WTF？why stop supporting Windows 7？

[😡 Duck 😡]

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

[Boblin the Goblin]

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

They aren't.

The part of the SSA I showed you was the same back then. Denying it doesn't change that. You probably find a copy of it on the web as well.

At this point, you are purposely ignoring anything that puts holes in claims you make. In other words, just trolling.

I haven't been denying anything... I've been providing counter-points that I consider completely valid.

I'd contest that you are in fact the one denying points and furthermore I disapprove of your shaming others for trying to express how this has personally effected them.

You denied the SSA is the same here;

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

They just streamlined it.

That tag is now just a button you check when creating an account.

steamlined it more like it...

however what is now and what I agreed to when I activated my product L4D2 are 2 very different things...

Denied that the box says you need Steam to play the game here;

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

The box tells you that you need Steam to play the game.

where on the box?

do you have one too? because mine only seems to say:

product offered subject to your acceptance of the [SSA]. you must activate this product via the internet by registering for a steam account and accepting the SSA.

along with some nonsense about reviewing the SSA before purchase which was next to impossible to do back then and returning it if you don't accept the SSA which probably isn't in accordance with the retailers return policy in 2008ish...

so where was that again where is says that on the box?

Denied that requiring user to update their OS isn't in the ToS here;

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

C²C^Guyver |NZB| eredeti hozzászólása:

How so? You're the one who keeps saying over and over and over how what Valve is doing is illegal. So, take them to court. Sitting here ranting day after day on a forum doesn't do anything. You have three options, speak with your wallet by not buying any more games on Steam, suing them or simply dropping it all together.

actually I keep pointing out that what they're forcing is not covered by the TOS... you and people with similar opinions are the ones trying to make it a legal issue.

So yes, there has been a lot of denial going on. The "points" you have are repeatedly shown to not be valid.

[BJWyler]

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

Piston Smashed™ eredeti hozzászólása:

You activated it when you entered the Steam code into "Activate a Product on Steam" and hit enter which then added the game to your Steam account. The Steam code is usually found on the back of the manual or on a slip of paper inside the case of your L4D.

that too.

this used to be common sense... but I guess it's become convoluted with the "games-as-a-servie" nonsense where people don't remember how product rights work...

That's if you assume software has been treated as if it was the same as any other product in a legal sense. I don't think it ever has.

[AlexTheRedScout]

Kiwi {JESUS IS LORD} eredeti hozzászólása:

Alex eredeti hozzászólása:

whoosh you missed the point

Gabe Newell/Net worth
4.3 billion USD
2023

How much is Valve NET worth? (Valuation) Valve is worth $7.7 billion in 2022, according to a recent Bloomberg forecast.Aug 14, 2023

also missed the point completely

[AlexTheRedScout]

since almost nobody understood what i was saying valve isn't a billionaire we got so many other companies to go to and yet all of them blow it meanwhile valve is made by the same poeple who play games not only that they were a small dev company that we supported in short valve would not be were it is without us they learn form us they made money from us we were the ones that built valve so of course its not going to fall because some whiny children who want valve to exactly be the thing they don't want valve to be

[xBCxRangers]

Alex eredeti hozzászólása:

since almost nobody understood what i was saying valve isn't a billionaire we got so many other companies to go to and yet all of them blow it meanwhile valve is made by the same poeple who play games not only that they were a small dev company that we supported in short valve would not be were it is without us they learn form us they made money from us we were the ones that built valve so of course its not going to fall because some whiny children who want valve to exactly be the thing they don't want valve to be

Well, you got Phil Spencer, and that makes Mr Newells mere 7 billion look like a parking ticket lol. They just bought A/B for 70 billion. Which is to say, Mr Newell and Valve are small potatoes, and low on the totem pole.

And it may be they, and streaming our libraries thru a 300 dollar Xbox that may be a better deal that 2 grand computers and all this OS nonsense.

[Boblin the Goblin]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

Alex eredeti hozzászólása:

since almost nobody understood what i was saying valve isn't a billionaire we got so many other companies to go to and yet all of them blow it meanwhile valve is made by the same poeple who play games not only that they were a small dev company that we supported in short valve would not be were it is without us they learn form us they made money from us we were the ones that built valve so of course its not going to fall because some whiny children who want valve to exactly be the thing they don't want valve to be

Well, you got Phil Spencer, and that makes Mr Newells mere 7 billion look like a parking ticket lol. They just bought A/B for 70 billion. Which is to say, Mr Newell and Valve are small potatoes, and low on the totem pole.

And it may be they, and streaming our libraries thru a 300 dollar Xbox that may be a better deal that 2 grand computers and all this OS nonsense.

Good thing Valve isn't for sale. Especially to a company has paid 10x more than Valve in settling lawsuits against them.

[AlexTheRedScout]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

Alex eredeti hozzászólása:

since almost nobody understood what i was saying valve isn't a billionaire we got so many other companies to go to and yet all of them blow it meanwhile valve is made by the same poeple who play games not only that they were a small dev company that we supported in short valve would not be were it is without us they learn form us they made money from us we were the ones that built valve so of course its not going to fall because some whiny children who want valve to exactly be the thing they don't want valve to be

Well, you got Phil Spencer, and that makes Mr Newells mere 7 billion look like a parking ticket lol. They just bought A/B for 70 billion. Which is to say, Mr Newell and Valve are small potatoes, and low on the totem pole.

And it may be they, and streaming our libraries thru a 300 dollar Xbox that may be a better deal that 2 grand computers and all this OS nonsense.

this this stuff makes you a clown on the steam community

[kingjames488]

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

words and statements

as far as I can tell none of the things you're asserting are actually correct and you're just going over the points I've already addressed again...

[Boblin the Goblin]

Thank you for showing everyone.

[kingjames488]

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

Thank you for showing everyone.

sorry, I'm not going to give to access to my product...

[xBCxRangers]

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

Thank you for showing everyone.

sorry, I'm not going to give to access to my product...

Hello

Thank you King James. You have won this argument.

[kingjames488]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

sorry, I'm not going to give to access to my product...

Hello

Thank you King James. You have won this argument.

as far as I'm concerned I won when everyone just kept repeated the same tired nonsense that doesn't apply >.>

just keeping this going in good faith.

[xBCxRangers]

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

Hello

Thank you King James. You have won this argument.

as far as I'm concerned I won when everyone just kept repeated the same tired nonsense that doesn't apply >.>

just keeping this going in good faith.

Thank you kind sir.

[Boblin the Goblin]

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

SlowMango eredeti hozzászólása:

Thank you for showing everyone.

sorry, I'm not going to give to access to my product...

Every choice has a consequence. This one will appear Jan 1st.

[kingjames488]

xBCxRangers eredeti hozzászólása:

kingjames488 eredeti hozzászólása:

as far as I'm concerned I won when everyone just kept repeated the same tired nonsense that doesn't apply >.>

just keeping this going in good faith.

I will do that. Thank you kind sir.

for what? winning the contest you created within your own mind to defeat me?