WTF？why stop supporting Windows 7？

[😡 Duck 😡]

I have many valid reasons for not wanting to upgrade to Win10.

For example, I have too many applications and games installed, it seems to be over 300~500, and if I were to upgrade to WIN10, there are too many programs that would need to be downloaded and installed, registered and configured again, which is quite a hassle and could take days.

And with my hardware running fine on WIN7 and games, there is no need to upgrade.

I have tried installing WIN10 as a second boot system and trying to use it, but it doesn't seem to fit my hardware, there is a noticeable reduction in performance on the same configuration, and I just play games, I don't need to upgrade for the sake of so-called security.

Forcing an upgrade would be like STEAM interrupting my game service, which is actually a violation of player rights, Keep at least one version for Win7 players that will be available for a long time and will not be upgraded, even if there is only a basic function to launch the game.

when I choose to continue using an outdated system it naturally means I can be held responsible for my choices, such as if the system is hacked or running a ransomware virus.

I don't know why, but there are quite a few people in the comments asking us to upgrade our systems in the name of caring about the security of our systems. Seriously, we don't care if our systems are secure enough, We just want to come home after a busy day and run STEAM to play our favourite games and get a bit of relaxation, that's all.

Maybe I have another reason, not every player is in a developed country, for developing countries it costs more extra money to upgrade computers and hardware (I know some people will say that upgrading win10 is free, but what about hardware? In fact the hardware of win7 has a performance reduction on win10), so why can no one understand that?

I saw that someone submitted feedback to STEAM customer service about this, and the official response was for players to come to this forum and voice their position, so maybe that's a good sign.

We need more support, so make your voice heard, please.

Sorry, my English is not good, so I use a DeepL translation tool to communicate.


Windows 7/8/8.1 Steam Survival Kit:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237

[SOLUTION] To Revert To Old UI:
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/6516193260168294059/

Windows 7 Forever, Update Never Group:
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/Windows7ForeverUpdateNever

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-gaming-issues/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/ultimate-spider-man-windows-11/88bcdd7c-ee90-4443-8db4-107da1017292

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsHelp/comments/qjzj0l/windows_11_not_compatible_with_some_gamesprograms/

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

The first is an update issue from 9 months ago that has since been fixed and never went to the main branch anyway.

The second one is full of fixes that resolve the issue (it’s a problem with old DRM that can be easily fixed).

The third contains a list of fixes too and OP confirms that they work. It’s also from 2 years ago when the OS had just launched.

The final one says that they are either incompatible OR not optimal on 10/11. They have a list of troubleshooting techniques to get those games running. Several games on there are also defunct online only games or flash games, so no wonder they don’t work, lol.

Read your own links.

[I_love_the_APBT]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-gaming-issues/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/ultimate-spider-man-windows-11/88bcdd7c-ee90-4443-8db4-107da1017292

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsHelp/comments/qjzj0l/windows_11_not_compatible_with_some_gamesprograms/

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

Thank you for a truthful and helpful post. But what do we tin foil hat wearers know?

[Bee🐝]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-gaming-issues/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/ultimate-spider-man-windows-11/88bcdd7c-ee90-4443-8db4-107da1017292

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsHelp/comments/qjzj0l/windows_11_not_compatible_with_some_gamesprograms/

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

You might one to check the dates on some of those...we've had some updates since then.

As for the last one, you should check what those games actually are, it might give you a hint on why they don't run. It is always a good idea not just to click on the first link in Google.

Oh, and it seems people have found ways to get that Spider-Man game to run. Note, that's not one of the current Sony games.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

Slav Mcgopnik eredeti hozzászólása:

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-gaming-issues/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/ultimate-spider-man-windows-11/88bcdd7c-ee90-4443-8db4-107da1017292

https://www.reddit.com/r/WindowsHelp/comments/qjzj0l/windows_11_not_compatible_with_some_gamesprograms/

https://support.gamehouse.com/hc/en-us/articles/217219267-Windows-10-and-11-incompatible-games

The first is an update issue from 9 months ago that has since been fixed and never went to the main branch anyway.

The second one is full of fixes that resolve the issue (it’s a problem with old DRM that can be easily fixed).

The third contains a list of fixes too and OP confirms that they work. It’s also from 2 years ago when the OS had just launched.

The final one says that they are either incompatible OR not optimal on 10/11. They have a list of troubleshooting techniques to get those games running. Several games on there are also defunct online only games, so no wonder they don’t work, lol.

Read your own links.

You wanted example, you have examples. Deal with it.

What you say is one thing, another will be trying to convince users that "just need some fixes, bro", and wasting time on it, if they eventually don't manage to run them at all.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Slav Mcgopnik eredeti hozzászólása:

Read your own links.

If they could read they be really upset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03mL-2TMSe4

But yeah, they don't even try reading anything, we had to summarize things just so they can understand.

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Slav Mcgopnik eredeti hozzászólása:

The first is an update issue from 9 months ago that has since been fixed and never went to the main branch anyway.

The second one is full of fixes that resolve the issue (it’s a problem with old DRM that can be easily fixed).

The third contains a list of fixes too and OP confirms that they work. It’s also from 2 years ago when the OS had just launched.

The final one says that they are either incompatible OR not optimal on 10/11. They have a list of troubleshooting techniques to get those games running. Several games on there are also defunct online only games, so no wonder they don’t work, lol.

Read your own links.

You wanted example, you have examples. Deal with it.

What you say is one thing, another will be trying to convince users that "just need some fixes, bro", and wasting time on it, if they eventually don't manage to run them at all.

My problem is your examples are pretty poor.

2 of them are outdated, 1 is a problem with the platform and shutdowns rather than the OS, and the one that is arguably valid is a problem with DRM, not the OS itself.

This also isn’t new, I’ve had to screw around with games since I was using XP to get them to run right, this is an inherent problem with certain older games.

Also, the spider man game you mentioned doesn’t run right on 7 either, it only works properly on XP or older. So you’d need said fixes to run it on 7 anyway (and it’s not on steam).

[Komarimaru]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Slav Mcgopnik eredeti hozzászólása:

The first is an update issue from 9 months ago that has since been fixed and never went to the main branch anyway.

The second one is full of fixes that resolve the issue (it’s a problem with old DRM that can be easily fixed).

The third contains a list of fixes too and OP confirms that they work. It’s also from 2 years ago when the OS had just launched.

The final one says that they are either incompatible OR not optimal on 10/11. They have a list of troubleshooting techniques to get those games running. Several games on there are also defunct online only games, so no wonder they don’t work, lol.

Read your own links.

You wanted example, you have examples. Deal with it.

What you say is one thing, another will be trying to convince users that "just need some fixes, bro", and wasting time on it, if they eventually don't manage to run them at all.

Windows 7 is losing support on Steam Jan 2024, Deal with it.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

Komarimaru eredeti hozzászólása:

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

You wanted example, you have examples. Deal with it.

What you say is one thing, another will be trying to convince users that "just need some fixes, bro", and wasting time on it, if they eventually don't manage to run them at all.

Windows 7 is losing support on Steam Jan 2024, Deal with it.

Oh yeah, I will. In the meanwhile, try not to bs us too much, would you?

[Komarimaru]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Komarimaru eredeti hozzászólása:

Windows 7 is losing support on Steam Jan 2024, Deal with it.

Oh yeah, I will. In the meanwhile, try not to bs us too much, would you?

I'm not, you are. The links you posted were laughable and out dated. Especially the last one, of games that are online games, or ones no ones heard of or cares about.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

Komarimaru eredeti hozzászólása:

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh yeah, I will. In the meanwhile, try not to bs us too much, would you?

I'm not, you are. The links you posted were laughable and out dated. Especially the last one, of games that are online games, or ones no ones heard of or cares about.

Prove it.

[Slav Mcgopnik]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Komarimaru eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not, you are. The links you posted were laughable and out dated. Especially the last one, of games that are online games, or ones no ones heard of or cares about.

Prove it.

We have been

Your refusal to listen does not negate our posts.

[Komarimaru]

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Komarimaru eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not, you are. The links you posted were laughable and out dated. Especially the last one, of games that are online games, or ones no ones heard of or cares about.

Prove it.

Prove what?

First one was patched, some time ago and didn't affect all users.

Second one is due to DRM, SAfedisc/securerom that is easily fixed.

Third one, all the games complained about work on 10 and 11.

Fourth one a lot of those games work, like the Sponge Bob clone of Diner Dash 2, the others have an online check to servers that don't exist anymore, so wouldn't even work on Windows 7, XP Vista etc etc.

[I_love_the_APBT]

Here is something to care about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i0Ho-x7s_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdpNsd5GKX8 and the EU is trying to kill open source too.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

RasaNova eredeti hozzászólása:

JarlFrank eredeti hozzászólása:

You can still use the old PS3 and play games on it.

Yes, as long as you're playing old PS3 games on that old PS3. Couldn't you say the same for Steam? Don't let it update, and you could keep playing games on Win7, you just don't get new stuff or online play.

This might be a dumb question but can you play ps3 games on a ps4 or ps5? And if yes, does multiplayer work across the versions?

No, the whole point of these discussions is that you CAN'T keep playing games on Windows 7.

You mean offline mode? The offline mode is not certain to work indefinitely, and was not designed for this use case.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

Komarimaru eredeti hozzászólása:

Cuchillo_Baishan eredeti hozzászólása:

Prove it.

Prove what?

First one was patched, some time ago and didn't affect all users.

Second one is due to DRM, SAfedisc/securerom that is easily fixed.

Third one, all the games complained about work on 10 and 11.

Fourth one a lot of those games work, like the Sponge Bob clone of Diner Dash 2, the others have an online check to servers that don't exist anymore, so wouldn't even work on Windows 7, XP Vista etc etc.

It was patched when? And when their next update will break games again?

You know, these game owners are not opening questions on support for nothing. They have valid reasons. You are noboby to tell them they should "fix their games" on their W10/W11 computers that work just fine on their older systems. They want no more hassles when playing.

Also you are nobody to say which games "no one cares about", that's just pure arrogance.

You still haven't proved what games need an online check to run.