Wahooka 2023 年 3 月 27 日 下午 11:16
Can I still run my games after Jan 1st, 2024?
Steam just announced that the Steam Client will no longer run on windows 7 beginning on Jan 1st, 2024.

Problem is, I already have all my games on this computer which runs Window 7, and I am not able to upgrade right now for a lot of reasons.

Is Steam going to make it impossible for me to run my games anymore once this switch happens?
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MonkehMaster 2023 年 10 月 29 日 下午 9:11 
引用自 Heraclius Caesar
yes many options to continue using steam in 2024

1. win10
2. win11
3. win12
4. linux mint
5. linux ubuntu
6. linux arch
7. linux mx
8. many other linux distros
9. mac osx (whatever the current version is)

I would also add the Steam Deck to this list (although you sort of covered it with #8), I genuinely think it could be a viable option for those diehard Windows 7 cats who truly have no intention of updating the OS on their PC.

why would only people who like win 7 use the new steamOS?

but also, updating or fresh install of win 10/11/12, linux, steamOS, ect.... is all the same, so if they are actually "diehard" win 7 users, then they likely wont change from win 7.

that being said, i have my fully updated win 7 pro install, along with a fully updated win 11 pro install on my main pc, but i wouldnt mind trying the new steamOS, when ever they decide its ready (dont want to try other random internet versions of the new steamOS), on my main pc or any of the various old/older laptops/desktops to see how they run and game.
最后由 MonkehMaster 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 29 日 下午 9:14
Minuit 2023 年 10 月 30 日 上午 5:42 
引用自 ImperatorPavel
引用自 Hobbit XIII

I got it here too and on PS3. So many games so not enough time.

My problem is mods. No way to find out what mods I used for my (unfinished) New Vegas playthrough (Except New Vegas Anti-Crash). Save files still exist on Steam Cloud and I could easily reinstall the game, but I'd have to figure out what mods I used.

Granted I'm on win10 so continued access to Steam (for the moment) is not an issue. Merely a question of putting forth the effort.

Mod managers like Vortex, even NMM before that, allow you to save the list of mods you are using. I tell you this cause I also lost my Skyrim mods like that some time ago. Copy the list and send the file on your mail and you won't lose any mods list anymore.

Plus, your New Vegas mods may not be lost: did you use Nexus site? Cause all your download history is still there if you remember your old account.
bidulless 2023 年 10 月 30 日 上午 6:27 
引用自 Wahooka
Steam just announced that the Steam Client will no longer run on windows 7 beginning on Jan 1st, 2024.

Problem is, I already have all my games on this computer which runs Window 7, and I am not able to upgrade right now for a lot of reasons.

Is Steam going to make it impossible for me to run my games anymore once this switch happens?
Hello

I think this point have allready been discussed in some closed thread about the end of support of windows 7/8.
To sumurise you ,here what we know ;

- as soon as steam will use cef v109+ it won't work anymore on windows 7.
Here i see many possibilities and effects.i will try to give you a clearly view of them.
If the client have the possibility by itself during the update process to not update itself when windows 7/8 is detected so you will be more or less safe for a certain time,how long no clue and no one here knows the correct answer and that with the condition that logging with your windows 7/8 under your account is still allowed for those os..
If the client will update and make it unusable under windows 7/8 then it's game over because you have on your hdd a steam client that can't be run on windows 7/8.And downloading a new steamsetup.exe won't change anything because it's just a nis installer wilth the steamservice and the bootstrapp that will download the last client available on the cdn.
To counter that ,you have some option :
Making a steam.cfg that will forbid steam to apply on itself any new update but it still need to be allowed to connect to your steam account using your client under windows 7/8.
It's not perfect because with time , some client part will cease working as the new functions will be used under the new steam client.
A guide that allready cover those part exist ( steam.cfg and how to download an old steam release )

-as soon as steam decide to revoque windows 7/8 log in account.
Yes steam know exactly on what os is running it client and it's easy to just use a script on the backend side to disallow all windows 7/8 to log in on their steam account even if the steam client does not use cef v109+
So here there is no other possibility than upgrading to a system allowed to log in to your steam account ( linux, w11,w12 ) or putting your steam on offline mode ,after that and only game locally on your hdd will work.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2967855237
最后由 bidulless 编辑于; 2023 年 10 月 30 日 上午 6:47
Drunk Monkey 2023 年 10 月 30 日 下午 10:26 
For those saying upgrading to Win 10, when I was taking networking/OS classes Win 10 was stated to be a "Operating System as a service" and would only receive upgrades and never have to be transferred to a new OS. That didn't turn out to be true. I think only for Linux can you upgrade it and not need a new OS.
lsdninja 2023 年 10 月 30 日 下午 10:47 
引用自 Drunk Monkey
I think only for Linux can you upgrade it and not need a new OS.

This does vary from distro to distro. One of the reasons I quit using elementaryOS was because of the lack of an officially supported in-place upgrade mechanism. There’s also the thorny issue of some of the absolute worst distros (Arch, Debian, Gentoo, etc) being the best at this one thing…
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 30 日 下午 11:10 
引用自 Drunk Monkey
For those saying upgrading to Win 10, when I was taking networking/OS classes Win 10 was stated to be a "Operating System as a service" and would only receive upgrades and never have to be transferred to a new OS. That didn't turn out to be true. I think only for Linux can you upgrade it and not need a new OS.
I feel bad for who taught you, since that was never claimed for Windows 10, or that Windows 10 would be the last version.

Hope ya didn't pay a lot for those courses.

Linux though also depreciates it's older versions with newer revisions, quite a lot actually.
Heraclius Caesar 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 12:24 
引用自 MonkehMaster
引用自 Heraclius Caesar

I would also add the Steam Deck to this list (although you sort of covered it with #8), I genuinely think it could be a viable option for those diehard Windows 7 cats who truly have no intention of updating the OS on their PC.

why would only people who like win 7 use the new steamOS?

So they don't have to worry about migrating away from Windows 7 on their PC and can continue to access and play their Steam games?
RasaNova 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 3:07 
引用自 Drunk Monkey
For those saying upgrading to Win 10, when I was taking networking/OS classes Win 10 was stated to be a "Operating System as a service" and would only receive upgrades and never have to be transferred to a new OS. That didn't turn out to be true. I think only for Linux can you upgrade it and not need a new OS.
Yeah, sounds like your instructors got their training by reading online clickbait. Microsoft never made any official statement to that effect. It was mentioned once in 2015 at a tech conference for developers that 10 would be "the last version" after which MS clarified that "we aren't speaking to future branding"

Which isn't to say they won't try to do a subscription model at some point... They might, but hopefully when they do there will be more/better alternatives.
Crashed 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 9:05 
引用自 Komarimaru
引用自 Drunk Monkey
For those saying upgrading to Win 10, when I was taking networking/OS classes Win 10 was stated to be a "Operating System as a service" and would only receive upgrades and never have to be transferred to a new OS. That didn't turn out to be true. I think only for Linux can you upgrade it and not need a new OS.
I feel bad for who taught you, since that was never claimed for Windows 10, or that Windows 10 would be the last version.

Hope ya didn't pay a lot for those courses.

Linux though also depreciates it's older versions with newer revisions, quite a lot actually.
Someone took a statement by a Microsoft employee out of context. Further product releases weren't yet in the pipeline but ended up becoming a necessity as the feature pipeline outgrew the scope of the Windows 10 product line.
JarlFrank 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 10:27 
A necessity, huh?

I don't even see Windows 10 as a necessity. Win 7 already was a 64 bit system. What did they add in Win 10 that makes it a genuinely better OS? It's all just bloat and spyware, nothing that actually makes your system operate better.
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 10:47 
引用自 JarlFrank
A necessity, huh?

I don't even see Windows 10 as a necessity. Win 7 already was a 64 bit system. What did they add in Win 10 that makes it a genuinely better OS? It's all just bloat and spyware, nothing that actually makes your system operate better.
Oh, I dunno. Better thread handling, better hardware management, supporting newer hardware until recently with Intel 12/13 series and above that needs Windows 11...

I mean, the list is actually quite vast on why 10 and 11 are superior. Actual facts instead of conspiracy posts like yours.

Fun fact though, Windows 7 was hated as the most bloated Windows to ever exist when it launched. And it was, massive compared to XP since most missed Vista due to the higher requirements. Oh, another fun fact, Windows 7 is just Vista SP3 at launch.

Take what you will from facts, prefer them over such silly claims such as yours though.
Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 10:48 
引用自 Komarimaru
引用自 JarlFrank
A necessity, huh?

I don't even see Windows 10 as a necessity. Win 7 already was a 64 bit system. What did they add in Win 10 that makes it a genuinely better OS? It's all just bloat and spyware, nothing that actually makes your system operate better.
Oh, I dunno. Better thread handling, better hardware management, supporting newer hardware until recently with Intel 12/13 series and above that needs Windows 11...

I mean, the list is actually quite vast on why 10 and 11 are superior. Actual facts instead of conspiracy posts like yours.

Fun fact though, Windows 7 was hated as the most bloated Windows to ever exist when it launched. And it was, massive compared to XP since most missed Vista due to the higher requirements. Oh, another fun fact, Windows 7 is just Vista SP3 at launch.

Take what you will from facts, prefer them over such silly claims such as yours though.


You forgot to mention a big one for gaming specifically, DX12/Vulkan support.
Komarimaru 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 10:50 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 Komarimaru
Oh, I dunno. Better thread handling, better hardware management, supporting newer hardware until recently with Intel 12/13 series and above that needs Windows 11...

I mean, the list is actually quite vast on why 10 and 11 are superior. Actual facts instead of conspiracy posts like yours.

Fun fact though, Windows 7 was hated as the most bloated Windows to ever exist when it launched. And it was, massive compared to XP since most missed Vista due to the higher requirements. Oh, another fun fact, Windows 7 is just Vista SP3 at launch.

Take what you will from facts, prefer them over such silly claims such as yours though.


You forgot to mention a big one for gaming specifically, DX12/Vulkan support.
Well, Vulkan will work on 7, just not the latest fully functional iteration of Vulkan.
Sol87 2023 年 10 月 31 日 下午 12:27 
Ive been gaming on Linux exclusively for 5+ years, the last few years its extraordinarily rare i come across a game that just wont work, i cannot even remember the last one that didnt work for me.

Every single new release this year and last year has worked the day of or within like 3 days release. Including every big N title i backup to play on PC. Everything just works with Proton-GE.

The ONLY thing is that VR support gets borked every once and awhile for linux.

Ubuntu LTS is the easiest and most stable to use and works perfect for gaming but its not the absolute best for gaming, the best right now would be KDE Manjaro(easy, less stable) or Arch(too hard for newcomers).

You need one of the latter 2 for the most latest libraries for VR support.
Sol87 2023 年 10 月 31 日 下午 12:34 
If you NEED windows for something you can keep a vm with the free trial version of windows 11, and use GPU pass-through for the 3 games that go out of their way to really block linux.
Fortnite, R6 seige, and warzone. Idk that they still do but idc to play them anyways.

Use protondb.com to see how your favorite games are working on linux/steamdeck
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