Azraeil 2023 年 6 月 5 日 上午 12:09
Steam is not supporting windows 7 anymore form January 2024
Why steam is doing this? Aren't there enough players running on windows 7? I myself have windows 10 but a lot of my friends still use windows 7 and the will be blocked of their games after this update comes.
< >
正在显示第 451 - 465 条,共 1,023 条留言
Kage Goomba 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:04 
引用自 ★Sinon★ <3
引用自 andchaos

You had plenty of years of life to get used to how pain feels , so is it ok to intentionally hurt you? i dont think so :P

What pain?
the OS could access Steam from 2009 and still can do it until 2024. 15 years of service is pretty damn good and you had plenty of time in between to make any needed upgrades

If modern 10 runs like crap on your computer and you don't care at all about security. unironically use 10 1507/1511 and disable Windows Update

Can only disable Windows Update on Win 10 Pro systems - anything less and you can DELAY the update - but you will be forced to update. (Unless someone got very clever and built a hack - even then that can be a bit tricky - have fun)

Win 11 may be an exception but its hell fighting that battle without Active Directory Policies to enforce locally.

Short of pulling your network cable and sabotaging the windows update directory containers - its just not so simple anymore.


Safe to say Windows 11 fits the same rule of thumb.

Microsoft was sued to hell and back again over this - Businesses would get bricked over an windows update - so they gave Sys Admins running AD (Active Directory) systems ways to enforce policies to that end - but you had to have Windows 10 Pro to be able to employ that.

Thankfully you don't need a Domain Controller (AD thing) to do it.
Lixire 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:08 
引用自 Kage Goomba
引用自 ★Sinon★ <3

What pain?
the OS could access Steam from 2009 and still can do it until 2024. 15 years of service is pretty damn good and you had plenty of time in between to make any needed upgrades

If modern 10 runs like crap on your computer and you don't care at all about security. unironically use 10 1507/1511 and disable Windows Update

Can only disable Windows Update on Win 10 Pro systems - anything less and you can DELAY the update - but you will be forced to update. (Unless someone got very clever and built a hack - even then that can be a bit tricky - have fun)

Win 11 may be an exception but its hell fighting that battle without Active Directory Policies to enforce locally.

Short of pulling your network cable and sabotaging the windows update directory containers - its just not so simple anymore.


Safe to say Windows 11 fits the same rule of thumb.

Microsoft was sued to hell and back again over this - Businesses would get bricked over an windows update - so they gave Sys Admins running AD (Active Directory) systems ways to enforce policies to that end - but you had to have Windows 10 Pro to be able to employ that.

Thankfully you don't need a Domain Controller (AD thing) to do it.

10 1507/1511 allowed you to simply disable Windows Update through the "Services" by setting it to disabled. This was before 1607 which introduced all of the safeguards like the Windows Update Medic service.
Kage Goomba 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:16 
引用自 ★Sinon★ <3
引用自 Kage Goomba

Can only disable Windows Update on Win 10 Pro systems - anything less and you can DELAY the update - but you will be forced to update. (Unless someone got very clever and built a hack - even then that can be a bit tricky - have fun)

Win 11 may be an exception but its hell fighting that battle without Active Directory Policies to enforce locally.

Short of pulling your network cable and sabotaging the windows update directory containers - its just not so simple anymore.


Safe to say Windows 11 fits the same rule of thumb.

Microsoft was sued to hell and back again over this - Businesses would get bricked over an windows update - so they gave Sys Admins running AD (Active Directory) systems ways to enforce policies to that end - but you had to have Windows 10 Pro to be able to employ that.

Thankfully you don't need a Domain Controller (AD thing) to do it.

10 1507/1511 allowed you to simply disable Windows Update through the "Services" by setting it to disabled. This was before 1607 which introduced all of the safeguards like the Windows Update Medic service.

Problem is - even in Pro - it would turn it back on.
There's a little "error" tab (i think its called) that has a clause that resets the service on failure...even if you disable it. Little clever "ahahaha" prank from Microsoft.

The only way to stop it from Updating to Windows 11 (for example) - is to put a "Group Policy" that enforces "Only update to THIS version of Windows" which is some alphanumeric tag (I think its H1H20 or something?) which translates to Windows 10 prior to Windows 11 or something. Effectively breaking Windows 11 forced updates for life - until Microsoft breaks that :P

When you google "stopping windows 11 upgrades from 10" you get a list of roughly 10 things to try - this one is near the bottom of said list.

Microsoft is trying very hard to force people to update come hell or high water.
Windows "Home" is very weak to this effect and nearly impossible to stop most times - but it sounds like folks have found ways to stop it - but even then - Pro makes it's very easy at least.
NakiBest 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:18 
Nobody in a sane state of mind should use Windows 10 ver.1511 or lower.
Those are horribly outdated now.

RE updates, yes, you can delay them but NOT stop them fully.
Maybe in Enterprise you could, but not fully sure.
最后由 NakiBest 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:18
Lixire 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:19 
引用自 NakiBest
Nobody in a sane state of mind should use Windows 1511 or lower.
Those are horribly outdated now.

I agree but if the person clearly doesn't care about security, has a weak PC and just wants to access their games. that's a solution for them
cause Chrome 110 and newer does function on 10 1507
Kage Goomba 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:24 
引用自 M3GAHURTZ
引用自 Kage Goomba
Can only disable Windows Update on Win 10 Pro systems - anything less and you can DELAY the update - but you will be forced to update. (Unless someone got very clever and built a hack - even then that can be a bit tricky - have fun)

Win 11 may be an exception but its hell fighting that battle without Active Directory Policies to enforce locally.

Short of pulling your network cable and sabotaging the windows update directory containers - its just not so simple anymore.


Safe to say Windows 11 fits the same rule of thumb.

Microsoft was sued to hell and back again over this - Businesses would get bricked over an windows update - so they gave Sys Admins running AD (Active Directory) systems ways to enforce policies to that end - but you had to have Windows 10 Pro to be able to employ that.

Thankfully you don't need a Domain Controller (AD thing) to do it.
Nope. That's all way too much effort. Just download and run Shutup 10 (even on Win10 home) -> click the switch to disable updates -> reboot -> updates off. Takes less than one minute.

Riiight....I'll just let you sit on that.
Kage Goomba 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:26 
引用自 NakiBest
Nobody in a sane state of mind should use Windows 10 ver.1511 or lower.
Those are horribly outdated now.

RE updates, yes, you can delay them but NOT stop them fully.
Maybe in Enterprise you could, but not fully sure.

Correct - Pro (Enterprise) permits such things due to Microsoft losing their shorts in court over history - repeatedly.

There may be way to break things or hack things to stop them - but anyone running in Win 10 Home (Even 11 Id suspect) - is likely going to be forced to eat the poison pills Microsoft forces on them.

Last I checked the delay can be 6 Weeks? - Then you're forced.
You could nuke the Windows update directory with a script - but that means you'd be re-downloading it every time you turn around.

The switches to disable are not available in Home - Service switches are either missing or auto-reset on any attempt to tamper thanks to recent changes.

Its merely an illusion or a delay as you aptly indicated.
Heraclius Caesar 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 2:41 
引用自 andchaos
引用自 Heraclius Caesar
The Windows 7 crowd have had and still do have plenty of time to acquire and get used to a more recent OS that Steam supports. It is what it is.

You had plenty of years of life to get used to how pain feels , so is it ok to intentionally hurt you? i dont think so :P

I've been dealing with real chronic pain for the last quarter of a century because of a drunk driver. I know what real pain is and how it feels.

If you want to act hurt and like you're experiencing pain because Steam is no longer going to support Windows 7, then you're delusional. Also what's with the constant lame snarky replies with the smiley faces? Is that how you actually are, this bitter mildly annoying kind of guy that just refuses to get the memo and lashes out at everyone?
Komarimaru 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 3:06 
引用自 Kage Goomba
引用自 M3GAHURTZ
Nope. That's all way too much effort. Just download and run Shutup 10 (even on Win10 home) -> click the switch to disable updates -> reboot -> updates off. Takes less than one minute.

Riiight....I'll just let you sit on that.
Mega is a bit... passionate... But they are correct, you can disable and modify anything in Windows 10 and 11 via Shutup10! currently.

I personally don't use anything less than a pro key, since use group polices quite a bit for my own software control, but it is a free and easily accessible option.
andchaos 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 3:11 
引用自 Kage Goomba
Windows updates.... surely you are not that dense.
The rest is a waste of time to even entertain and just goes to prove you have no clue.

Its prove that people still use it and make extensions for it, even when its only cosmetic, but it also proves that you lying the whole time, and dont waste any chance to try demonize others, what is lame, so get lost.
Komarimaru 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 3:14 
引用自 andchaos
引用自 Kage Goomba
Windows updates.... surely you are not that dense.
The rest is a waste of time to even entertain and just goes to prove you have no clue.

Its prove that people still use it and make extensions for it, even when its only cosmetic, but it also proves that you lying the whole time, and dont waste any chance to try demonize others, what is lame, so get lost.
I still update a game/software manager I made for DOS 5.0 and higher when find better ways to code and condense. That doesn't mean DOS 5.0 is supported by Microsoft anymore or other software companies.

Your arguments are a fallacy.
最后由 Komarimaru 编辑于; 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 3:15
😡 Duck 😡 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 4:04 
引用自 SLGray
Why did you not just post in the other hundred topics about this?

STEAM staff have started locking threads discussing this issue:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3830914462350910057/?ctp=331
Stiletto 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 6:35 
引用自 Heraclius Caesar
Bingo.
It's funny that you thought I was approving of that deplorable sentiment. Self-awareness rarely is paired with such a callous attitude.
Stiletto 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 6:40 
引用自 Kage Goomba
But even then - point is - minority[...]they just scream louder than most.
There it is again. Startling how supposedly unpopular viewpoints rear their ugly head as soon as the topic is "safe". This conditioned way of thinking is quite intentional, by the way.
andchaos 2023 年 11 月 18 日 上午 6:43 
引用自 Komarimaru
I still update a game/software manager I made for DOS 5.0 and higher when find better ways to code and condense. That doesn't mean DOS 5.0 is supported by Microsoft anymore or other software companies.

Your arguments are a fallacy.

Nope, people still using the system and many of them, because it works fine, i sayd that "people still use it" and not that its still "supported by Microsoft", you twisting words will not change facts
< >
正在显示第 451 - 465 条,共 1,023 条留言
每页显示数: 1530 50

发帖日期: 2023 年 6 月 5 日 上午 12:09
回复数: 1,023