Steam & Trust Issues (in light of recent Win7/8 cancelation announcements)

[leh2012]

Hello! It is one of the Windows 7 users speaking!

I clearly did put way too much trust into Steam. It is obvious now for me in the light of recent events. Now I became severely dependent on their services because of all the games I recklessly bought on the platform in recent years, driven by huge discounts and instant accessibility. I would be almost unaffected 5-10 years ago.

Now Steam has a serious leverage on me because of my consumerism. It is all my fault. To be honest, I think I never even launched more than half of the games that I bought here. I severely overestimated my free time and desire I had to play videogames... This clearly shows how well marketing model of Steam works, tricking people into useless impulsive purchases. It turns out that majority of titles that I own are not of significant importance to me. On the brighter side, most of them I bought with serious discounts so at least it was not a complete money sink.

What truly makes me sad now is a few gems, that turned out to be my best investments, that I still play online with friends or a few that I enjoy greatly, but they often still require updates or have amazing workshops with user made mods. Losing access to them makes me consider giving in for corporation demands and switching to newer Windows. For the majority of products that I own, I would not seriously regret losing Steam access because I could still easily acquire said products by other means without losing much value. Many games I bought here to simply support developers.

From now on I am considering not making any further purchases via Steam. Partly because of the current situation with Win7/8. Partly because I have way too much games that I never launched. Partly because I almost see no worthy new games on the horizon. Also in part because now I have less time for gaming than before. Perhaps it would be even wiser to abandon the gaming altogether and concentrate efforts in different areas of my life. But only time will tell if I do it or not.

Now, I would also recommend you reconsider your approach to buying games here as well. Maybe it will help you save a few hundred dollars in the long run, maybe it will even benefit your life indirectly... Who knows? In any way, have a good time of the day, fellow Steam users. I wish you all the best in your lives!

[ShadowShifterMarlith]

Valve can update steam all they want. I'm not joining them in the updates.

I'll game on what I already got now.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

but we upgrade everything else all the time.... nVidia do upgrades every 3 days..
and software programs are always getting better with upgrades....

good on you for doing you

[Start_Running]

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Same here, I'm hoping they are already working on solutions such as Legacy Launchers.

They aren't.

They didn't for WinXP. They won't be for Win7.

It's telling there because going from XP to 7 or 109, did cost money. There was no free upgrade path for that. The Jump from 7 to 10 is basically free.

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

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They aren't.

They didn't for WinXP. They won't be for Win7.

It's telling there because going from XP to 7 or 109, did cost money. There was no free upgrade path for that. The Jump from 7 to 10 is basically free.

actually upgrading to 7 10 or 11 are all free to do

doing a clean install of 7 or newer DID NOT ask for a product key during install

you could freely get to the windows desktop and never activate a key just have watermarks on your screen but use the os completely free

xp however refused to install clean if you did not provide a product key

i know from 2 weeks ago i installed xp and 7 in my vms

[Start_Running]

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It's telling there because going from XP to 7 or 109, did cost money. There was no free upgrade path for that. The Jump from 7 to 10 is basically free.

actually upgrading to 7 10 or 11 are all free to do

doing a clean install of 7 or newer DID NOT ask for a product key during install

you could freely get to the windows desktop and never activate a key just have watermarks on your screen but use the os completely free

xp however refused to install clean if you did not provide a product key

i know from 2 weeks ago i installed xp and 7 in my vms

It used to. NOw however it doesn't I think it changed after they EOL'd that.

[Muppet among Puppets]

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actually upgrading to 7 10 or 11 are all free to do

doing a clean install of 7 or newer DID NOT ask for a product key during install

you could freely get to the windows desktop and never activate a key just have watermarks on your screen but use the os completely free

xp however refused to install clean if you did not provide a product key

i know from 2 weeks ago i installed xp and 7 in my vms

It used to. NOw however it doesn't I think it changed after they EOL'd that.

Now 7 is not a key for 10?

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

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actually upgrading to 7 10 or 11 are all free to do

doing a clean install of 7 or newer DID NOT ask for a product key during install

you could freely get to the windows desktop and never activate a key just have watermarks on your screen but use the os completely free

xp however refused to install clean if you did not provide a product key

i know from 2 weeks ago i installed xp and 7 in my vms

It used to. NOw however it doesn't I think it changed after they EOL'd that.

just installed xp in vm 2 weeks ago, it wouldnt let me proceed without a key 7 and 10 dont do that

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

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It used to. NOw however it doesn't I think it changed after they EOL'd that.

Now 7 is not a key for 10?

it is but u dont need a key for 7 or 10 as they function without keys

[Chesmu]

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Valve can update steam all they want. I'm not joining them in the updates.

I'll game on what I already got now.

Same, but some games are online and users can have investments in them, and some don't function without updates. A Legacy launcher from Valve would solve that, or at-least help with offline games.

[FU]

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Valve can update steam all they want. I'm not joining them in the updates.

I'll game on what I already got now.

Same, but some games are online and users can have investments in them, and some don't function without updates. A Legacy launcher from Valve would solve that, or at-least help with offline games.

"A Legacy launcher from Valve would solve that, or at-least help with offline games."

Exactly my thoughts as well...as a Windows 7 user.

At some point, these upgrades and new systems are truly just scams forcing people to keep buying the next big new just to keep up in a vicious repeating cycle of corporate greed. The pushback recently is we've clearly reached a space where updating/grading is more redundant than productive value producing. At some point, a wheel can't really be made to operate better than it fundamentally already is, basically.

I have a lot of $ and time invested in my Steam Account using Windows 7. I was going to continue purchasing more games and gaming as I have been, but they want to end all that unless I "upgrade"...to what, exactly??? More "security" and "safety"??? Nice try. Steam just betrayed my trust in them and the investment I have made in them.

They could easily continue supporting Windows 7 in some form and it would only serve to strengthen the company.

[BJWyler]

They could have easily continued supporting 98. They could have easily continued supporting 2000. They could have continued to support every old OS. Why was Windows 7 necessary when XP suited PC users very well, and remains the best operating system. Corporate greed brought us Windows 7. I spent a lot if time and money on my DOS games and 5.25" floppy disks.

The progress of technology marches on, and sometimes that means older technology needs to be left behind. The Gaming Industry and Gaming Community have been a driving force in that advancement in the PC space. One either continues to move along with the progress of technology, or one gets left behind.

[Authentic Mikutard]

Break the cycle, go Linux, be free. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499jqHWZ-Ts