WTF？why stop supporting Windows 7？

[😡 Duck 😡]

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mich-666:

People need to stop advocating forced Win7 support remove.

Literally half of their games have Win7 as minimum requirement.

So now we end in paradox situation when we have Win7 game but can't play it on Win7 (older laptops, legacy systems). And yes, that includes VMWare.

This change makes literally no sense from user-perspective. It only make sense for Google and Microsoft.

Ask yourself if a game listed for Windows xp, and not windows 7, why does it works for Windows 7? If you're able to figure out that much, then you already know what wrong with your post.

Here I make it easy for you, check specs page for this game, and ask yourself how were you able to play it because doesn't list Windows 7.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/48220/Might__Magic_Heroes_VI/

[xBCxRangers]

We are sticking with Win7, win, Lose or DRAW, Mr Newell

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av xBCxRangers:

We are sticking with Win7, win, Lose or DRAW, Mr Newell

Drawing a line in the sand really isn't wise, when you cannot control the outcome.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Ursprungligen skrivet av xBCxRangers:

We are sticking with Win7, win, Lose or DRAW, Mr Newell

Drawing a line in the sand really isn't wise, when you cannot control the outcome.

I'm of the conclusion, i'm losing all my old games. It doesn't mean i'm gonna buy a new computer to upgrade, to in effect downgrade to play games some 20 years old. That's delusional.

[bidulless]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Here I make it easy for you, check specs page for this game, and ask yourself how were you able to play it because doesn't list Windows 7.

Hello

Problem with the game you linked from a ♥♥♥♥♥ french company is that this bs company made most of it games with some server part like some sort of f2p game ...
Not sur you can even play it nowaday .. Most games from ubisoft should be avoided at all cost.

[KalGimpa]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mich-666:

People need to stop advocating forced Win7 support remove.

Literally half of their games have Win7 as minimum requirement.

So now we end in paradox situation when we have Win7 game but can't play it on Win7 (older laptops, legacy systems). And yes, that includes VMWare.

This change makes literally no sense from user-perspective. It only make sense for Google and Microsoft.

i know there are few that have advocated that

most have pretty much said that this just is what it is

it may suck

but nothing we say is going to change that

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mich-666:

People need to stop advocating forced Win7 support remove.

Literally half of their games have Win7 as minimum requirement.

So now we end in paradox situation when we have Win7 game but can't play it on Win7 (older laptops, legacy systems). And yes, that includes VMWare.

This change makes literally no sense from user-perspective. It only make sense for Google and Microsoft.

i know there are few that have advocated that

most have pretty much said that this just is what it is

it may suck

but nothing we say is going to change that

Maybe he can extend the deadline or something, and end Win 7 at the same time he ends Win 10. I mean i'm just gonna have to rebuy the games at GoG, but they're saying i may still be able to play these non DRM games post Jan.

All my hyperbole aside, many of us just don't know until it actually happens.

[ShuFlngPu]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 😡 Duck 😡:

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

Cuz windows 7 only supports 4GB of RAM and min sys req is 4 or 6, some games require 8 or 12 now.... Quite literally, supporting win 7 means you cant run alot of games on steam so why support it? Makes perfect sense really.

[RasaNova]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mich-666:

People need to stop advocating forced Win7 support remove.

Literally half of their games have Win7 as minimum requirement.

So now we end in paradox situation when we have Win7 game but can't play it on Win7 (older laptops, legacy systems). And yes, that includes VMWare.

This change makes literally no sense from user-perspective. It only make sense for Google and Microsoft.

Ask yourself if a game listed for Windows xp, and not windows 7, why does it works for Windows 7? If you're able to figure out that much, then you already know what wrong with your post.

Here I make it easy for you, check specs page for this game, and ask yourself how were you able to play it because doesn't list Windows 7.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/48220/Might__Magic_Heroes_VI/

Yep.
Here are some more 20+ year old games listing Win2000/XP as requirements, yet all run on Windows10.
Max Payne
Total Annihilation
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Secret of Monkey Island
Supreme Commander

Basically, it's up to the developer or publisher to update the system requirements. Not listing a newer OS does not mean they don't work on that newer OS, it just means the devs haven't updated. In many cases because they are no more, or simply haven't tweaked the game files if needed for modern systems. But in those cases the required tweaks are generally the same that would be needed to run in Windows 7.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av xBCxRangers:

Ursprungligen skrivet av C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Drawing a line in the sand really isn't wise, when you cannot control the outcome.

I'm of the conclusion, i'm losing all my old games. It doesn't mean i'm gonna buy a new computer to upgrade, to in effect downgrade to play games some 20 years old. That's delusional.

You're not losing anything and if the games aren't important enough to you to warrant an upgrade, then I fail to see what the problem is.

Ursprungligen skrivet av xBCxRangers:

Ursprungligen skrivet av KalCuey:

i know there are few that have advocated that

most have pretty much said that this just is what it is

it may suck

but nothing we say is going to change that

Maybe he can extend the deadline or something, and end Win 7 at the same time he ends Win 10. I mean i'm just gonna have to rebuy the games at GoG, but they're saying i may still be able to play these non DRM games post Jan.

All my hyperbole aside, many of us just don't know until it actually happens.

Why buy the games on GoG when you don't own them there either?

[AC Dosage]

Windows 7 supports all the gigabytes not just 4.

[xBCxRangers]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ShuFlngPu:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 😡 Duck 😡:

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

Cuz windows 7 only supports 4GB of RAM and min sys req is 4 or 6, some games require 8 or 12 now.... Quite literally, supporting win 7 means you cant run alot of games on steam so why support it? Makes perfect sense really.

The thing is, this goes on and on, in a very short period. Xp was just ended a few years ago, now it's 7 and 8, and in 2 years likely 10.

And so, i don't care how Valve wants to crunch these numbers, millions are being left behind that may be playing the older games. Given the millions, it may be worth Mr Newell looking into a Legacy Launcher.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av AC Dosage:

Windows 7 supports all the gigabytes not just 4.

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit 4GB

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit 16GB

Windows 7 Professional 32-Bit 4GB

Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit 192GB

[AC Dosage]

Like i said all the gigabytes, there are not that many motherboards still that would surpass all the gigabytes.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Ursprungligen skrivet av AC Dosage:

Like i said all the gigabytes, there are not that many motherboards still that would surpass all the gigabytes.

Not all...two versions only support 4GB.