Nicodemous52 6. juni 2023 kl. 4.35
Why would a link to Odysee be considered "dangerous"?
I see people link to videos and written reviews all the time in their reviews on Steam. But I link to my full written review posted on Odysee (yes, you can upload articles as well as videos there) and Steam decides my review is potentially dangerous and must be hidden.

What's the agenda, Steam? Why are we suppressing alt tech? If that's not the reason, then please go on and explain it to me, because it makes no sense unless you are being shills for Google and the rest of the censorious jerks in the valley.
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Nicodemous52 22. juni 2024 kl. 11.49 
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Do people know know the word "dangerous"?
I just described dangerous violent entities.
Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?
Crashed 22. juni 2024 kl. 12.04 
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I just described dangerous violent entities.
Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?
Encouraging people to commit hate crimes isn't dangerous?
fluxtorrent 22. juni 2024 kl. 12.06 
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I just described dangerous violent entities.
Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?
Groomers use words on a screen. Nazi's used words on a screen. literally all propaganda is words on a screen.

Words are the MOST dangerous. If you don't understand that, you are WOEFULLY undereducated.
Sist redigert av fluxtorrent; 22. juni 2024 kl. 12.06
Nicodemous52 22. juni 2024 kl. 12.51 
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Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?
Groomers use words on a screen. Nazi's used words on a screen. literally all propaganda is words on a screen.

Words are the MOST dangerous. If you don't understand that, you are WOEFULLY undereducated.
So it's the word that do the things? You've obviously read hate speech, and yet you've some how rejected it. Where is the danger again? Not from human action, from the words.
Boblin the Goblin 22. juni 2024 kl. 12.54 
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Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?
Encouraging people to commit hate crimes isn't dangerous?
Then they shouldn't link to YouTube since you can find the same there.
fluxtorrent 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.08 
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Groomers use words on a screen. Nazi's used words on a screen. literally all propaganda is words on a screen.

Words are the MOST dangerous. If you don't understand that, you are WOEFULLY undereducated.
So it's the word that do the things? You've obviously read hate speech, and yet you've some how rejected it. Where is the danger again? Not from human action, from the words.
Oh look, a strawman argument. Words only get on a screen by human action
RiO 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.11 
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That makes no sense.

Nothing libertarians or web3 people do or want 'makes sense'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY

The protocol Odysee is based on functionally is a blockchain + bittorrent thing. If its blockchain then by defintion you cannot moderate it, because that is literally the way blockchains work. If you can moderate it, then functionally it can't be part of the blockchain then, which case what is it 'actually' doing

Your own link actually answers that question.
What it is doing is delisting moderated content from public view via the nominal website frontend.

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These systems always become financially unsustainable. How is anyone PAYING for this. Hosting is not free. Bandwidth is not free. YoutTube does it via ads which is why it has pivoted hyper agressively to de-monetize things to make things appealing to its actual 'customers' which are advertisers. Odysee will never get beyond 'mildly fringe' without bankrupting itself

Correct. The original LBRY site, of which Odysee is (was?) a sister operation, actually closed down after they got fined into oblivion for SEC violations, failing to file their crypto as a security. And the SEC lowered their fine substantially because LBRY were already near-defunct.

This stuff doesn't make money and doesn't generate the means to keep it up and running.
Sist redigert av RiO; 23. juni 2024 kl. 12.32
Nicodemous52 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.19 
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So it's the word that do the things? You've obviously read hate speech, and yet you've some how rejected it. Where is the danger again? Not from human action, from the words.
Oh look, a strawman argument. Words only get on a screen by human action
And, the dangerous part? You've yet to demonstrate how the words are in themselves a danger. And don't use terms you don't understand. It makes you look, less than intelligent.
Sist redigert av Nicodemous52; 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.21
fluxtorrent 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.23 
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Oh look, a strawman argument. Words only get on a screen by human action
And, the dangerous part? You've yet to demonstrate how the words are in themselves a danger. And don't use terms you don't understand. It makes you look, less than intelligent.
No, I laid it out, you are just apparently unable to read.

Congrats
Nicodemous52 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.26 
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And, the dangerous part? You've yet to demonstrate how the words are in themselves a danger. And don't use terms you don't understand. It makes you look, less than intelligent.
No, I laid it out, you are just apparently unable to read.

Congrats
They are dangerous because a human put them there. I put lots of things in lots of places, it doesn't make them dangerous. But when you don't know what a strawman is, why is this surprising to me?
Tito Shivan 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.39 
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Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?
You're bound for agood time with the legal system down that route.
Doctor Zalgo 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.48 
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People can download stuff that is illegal in many countries aka most countries outside the USA. Steam is an international service.


What does that have to do with Steam removing links to Odysee?

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You can look at the rules for some hints as to why Valve would want to distance themselces from the site (cherry picked from the Steam rules):
  • Discrimination
  • Encouraging or facilitating real-world violence
  • Exploitation of minors
  • Doxing or posting personal information of other users
  • Encouraging or engaging in piracy or theft


Based on that list, they shouldn't allow YouTube links either.

YouTube has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of passive and active content moderation.
Doctor Zalgo 22. juni 2024 kl. 13.49 
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I just described dangerous violent entities.
Words on a screen are dangerous in your mind?

No more or less dangerous than spoken words. Which can be used to convince someone to fly a plane into a building.

So yeah.
tyl0413 22. juni 2024 kl. 14.24 
You'd really think Google would be able to afford to send it some better bots because this really won't convince me to quit scraping terabytes off their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ out of spite.
Kolpo 22. juni 2024 kl. 14.37 
um sweetie links from odysee are dangerous because they're heckin unwholesome bigot nazis unlike youtube which is well known for its family friendly content
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