the "why are you still on windows 7/8.1" thread

[Psymon²]

this thread is for educational purposes only.
people have their reasons.
this thread is to understand them.
NO hostility towards windows 7/8.1 users is permittedLOL AS IF I CAN STOP ANYONE

Why are you still on windows 7/8.1?
Why are you not on windows 10? or Windows 11?

edit:
note that it is the "fault" of google chrome
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

edit: epic's game fortnite dropped support for windows 7/8.1 on 2023-03-10
they gave 13 weeks notice.
valve is giving 9 months notice.

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

win10 is free to use
win11 is free to use
win7 is free to use
win98 is free to use
the only windows that FORCED you to activate during install is windows xp

[Skkooomer Lord]

Origineel geplaatst door Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}:

win10 is free to use
win11 is free to use
win7 is free to use
win98 is free to use
the only windows that FORCED you to activate during install is windows xp

wronmg i have ti pay for NASA PC

[Stiletto]

Because nothing that Windows 10 or 11 can do that Windows 7 can't do is anything I'm interested in doing. In addition, I find the behavior by which 10/11 updates to be extremely intrusive and undesirable.

And most of all: I do not fall for the corporate illusion of "increased security" on 10/11. When someone can explain to me how Windows 10 or 11 prevents ransomware attacks, overrides hardware backdoors in network devices, or can override the hardware backdoors in both your CPU and your motherboard's firmware, then I'll consider upgrading.

I already had my personal information stolen, and it had literally nothing to do with what operating system I was using, and everything to do with the corporations I was unfortunately forced to give my information to in order to participate in purchasing anything online. Your "information security" is entirely out of your hands, even if at this point you go innawoods and completely go off the grid.

[Stiletto]

Origineel geplaatst door Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}:

win10 is free to use

So why does it demand a product key?

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

Origineel geplaatst door Engage:

Origineel geplaatst door Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}:

win10 is free to use
win11 is free to use
win7 is free to use
win98 is free to use
the only windows that FORCED you to activate during install is windows xp

wronmg i have ti pay for NASA PC

nasa pc is not windows so does not belong in my list

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

Origineel geplaatst door Stiletto:

Origineel geplaatst door Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}:

win10 is free to use

So why does it demand a product key?

it does not demand a product key
i used win10 for 8 yrs with no product key

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

you can install win10 fresh on new drive

it never asks for a key during install

when you get to desktop it has activate windows watermark but you can just ignore it or do registry hack to hide if so inclined

never does it force you to activate, win10 and 11 can be used completely and simply free

[Antr4cite]

Origineel geplaatst door Psymon²:

Why are you still on windows 7/8.1?

Because my desktop PC (second-hand HP DC7700) works flawlessly and It's very fast with the Windows 8.1 Pro OS. I never got a single problem with it. I don't feel the need to upgrade it. Other than the antivirus database, I don't update/upgrade the software I have. If it works fine I don't change anything.

For my casual usage and my casual gaming it's perfectly fine and I'm not going to throw away a good working computer that fulfills my needs, just to keep up with the new version of an OS or just because there is a new game that I can't play on my computer.

Origineel geplaatst door Psymon²:

Why are you not on windows 10? or Windows 11?

I have it on my laptop (second-hand Lenovo T530) because the dealer included the OEM license :) . I also use it everyday in my work and doesn't bother me. It's an OS like any other. It's just a tool.

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I don't care too much about all this end-of-support thing, because in the end we will find solutions to play the games we like, but it's just sad that we are contributing to an industry that can lock the access to our games whenever they want. People should be able to play the games they paid for, no matter the OS they have. If a game was sold within an OS lifetime and the store client decides to no longer support that OS, the consumer should be allowed to download a DRM free version of it or have a "legacy" client just to download, unlock the DRM protection and play the game without all the extra online services/connections for the so called "security" reasons.

[Wolfstorm]

Origineel geplaatst door Stiletto:

And most of all: I do not fall for the corporate illusion of "increased security" on 10/11. When someone can explain to me how Windows 10 or 11 prevents ransomware attacks, overrides hardware backdoors in network devices, or can override the hardware backdoors in both your CPU and your motherboard's firmware, then I'll consider upgrading.

What are the odds of Windows 10 spying on you through a VM?
I could try it in Virtual Box. But what if the surveillance go beyond the borders of the VM? Would there not be a risk as well? I install W10 in the VM and starts pestering me for upgrades in W7?

[marcus_a_coffee]

The reason I still use Windows 7 is that I have a lot of old games that don't run on any newer versions of Windows, in fact I have about 30 old games I can't play as Windows 7 is too new a version so I am looking for a PC running Win95/8 so I can play them!

Just before Steam/Valve stop working on Windows 7 I will simply disconnect this PC from the internet permanently and just play offline until it dies old age. So what if it never updates? Problem solved :)

[Psymon²]

Origineel geplaatst door Stiletto:

Origineel geplaatst door Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}:

win10 is free to use

So why does it demand a product key?

"demand"
it doesn't...
perhaps you mean a word other than "demand"?

yes... semantics are important.

[Psymon²]

Origineel geplaatst door marcus_a_coffee:

The reason I still use Windows 7 is that I have a lot of old games that don't run on any newer versions of Windows, in fact I have about 30 old games I can't play as Windows 7 is too new a version so I am looking for a PC running Win95/8 so I can play them!

Just before Steam/Valve stop working on Windows 7 I will simply disconnect this PC from the internet permanently and just play offline until it dies old age. So what if it never updates? Problem solved :)

asking because i am curious.
have you looked into creating a Virtual Machine running those older operating systems?

[andchaos]

Origineel geplaatst door brian9824:

EPIC, Ubisoft, GoG, Origin, etc are all phasing it out or have already done so. Steam is one of the LAST gaming sites still supporting Windows 7, years after its own developer stopped doing so...
.

As far i know, game shops like GOG have no client restricted game launcher, you get the game instaler/files and you can play your game on any system your have.

[Psymon²]

Origineel geplaatst door Psymon²:

Origineel geplaatst door Psymon²:

Origineel geplaatst door Psymon²:

i politely ask all to ignore those who seek to derail or antagonise with combative posts; do not reply to them.
better yet, block them.
if you feel like it, report them.

seems worth repeating ☝👆

I feel a need to repeat this again 👆☝

once more 👆☝

[Exilyth]

I would need a new computer to upgrade to a new OS and I just don't have the resources required for that right now.

I've been running a dual boot w/Linux for years so currently I'm busy finding out which of my games run under proton.