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WTF?why stop supporting Windows 7?
I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever
最後修改者:😡 Duck 😡; 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 2:48
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Deathraven13 2023 年 8 月 25 日 上午 9:00 
引用自 Zef
Lies.

If you're in a developing country you aren't buying your games anyhow, only cracked games and a lot of torrenting.

You are wrong about this, no doubt is even possible.But what you've said doesn't even affect what they have said: "for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware ", so you are wrong and missed their point..... pay more attention next time.

Not every game cost 70$ btw and there are free to play games, sometimes you have games that become free to download (and keep) during a certain time.
miakisfan 2023 年 8 月 25 日 上午 9:36 
I remember thinking this when they discontinued Windows XP, then I realized that progress happens. What happens when progress is made and I don't keep up with it? I fall behind.

Oh, and obviously when they said they weren't going to keep up with security updates didn't help either. Security tends to be a good thing.

I understand that change is scary for some but you eventually have to face it.

BTW I'm starting to wonder if people ever fully read the conditions they accept when they get stuff that requires them. You may have valid reasons but at the end of the day you don't make the rules.

I have a great idea. Make your own OS that is impervious to attack that brings things like Steam to it then you can make the rules. Be prepared for those who complain about that, though. You can bet you'll be finding out what it is like wearing the other shoe is like very quickly.
Deathraven13 2023 年 8 月 25 日 上午 9:39 
引用自 miakisfan
I remember thinking this when they discontinued Windows XP, then I realized that progress happens. What happens when progress is made and I don't keep up with it? I fall behind.

Oh, and obviously when they said they weren't going to keep up with security updates didn't help either. Security tends to be a good thing.

I understand that change is scary for some but you eventually have to face it.

BTW I'm starting to wonder if people ever fully read the conditions they accept when they get stuff that requires them. You may have valid reasons but at the end of the day you don't make the rules.

I have a great idea. Make your own OS that is impervious to attack that brings things like Steam to it then you can make the rules. Be prepared for those who complain about that, though. You can bet you'll be finding out what it is like wearing the other shoe is like very quickly.

"Progress" lol.
RasaNova 2023 年 8 月 25 日 上午 11:31 
引用自 Deathraven13
引用自 miakisfan
I remember thinking this when they discontinued Windows XP, then I realized that progress happens. What happens when progress is made and I don't keep up with it? I fall behind.

Oh, and obviously when they said they weren't going to keep up with security updates didn't help either. Security tends to be a good thing.

I understand that change is scary for some but you eventually have to face it.

BTW I'm starting to wonder if people ever fully read the conditions they accept when they get stuff that requires them. You may have valid reasons but at the end of the day you don't make the rules.

I have a great idea. Make your own OS that is impervious to attack that brings things like Steam to it then you can make the rules. Be prepared for those who complain about that, though. You can bet you'll be finding out what it is like wearing the other shoe is like very quickly.

"Progress" lol.
Ok, instead of progress - Change.
KalGimpa 2023 年 8 月 25 日 上午 11:44 
引用自 bidulless
引用自 ImperatorPavel

September of 2024 is when Firefox on Windows 7 will stop receiving security updates. It already stopped receiving feature updates but will receive security ones until September of 2024.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support
Hello

Aye firefox allready stopped support for w7 in it current form and asked to switch to the esr one , esr that will support windows 7 till september.
So it's the date that some people targeted as a bad things , well it's not the end of the world as firefox won't stop working after this date

It's also funny because i am nearly sur that the same people talking about that are using chrome just because it's something that will fit better better with their kind of profil and they are not the kind of people that use firefox..

So if it's really that, it's just fearmonger arguments ...

Apparently Defender on 7 isn't a full antivirus program though - it's only Windows Defender Antivirus on 10 and 11. Only antispyware on 7.
It just test some area in scheduled time like registry change, and can scan program and better run another one capable of real time check.


no security updates for ff means no ad or script blocking addons

that is a big hell no for me
bidulless 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:03 
引用自 KalCuey
no security updates for ff means no ad or script blocking addons

that is a big hell no for me
Hello

What do you mean ? There is no need to be afraid by that, it' something different : script blocking , secutity update , etc ...
lailaamell 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 12:06 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 bidulless
Hello

Aye firefox allready stopped support for w7 in it current form and asked to switch to the esr one , esr that will support windows 7 till september.
So it's the date that some people targeted as a bad things , well it's not the end of the world as firefox won't stop working after this date

It's also funny because i am nearly sur that the same people talking about that are using chrome just because it's something that will fit better better with their kind of profil and they are not the kind of people that use firefox..

So if it's really that, it's just fearmonger arguments ...


It just test some area in scheduled time like registry change, and can scan program and better run another one capable of real time check.


no security updates for ff means no ad or script blocking addons

that is a big hell no for me
you dont need them you got win 7 according to the win 7 hold outs here unsupported means security
bidulless 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 lailaamell95
引用自 KalCuey


no security updates for ff means no ad or script blocking addons

that is a big hell no for me
you dont need them you got win 7 according to the win 7 hold outs here unsupported means security
Hello

It's always a pleasure to see you writting stuff here , always so funny xd
https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=mfJhMfOPWdE
KalGimpa 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:15 
引用自 bidulless
引用自 KalCuey
no security updates for ff means no ad or script blocking addons

that is a big hell no for me
Hello

What do you mean ? There is no need to be afraid by that, it' something different : script blocking , secutity update , etc ...


i do not go on the internet without ad blockers or script blockers

that was with 7 as well

anyone that uses 7 because they do not like 10/11 privacy issues is going to be doing the same
bidulless 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:22 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 bidulless
Hello

What do you mean ? There is no need to be afraid by that, it' something different : script blocking , secutity update , etc ...


i do not go on the internet without ad blockers or script blockers

that was with 7 as well

anyone that uses 7 because they do not like 10/11 privacy issues is going to be doing the same
Hello

Hell yeah but it's not link to firefox security upgrade.
Yes browser have usually they own blocking stuff relying on other part, i think it's still google for ff xd
So better use addon for script blocking like uo as you can use third party list or your own inside it.
And do not worry , addon won't stop working after september. I am still using ff not esr and everything is still working.
lailaamell 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 bidulless
Hello

What do you mean ? There is no need to be afraid by that, it' something different : script blocking , secutity update , etc ...


i do not go on the internet without ad blockers or script blockers

that was with 7 as well

anyone that uses 7 because they do not like 10/11 privacy issues is going to be doing the same
dont worry soon ads wont work on win 7 nativly for it wont have the codec to read them wich is better than any adblocker
bidulless 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:29 
引用自 lailaamell95
引用自 KalCuey


i do not go on the internet without ad blockers or script blockers

that was with 7 as well

anyone that uses 7 because they do not like 10/11 privacy issues is going to be doing the same
dont worry soon ads wont work on win 7 nativly for it wont have the codec to read them wich is better than any adblocker
Hello

lol , that's the crasiest thing i've seen here xd
Heu no, i remember some other crazy stuff and bs about that w7 is slowing the steam client évolution but this one is really good, surelly at the same level
Thanks for this good laugh, really thanks you
最後修改者:bidulless; 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:34
KalGimpa 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:45 

引用自 bidulless
引用自 KalCuey


i do not go on the internet without ad blockers or script blockers

that was with 7 as well

anyone that uses 7 because they do not like 10/11 privacy issues is going to be doing the same
Hello

Hell yeah but it's not link to firefox security upgrade.
Yes browser have usually they own blocking stuff relying on other part, i think it's still google for ff xd
So better use addon for script blocking like uo as you can use third party list or your own inside it.
And do not worry , addon won't stop working after september. I am still using ff not esr and everything is still working.


what are you on about?

when ff updates to the point that they stop supporting 7

the addons will too

ever tried using a script blocker that had not updated?

i have no intention of spending the time and effort to create my own lists to replace them

i am willing to bet that most people will not either

the idea of a simple dual boot seems to be too much for them

most of them will be on 10 or 11 by the end of this anyways

if history is to be believed
最後修改者:KalGimpa; 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:45
bidulless 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:47 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 bidulless
Hello

Hell yeah but it's not link to firefox security upgrade.
Yes browser have usually they own blocking stuff relying on other part, i think it's still google for ff xd
So better use addon for script blocking like uo as you can use third party list or your own inside it.
And do not worry , addon won't stop working after september. I am still using ff not esr and everything is still working.


what are you on about?

when ff updates to the point that they stop supporting 7

the addons will too

ever tried using a script blocker that had not updated?

i have no intention of spending the time and effort to create my own lists to replace them

i am willing to bet that most people will not either

the idea of a simple dual boot seems to be too much for them

most of them will be on 10 or 11 by the end of this anyways

if history is to be believed
Hello

Still on ff 105.3 why ? want a screenshot ?
https://i.postimg.cc/3NNbRDn3/1212-Capture.jpg
最後修改者:bidulless; 2023 年 8 月 25 日 下午 1:52
引用自 bidulless
Hello

Aye firefox allready stopped support for w7 in it current form and asked to switch to the esr one , esr that will support windows 7 till september.
So it's the date that some people targeted as a bad things , well it's not the end of the world as firefox won't stop working after this date
Yes Firefox will "still function" after September 2024 but without security updates you should not be using it any more. After Firefox stops updates it becomes a security risk. As others said: Ad blockers and script blockers will stop working, and then no security updates = no one should ever use firefox (or chrome is already stopped issuing updates for Windows 7 users too) after september 2024. Once Firefox stops issuing security updates then that is the end for windows 7 users. There will never be any web browser that can be used safely in Windows 7 ever again. There will never be any safe way to browse websites or browse the internet in Windows 7 ever again in time. So yes that is exactly the "Bad thing" everyone is talking about: No more safe web browsing in Windows 7 after September 2024.
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