WTF？why stop supporting Windows 7？

[😡 Duck 😡]

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

If we're fanboys.... you don't think XP, Vista and 2000 users called you one as well for using 7?

The difference is that I don't berate people for running older operating systems, and I don't tell them that they are liars because "windows 7 clearly works flawlessly on a pentium 95".

I really don't care what you choose to run on your machine, but I do care if steam drops access to games I like just because they want their steam client to use quantum dimensional holotypefonts or whatever the reason to drop 7, because it works fine now, (apart from the integrated browser that never really worked, because I don't have a google browser on my system or something ... but I can live without that).

Another person pointing the finger in the wrong place. Who ended support in 2020? Microsoft. Valve chose to support it for four more years.

[Bayster]

Publicado originalmente por Flopmewf the Indicated:

I don't berate people for using ancient operation systems either, but the flood gates are open when people say "If they don't do what I want them to do, I will give them the old one two!"

There are quite a lot of people unhappy with the added 'security features' from windows 10 onward. These people are looking for alternatives. Steam-OS could be that alternative. So some people like me run linux but keep win7 around to play games we love that don't run well on steamOS (yet). To drop access from win7 while steamOS isn't polished enough removes that jumping board.
Me stating I won't buy 'windows only' games from them when they barr access from win7 is not a threat, it is a fact. Why would I buy those games from steam if I don't have a windows system that can access steam but at the same time a competitive publisher is perfectly accessable from win7?
Suppose I decide to buy a whole new system with the latest intell and nvidea hardware tuned specifically for the latest windows, just to play my games... Something tells me I really wouldn't be that interested in steamOS anymore.

The fact Valve have invested in the steam deck kind of tells me they do care a teeny little bit about that steamOS demographic...

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

Publicado originalmente por Flopmewf the Indicated:

I don't berate people for using ancient operation systems either, but the flood gates are open when people say "If they don't do what I want them to do, I will give them the old one two!"

There are quite a lot of people unhappy with the added 'security features' from windows 10 onward. These people are looking for alternatives. Steam-OS could be that alternative. So some people like me run linux but keep win7 around to play games we love that don't run well on steamOS (yet). To drop access from win7 while steamOS isn't polished enough removes that jumping board.
Me stating I won't buy 'windows only' games from them when they barr access from win7 is not a threat, it is a fact. Why would I buy those games from steam if I don't have a windows system that can access steam but at the same time a competitive publisher is perfectly accessable from win7?
Suppose I decide to buy a whole new system with the latest intell and nvidea hardware tuned specifically for the latest windows, just to play my games... Something tells me I really wouldn't be that interested in steamOS anymore.

The fact Valve have invested in the steam deck kind of tells me they do care a teeny little bit about that steamOS demographic...

Valve won't miss your purchases, either.

[BJWyler]

Publicado originalmente por awg:

Due to the hardware limitations like too limited memory, small amount of cycles of the CPU and software limitations like outdated OS which couldn't support high amount of RAM anyway, caused this brand new virus to lie on a 1 GB hard disc as a dead weight. So our techs said that I could safely remove it and continue to work. I occupied many different kinds of work but this incident was one of the most memorable in my life.

The thing is, malware doesn't magically vanish from the internet. Once out in the wild, it's always there. So that new virus might have not affected that older machine, but there's still plenty out there that can. It's even worse for that machine since it stopped receiving updates, but the malware didn't, so there are even more "transitional" ones that may have targeted the next OS than the old machine used, but still very much can affect that old machine.

[Harmonica]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

If we're fanboys.... you don't think XP, Vista and 2000 users called you one as well for using 7?

The difference is that I don't berate people for running older operating systems, and I don't tell them that they are liars because "windows 7 clearly works flawlessly on a pentium 95".

If it's your first time going through a 'forced' upgrade, then yeah, it sucks. Especially with an OS as good as Win 7. But it seems like you've probably been playing games for a while, and so I find it hard to believe it's the first time you've ever had to upgrade to a newer OS, be it software or by purchasing a new machine.

Also even if you don't berate people for their OS, you apparently do chastise those wanting to play games on the latest hardware (or something, which I really don't understand at all).

There's nothing making someone more of a gamer just because they use an older OS. After all, few of us are still running Amigas, Ataris, Speccys or BBC Micros... And the same argument could be made against people who bought the first graphics cards in the 90s - imagine that, wanting to play games in 3D at 640x480 resolution... or to those buying a new display just to see games in VGA as opposed to dithered black and white... or loading games with floppies instead of tape drives etc etc. None of us playing games have any claim to legitimacy over others.

If you've lasted out this long, then you've done well. You have surely earnt back the cost of a new machine. But ultimately gaming is an expensive hobby and its progress waits for no one.

[BJWyler]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

The fact Valve have invested in the steam deck kind of tells me they do care a teeny little bit about that steamOS demographic...

I think it's more of Valve investing in the hand held PC market and using a Linux based OS simplifies doing that, over a windows based OS. SteamOS is simply the means to the end.

[Bayster]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Another person pointing the finger in the wrong place. Who ended support in 2020? Microsoft. Valve chose to support it for four more years.

Then let me ask you this: Who launched an operating system and a mobile pc to compete with windows 11 for all of the reasons why windows 7 users are not 'upgrading'? And at the end of the year, will this new operating system on this mobile pc be polished enough to play all games that currently run on windows 7?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Another person pointing the finger in the wrong place. Who ended support in 2020? Microsoft. Valve chose to support it for four more years.

Then let me ask you this: Who launched an operating system and a mobile pc to compete with windows 11 for all of the reasons why windows 7 users are not 'upgrading'? And at the end of the year, will this new operating system on this mobile pc be polished enough to play all games that currently run on windows 7?

You didn't answer the question. Why aren't you mad at Microsoft? They ended support first.

[Bayster]

Publicado originalmente por Harmonica:

Also even if you don't berate people for their OS, you apparently do chastise those wanting to play games on the latest hardware (or something, which I really don't understand at all).

That was an ironic retort towards comments that said people on windows 7 aren't real gamers actually ...

[Shoobflops]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

Publicado originalmente por Flopmewf the Indicated:

I don't berate people for using ancient operation systems either, but the flood gates are open when people say "If they don't do what I want them to do, I will give them the old one two!"

There are quite a lot of people unhappy with the added 'security features' from windows 10 onward. These people are looking for alternatives. Steam-OS could be that alternative. So some people like me run linux but keep win7 around to play games we love that don't run well on steamOS (yet). To drop access from win7 while steamOS isn't polished enough removes that jumping board.
Me stating I won't buy 'windows only' games from them when they barr access from win7 is not a threat, it is a fact. Why would I buy those games from steam if I don't have a windows system that can access steam but at the same time a competitive publisher is perfectly accessable from win7?
Suppose I decide to buy a whole new system with the latest intell and nvidea hardware tuned specifically for the latest windows, just to play my games... Something tells me I really wouldn't be that interested in steamOS anymore.

The fact Valve have invested in the steam deck kind of tells me they do care a teeny little bit about that steamOS demographic...

There are "quite a lot" more people who regularly keep their computer upgraded. Also some basic cyber security knowledge will go a long way.

[Tito Shivan]

Publicado originalmente por Bayster:

Then let me ask you this: Who launched an operating system and a mobile pc to compete with windows 11 for all of the reasons why windows 7 users are not 'upgrading'?

Who did?

[Bayster]

Publicado originalmente por Flopmewf the Indicated:

Also some basic cyber security knowledge will go a long way.

LMAO

[pheno]

I'm just wondering how many games don't support Win10 and never get updated, and will soon gather dust in the library because Steam already forces you to be online all the time with a lot of offline SP games...

[*+!:) !! *kToh *]

I find it crazy that there are this many people still using windows 7... also, you say your hardware has a noticeable reduction on windows 10, I find it hard to believe that you can afford to buy about 500 games but you cant upgrade your system hardware? Maybe your priories are in the wrong place my man. You just seem like one of those people who refuse change.

[awg]

And why people have to accept every change? It's not an inevitable change like getting older. No, it's a change that dictates you how you suppose to play your games. Do you really think that these changes are for the better? I remember the time when Steam client was working with no issues, it was before the GUI got changed to the new one. Today Steam is full of problems and instead of fixing them Valve gives us this kind of "changes".

Again Steam is still capable to provide basic services even for 32-bit systems. I could only understand the reason if Valve has been forced to use CEF. Like, there is no other way around this decision.