Why would a link to Odysee be considered "dangerous"?

[Nicodemous52]

I see people link to videos and written reviews all the time in their reviews on Steam. But I link to my full written review posted on Odysee (yes, you can upload articles as well as videos there) and Steam decides my review is potentially dangerous and must be hidden.

What's the agenda, Steam? Why are we suppressing alt tech? If that's not the reason, then please go on and explain it to me, because it makes no sense unless you are being shills for Google and the rest of the censorious jerks in the valley.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

Odysee was acquired by Google on Feb 8, 2015 .

Are you sure about that?

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

Odysee was acquired by Google on Feb 8, 2015 .

Are you sure about that?

its on google... i dont need to be sure about anything... i dont use the service..

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Are you sure about that?

its on google... i dont need to be sure about anything... i dont use the service..

That doesn't mean Google owns it...considering the owners of it are literally telling you in that Tweet that Google doesn't own it.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

i dont click on hidden links either.... i googled thats what i got...

if its wrong... its wrong..

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

If you have an issue with the filter, contact support.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

If you have an issue with the filter, contact support.

:qr:

The only guess I can think is that since Odysee is technically a web3 thing, it might have just gotten tossed into the filter with other web3 stuff.

[Satoru]

Its essentially a libertarian nonsense bittorrent service that functionally uses its users to pay for bandwidth, because it can't do so othewise. It then pretends to be web3, then simultaneously claims it cannot remove content, while also somehow 'moderating' content that it somehow claims cannot be removed

Like all web3 nonsense it uses its users as part of the grift, cannot sustain itself, has no business model, and will collapse under its own weight the moment it gets 'moderately' popular since you can't rely on scamming your userbase to pump out so much video content constantly.

If you're wondering "why is there no youtube competitors" its because everything about it is EXPENSIVE. And bittorrent doesn't actually solve this problem, it doesn't solve the massive storage or bandwidth costs as, again, as you scale upwards you cannot pretend that 'we will have our users host all our bittorrent content" is not a thing that will actually happen.

If you would like an idea of what these kinds of services fail, look at their competitors that failed like vidme and see, again, why this is basically the same thing in different clothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3snVCRo_bI

Odysee doesn't 'solve' any problems that youtube has or that creators have with youtube. It in fact makes these problems objectively WORSE as, again the things that creators want with youtube are not baked into Odysee, meaing that it will always be worse than YouTube. And again if you put objectively offensive material, how are you 'moderating' something that the service by definition claims is 'not removable on the blockchain'. If something is on the blockchain, it cannot, by definition, be moderated.

[Nicodemous52]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Its essentially a libertarian nonsense bittorrent service that functionally uses its users to pay for bandwidth, because it can't do so othewise. It then pretends to be web3, then simultaneously claims it cannot remove content, while also somehow 'moderating' content that it somehow claims cannot be removed

Like all web3 nonsense it uses its uses as part of the grift, cannot sustain itseful, will collapse under its own weight the moment it gets 'moderately' popular since you can't rely on scamming your userbase to pump out so much video content constantly.

Sure it is, that's why when you go there they hide political content from you by default. You have to make an account and unhide it from yourself if you want to find it without directly knowing what you're looking for. Spout more ignorant nonsense, please it's oh so helpful to any actual conversation.

That's the libertarian default isn't it? To hide and shut up about politics unless you ask them for it... Derp.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Its essentially a libertarian nonsense bittorrent service that functionally uses its users to pay for bandwidth, because it can't do so othewise. It then pretends to be web3, then simultaneously claims it cannot remove content, while also somehow 'moderating' content that it somehow claims cannot be removed

Like all web3 nonsense it uses its users as part of the grift, cannot sustain itself, has no business model, and will collapse under its own weight the moment it gets 'moderately' popular since you can't rely on scamming your userbase to pump out so much video content constantly.

That makes no sense.

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

That makes no sense.

Nothing libertarians or web3 people do or want 'makes sense'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY

The protocol Odysee is based on functionally is a blockchain + bittorrent thing. If its blockchain then by defintion you cannot moderate it, because that is literally the way blockchains work. If you can moderate it, then functionally it can't be part of the blockchain then, which case what is it 'actually' doing

Then you have hosting and bandwidth. First you have to basically burn rainforests to have the blockchain part working (as opposed to spinning up a single mySQL/noSQL instance for literally nothing). Then how do you pay for bandwidth. If your service gets moderately popular, that means your userbase will get so large to the point that no one is actually hosting content but rather consuming it. The ratio of consumers to hosting grows so large that you can't sustain it. That's why any YouTube competitor has to be literally burning entire banks full of cash every month to operate, it is the worst case of almost all costs. Storage costs go through the roof as you have more content. Bandwidth costs scale exponentially as you get more users, and you can't rely on your users 'sharing' bandwidth either.

These systems always become financially unsustainable. How is anyone PAYING for this. Hosting is not free. Bandwidth is not free. YoutTube does it via ads which is why it has pivoted hyper agressively to de-monetize things to make things appealing to its actual 'customers' which are advertisers. Odysee will never get beyond 'mildly fringe' without bankrupting itself

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

That makes no sense.

Nothing libertarians or web3 people do or want 'makes sense'

I'm saying that you aren't making any sense.

[Satoru]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Nothing libertarians or web3 people do or want 'makes sense'

I'm saying that you aren't making any sense.

refer to my edit, but the base protocol was created by a bunch of liberterian goofballs who got sued by the SEC.

[The End]

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

Odysee was acquired by Google on Feb 8, 2015 .

No, The Odysee Google bought was a backup app. Nothing to do with the Odysee Media Site that was launched way later.

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por ragefifty50:

its on google... i dont need to be sure about anything... i dont use the service..

That doesn't mean Google owns it...considering the owners of it are literally telling you in that Tweet that Google doesn't own it.

And that is correct. Google has nothing to do with the Odysee this topic is about.

[Prof.Jackie]

Publicado originalmente por Nicodemous52:

Why would a link to Odysee be considered "dangerous"?

Because it's full of QAnon tinfoil hat insanity and crypto scam ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[JVC]

Steam decides what pages they allow you to link to from their platform. If you don't like those choices take it up with support but don't expect support to agree with your point of view.