WTF？why stop supporting Windows 7？

[😡 Duck 😡]

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

[Komarimaru]

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

Very well, then you can post a screenshot of the SteamChina download page for the client, and download the latest, surely you won't get SSL errors or anything, right?

Hello

Just downloaded it few minuted ago and installed it on my sandbox and same result as i posted before...

Then why does...

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por lsdninja:

It probably geolocated you and gave you the normal client automatically set to Simplifed Chinese 🤣

Hello

No clue , possible as i re tryed with the last client downloaded from store.steamchina.com and it gives me the same result as before, nothing to compare with the picture posted by @Komarimaru
But i think it's the good client
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.FileVersion:08.38.22.54
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.CompanyName:Valve Corporation
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.ProductVersion:01.00.00.01
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.FileDescription:Steam China Bootstrapper
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.Source Control ID:8382254
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.OriginalFilename:steamchina.exe
VS_VERSION_INFO.StringFileInfo.040904b0.ProductName:Steam China Bootstrapper
VS_VERSION_INFO.VarFileInfo.Translation:04b00409
And you can easily reproduce what i've done running it under a sandbox; not very hard to do

Match the International Version? 08.38.22.54
And the Product Version looking more like the April/May Version of Steam, and not the Chinese one?

Heck, anyone can do that right now. Find your Steam.exe, Properties, Details. You'll see the same File Version as what you listed, which makes no sense.

[bidulless]

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

Match the International Version? 08.38.22.54
And the Product Version looking more like the April/May Version of Steam, and not the Chinese one?

Hello

Easy to do and i do not vpn:
First install a sandbox if you do not have one , i suggest you to use sandboxie
https://sandboxie-plus.com/
Then go to store.steamchina.com and download the client on top right
Then run it inside sandboxy and you will get what i posted nothing more, nothing less.
With all this instruction , people can make their own point of view about this subject...

[Komarimaru]

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

Match the International Version? 08.38.22.54
And the Product Version looking more like the April/May Version of Steam, and not the Chinese one?

Hello

Easy to do and i do not vpn:
First install a sandbox if you do not have one , i suggest you to use sandboxie
https://sandboxie-plus.com/
then go to store.steamchina.com and download the client on top right
then run it inside sandboxy and you will get what i posted nothing more, nothing less.

That doesn't answer my question.

Why does your File Version, and Product Version, match the May/April version of Steam International, and not the China Client?

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

The lengths that some people will go to.....

[bidulless]

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Hello

Easy to do and i do not vpn:
First install a sandbox if you do not have one , i suggest you to use sandboxie
https://sandboxie-plus.com/
then go to store.steamchina.com and download the client on top right
then run it inside sandboxy and you will get what i posted nothing more, nothing less.

That doesn't answer my question.

Why does your File Version, and Product Version, match the May/April version of Steam International, and not the China Client?

hello

Because i had cleared the sandbox and used the SteamChinaSetup.exe downloaded from the 5th may 2023 to setup it up again so i guess it just download files he find on the cdn that's all which are the same as the files download with the last SteamChinaSetup.exe

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

That doesn't answer my question.

Why does your File Version, and Product Version, match the May/April version of Steam International, and not the China Client?

hello

Because i had cleared the sandbox and used the SteamChinaSetup.exe downloaded from the 5th may 2023 to setup it up again so i guess it just download files he find on the cdn that's all.

Clearing it is not going to make it something that it isn't. If it was the Chinese client. It would say that. It doesn't.

[Komarimaru]

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

That doesn't answer my question.

Why does your File Version, and Product Version, match the May/April version of Steam International, and not the China Client?

hello

Because i had cleared the sandbox and used the SteamChinaSetup.exe downloaded from the 5th may 2023 to setup it up again so i guess it just download files he find on the cdn that's all which are the same as the files download with the last SteamChinaSetup.exe

You just stated earlier, you just download the latest version. So that makes no sense. Secondly, the China Client has a different File Version number, even from May/April.

So, not sure what you're trying to say?

[bidulless]

Originalmente postado por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

hello

Because i had cleared the sandbox and used the SteamChinaSetup.exe downloaded from the 5th may 2023 to setup it up again so i guess it just download files he find on the cdn that's all.

Clearing it is not going to make it something that it isn't. If it was the Chinese client. It would say that. It doesn't.

Hello

Why are you continue to argument about that, do it by yourself and see the result ; nothing more easier.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Clearing it is not going to make it something that it isn't. If it was the Chinese client. It would say that. It doesn't.

Hello

Why are you continue to argument about that, do it by yourself and see the result ; nothing more easier.

You're the one arguing. You had the chance to just bow out yet here we are two pages later? You're making things up, instead of just admitting that you don't know what you're talking about. You've done this before. What's even more funny is if Koma was one of your fellow Windows 7 supporters, you would have acquiesced pages ago and just said "Thank you for the information"and called it a day. I've seen you do it many times. With the right user of course.

[bidulless]

Originalmente postado por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Hello

Why are you continue to argument about that, do it by yourself and see the result ; nothing more easier.

You're the one arguing. You had the chance to just bow out yet here we are two pages later? You're making things up, instead of just admitting that you don't know what you're talking about. You've done this before. What's even more funny is if Koma was one of your fellow Windows 7 supporters, you would have acquiesced pages ago and just said "Thank you for the information"and called it a day. I've seen you do it many times. With the right user of course.

Hello

I guess i am trying to be honest with anyone, even with people i am not agree with and it's common for me to say thx to people that gave me valuable information when they did.

That does not change the fact that you can easily verify by yourself with the instruction i gave you and stop arguing : everything is in your hand, just use it or stay ignorant and trust any bs you can read ...

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Originalmente postado por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You're the one arguing. You had the chance to just bow out yet here we are two pages later? You're making things up, instead of just admitting that you don't know what you're talking about. You've done this before. What's even more funny is if Koma was one of your fellow Windows 7 supporters, you would have acquiesced pages ago and just said "Thank you for the information"and called it a day. I've seen you do it many times. With the right user of course.

Hello

I guess i am trying to be honest with anyone, even with people i am not agree with and it's common for me to say thx to people that gave me valuable information when they did.

That does not change the fact that you can easily verify by yourself with the instruction i gave you and stop arguing : everything is in your hand, just use it or stay ignorant and trust any bs you can read ...

The only BS that I see is coming from you. Someone who apparently is so desperate to try to be right, even when they're wrong.

There is absolutely nothing wrong, with not knowing about something. There is absolutely something wrong, with pretending that you know something, when you do not.

You cannot even run the Chinese client outside of China.

You even went so far as to say yes they have Counter-Strike. Of course they do, no one said that they didn't. Valve specifically made a separate client so that they would not lose the Chinese market or those players.

[Hobbit XIII]

Originalmente postado por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originalmente postado por bidulless:

Hello

I guess i am trying to be honest with anyone, even with people i am not agree with and it's common for me to say thx to people that gave me valuable information when they did.

That does not change the fact that you can easily verify by yourself with the instruction i gave you and stop arguing : everything is in your hand, just use it or stay ignorant and trust any bs you can read ...

The only BS that I see is coming from you. Someone who apparently is so desperate to try to be right, even when they're wrong.

There is absolutely nothing wrong, with not knowing about something. There is absolutely something wrong, with pretending that you know something, when you do not.

You cannot even run the Chinese client outside of China.

You even went so far as to say yes they have Counter-Strike. Of course they do, no one said that they didn't. Valve specifically made a separate client so that they would not lose the Chinese market or those players.

Have you tried the chinese client through the sandbox thing?

[Komarimaru]

Originalmente postado por Hobbit XIII:

Originalmente postado por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

The only BS that I see is coming from you. Someone who apparently is so desperate to try to be right, even when they're wrong.

There is absolutely nothing wrong, with not knowing about something. There is absolutely something wrong, with pretending that you know something, when you do not.

You cannot even run the Chinese client outside of China.

You even went so far as to say yes they have Counter-Strike. Of course they do, no one said that they didn't. Valve specifically made a separate client so that they would not lose the Chinese market or those players.

Have you tried the chinese client through the sandbox thing?

You can't even download it, outside of China for 99% of countries. You'd have to get it from someone, from China for the setup file. And even then, it won't connect unless in China in most cases.

[bidulless]

Originalmente postado por Komarimaru:

Originalmente postado por Hobbit XIII:

Have you tried the chinese client through the sandbox thing?

You can't even download it, outside of China for 99% of countries. You'd have to get it from someone, from China for the setup file. And even then, it won't connect unless in China in most cases.

Hello
So france is one of these county i guess , strange no ?

i can post you also all the dns history used during the setup process if you need but i think you will find another story to explain them , because well , they are not the same as the one used for the current steam client.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

I mean, I have friends on Steam that have cousins who still live in Shanghai and it wouldn't be hard to get you screenshots but all you would do is just brush them off so...

At some point, you just have to throw in the towel. The fact that you can't even download it outside of China, makes all your posturing very funny.