WTF？why stop supporting Windows 7？

[😡 Duck 😡]

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

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Prove it.

Prove what?

First one was patched, some time ago and didn't affect all users.

Second one is due to DRM, SAfedisc/securerom that is easily fixed.

Third one, all the games complained about work on 10 and 11.

Fourth one a lot of those games work, like the Sponge Bob clone of Diner Dash 2, the others have an online check to servers that don't exist anymore, so wouldn't even work on Windows 7, XP Vista etc etc.

The bets are in, and possible answers are for reply:
- I don't like your answers so they're wrong.
- I don't want to make any possible effort so you're wrong.
- Reading hard so just gonna assume you're lying.
- My PC just works so my opinion is only what matters *stick fingers into ear* lalalalala can't hear you!!!!

I mean that all they been doing claiming for last 4 months making BS claims claiming can't run any old game beyond windows 7...

[D. Flame]

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Prove it.

Second one is due to DRM, SAfedisc/securerom that is easily fixed.

Please post a link showing a step by step on how to do so.

[Komarimaru]

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Prove what?

First one was patched, some time ago and didn't affect all users.

Second one is due to DRM, SAfedisc/securerom that is easily fixed.

Third one, all the games complained about work on 10 and 11.

Fourth one a lot of those games work, like the Sponge Bob clone of Diner Dash 2, the others have an online check to servers that don't exist anymore, so wouldn't even work on Windows 7, XP Vista etc etc.

It was patched when? And when their next update will break games again?

You know, these game owners are not opening questions on support for nothing. They have valid reasons. You are noboby to tell them they should "fix their games" on their W10/W11 computers that work just fine on their older systems. They want no more hassles when playing.

Also you are nobody to say which games "no one cares about", that's just pure arrogance.

You still haven't proved what games need an online check to run.

I'd say toss away games that barely sold and few knew existed, are indeed games few care about. There's a reason why they came and went quickly.

And every time someone has posted a game that works on Windows 7 and claims not on 10, we've proven time and time again it works on 10 and 11. At times games that wouldn't run on 7, actually do run on 10 and 11 due to the better compatibility options as well.

So to quote you...

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Deal with it.

[Komarimaru]

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Second one is due to DRM, SAfedisc/securerom that is easily fixed.

Please post a link showing a step by step on how to do so.

It's fairly simple really.

Just enable Legacy Components in Windows Features On/Off.

The rest is right here.
https://youtu.be/Hr3_OGD_AeQ

Not that hard really.

I'd not recommend a permanent setup with the driver signature enforcement, there's a reason why Microsoft removed that file from the core system, due to the many malware that snuck in through back doors using it.

[D. Flame]

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Please post a link showing a step by step on how to do so.

It's fairly simple really.

Just enable Legacy Components in Windows Features On/Off.

The rest is right here.
https://youtu.be/Hr3_OGD_AeQ

Not that hard really.

I'd not recommend a permanent setup with the driver signature enforcement, there's a reason why Microsoft removed that file from the core system, due to the many malware that snuck in through back doors using it.

According to that video it is "not supported". He literally had to go into windows 7 and pull a file out and transfer it to Windows 10 then disable security on every boot just to play it, precisely because the file REQUIRED to play it does NOT exist in Win10 by default.

Finding a work around (which is what this is) is not the same as being supported by the operating system itself.

[Komarimaru]

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It's fairly simple really.

Just enable Legacy Components in Windows Features On/Off.

The rest is right here.
https://youtu.be/Hr3_OGD_AeQ

Not that hard really.

I'd not recommend a permanent setup with the driver signature enforcement, there's a reason why Microsoft removed that file from the core system, due to the many malware that snuck in through back doors using it.

According to that video it is "not supported". He literally had to go into windows 7 and pull a file out and transfer it to Windows 10 then disable security on every boot just to play it, precisely because the file REQUIRED to play it does NOT exist in Win10 by default.

Finding a work around (which is what this is) is not the same as being supported by the operating system itself.

I said it was easily fixed. It's not my fault you've a reading comprehension issue.

All it's doing it making it as insecure as Windows 7. Isn't that what you want?

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

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It was patched when? And when their next update will break games again?

You know, these game owners are not opening questions on support for nothing. They have valid reasons. You are noboby to tell them they should "fix their games" on their W10/W11 computers that work just fine on their older systems. They want no more hassles when playing.

Also you are nobody to say which games "no one cares about", that's just pure arrogance.

You still haven't proved what games need an online check to run.

I'd say toss away games that barely sold and few knew existed, are indeed games few care about. There's a reason why they came and went quickly.

And every time someone has posted a game that works on Windows 7 and claims not on 10, we've proven time and time again it works on 10 and 11. At times games that wouldn't run on 7, actually do run on 10 and 11 due to the better compatibility options as well.

So to quote you...

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cuchillo_Baishan:

Deal with it.

Sure. Can you run Wolfenstein 2009 on your W11 system? Last time I checked, a user was reporting that he could not.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/10170/discussions/0/3824159062930742993/

[Komarimaru]

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I'd say toss away games that barely sold and few knew existed, are indeed games few care about. There's a reason why they came and went quickly.

And every time someone has posted a game that works on Windows 7 and claims not on 10, we've proven time and time again it works on 10 and 11. At times games that wouldn't run on 7, actually do run on 10 and 11 due to the better compatibility options as well.

So to quote you...

Sure. Can you run Wolfenstein 2009 on your W11 system? Last time I checked, a user was reporting that he could not.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/10170/discussions/0/3824159062930742993/

Indeed it can. Since they bought the store version, that means it's the Games for Windows Live version. Easily fixed. Gives the same issue for Windows 7, since no more Games for Windows Live service.

Nice try though.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

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Sure. Can you run Wolfenstein 2009 on your W11 system? Last time I checked, a user was reporting that he could not.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/10170/discussions/0/3824159062930742993/

Indeed it can. Since they bought the store version, that means it's the Games for Windows Live version. Easily fixed. Gives the same issue for Windows 7, since no more Games for Windows Live service.

Nice try though.

No, he doesn't mention anything at all about GFWL, nice try though.

[D. Flame]

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According to that video it is "not supported". He literally had to go into windows 7 and pull a file out and transfer it to Windows 10 then disable security on every boot just to play it, precisely because the file REQUIRED to play it does NOT exist in Win10 by default.

Finding a work around (which is what this is) is not the same as being supported by the operating system itself.

I said it was easily fixed. It's not my fault you've a reading comprehension issue.

All it's doing it making it as insecure as Windows 7. Isn't that what you want?

That's not "easily." It is also a work around, rather than support. Personal attacks will not change this.

[Komarimaru]

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Indeed it can. Since they bought the store version, that means it's the Games for Windows Live version. Easily fixed. Gives the same issue for Windows 7, since no more Games for Windows Live service.

Nice try though.

No, he doesn't mention anything at all about GFWL, nice try though.

There's only two versions for PC. Steam version, that was pulled from the Store. And the Games for Windows Live version.

So yes, if they have a legit real copy, it's the Games for Windows Live version, like mine.

[Boblin the Goblin]

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I'd say toss away games that barely sold and few knew existed, are indeed games few care about. There's a reason why they came and went quickly.

And every time someone has posted a game that works on Windows 7 and claims not on 10, we've proven time and time again it works on 10 and 11. At times games that wouldn't run on 7, actually do run on 10 and 11 due to the better compatibility options as well.

So to quote you...

Sure. Can you run Wolfenstein 2009 on your W11 system? Last time I checked, a user was reporting that he could not.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/10170/discussions/0/3824159062930742993/

I literally posted a link to a thread where multiple people stated they could run it.

[Komarimaru]

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I said it was easily fixed. It's not my fault you've a reading comprehension issue.

All it's doing it making it as insecure as Windows 7. Isn't that what you want?

That's not "easily." It is also a work around, rather than support. Personal attacks will not change this.

Personal attacks? Where? It's a really simple fix. If people want their Windows 10 to be as insecure as 7, I just showed how. That simple, isn't it?

[Boblin the Goblin]

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No, he doesn't mention anything at all about GFWL, nice try though.

There's only two versions for PC. Steam version, that was pulled from the Store. And the Games for Windows Live version.

So yes, if they have a legit real copy, it's the Games for Windows Live version, like mine.

He knows, I posted a Reddit thread of multiple people saying they could for the physical copy.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

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Sure. Can you run Wolfenstein 2009 on your W11 system? Last time I checked, a user was reporting that he could not.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/10170/discussions/0/3824159062930742993/

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Indeed it can. Since they bought the store version, that means it's the Games for Windows Live version. Easily fixed. Gives the same issue for Windows 7, since no more Games for Windows Live service.

Nice try though.

No, he doesn't mention anything at all about GFWL, nice try though.

Reading must be hard, because OP only said having installing issue from disk, not running the game issue... FYI if the rely on using GFWL to run, you have to install the latest version of GFWL, if you install outdated version you have to uninstall it, and install latest version as the updater for GFWL are broken which why they can't update to latest version of GFWL, you can still get game updates via GFWL btw.