC, this was the case on December 21, 2017. Don't remember the exact date, but there was a major outage that made Steam unusable unless you leave your computer on overnight). There is wisdom in keeping your library split across multiple launchers and while it is definitely inconvenient to not have all your games in one place, you'd still have access to other games in times whrtr Steam isn't an option

I mean, if steam ever went under, I'd probably just download everything from... other sources. I'd bet on steam's longevity before Epic's, but I get your point. IDK anymore than anyone else if KH will come to steam, though I like the odds given Square isn't Steam adverse. Rather, they are just too stupid to realize that epic's guaranteed money is a bad move. If it wasn't, we'd have seen an increase in games that are epic exclusives, not the decrease. Epic has lost a ton of money it seems from this attempt at monopoly. Tim is an idiot, clearly. They had so much money backing them, they could've actually been a genuine competitor for steam. Instead, they squandered it.